What are mormons?
By missak
@missak (3311)
Spain
8 responses
@oldiebut (859)
• Canada
28 Apr 07
The quick and dirty definition of mormons...
Yes they are a Christian sect founded by a man named Joseph Smith who claimed to have found another testament of Christ in North America. They believe in Jesus as their saviour and most of the normal protestant symbolism. They do not recognize the pope.
The differences are difficult to sum up since there are several sects within the sect. In the more fundamental sects, bigamy is a common practice as well as marriage of older men to very young girls. Other beliefs include tithing (10% of your earnings go to church), abstention from certain products/chemicals that go as far as coffee and chocolate.
Their hierarchy is somewhat secret but that is common to all religions, and is related to power more than theology. Skeptics would point out that Joseph Smith's claims appear highly dubious when viewed at arm's length, and there is no supporting evidence. The religion is largely based on his word alone.
They have experienced steady growth since settling in Colorado as their base but have been rocked by scandals ranging from the bigamy issue to problems with forged documents.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
28 Apr 07
The originally settled in Utah actually.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
28 Apr 07
HaHa It's ok. I had to think about it for a second too. I've never been farther west than Ohio so all those western states sort of blend together for me!
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
28 Apr 07
They are a "modern" Christian group founded in the 1800's by Joseph Smith. They believe the are the "true Christians" and are trying to return the Christian church to it's original intent. There are many myths and half truths floating around about what it means to be a Mormon (Latter Day Saint). I urge you to go to their site www.lds.org to find out the truth.
They are NOT secret but often are persecuted and ridiculed for their beliefs, "private" would be a better word than "secret". They are similar to other Christian denominations in the sense that they follow the Bible how ever they have a 3rd volume, called The Book of Mormon, in addition to the Old Testament and the New Testament. They do have "rules" in addition to standard Christian rules but I'd rather refer you to their site than chance misquoting them here.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
28 Apr 07
The OP wanted to know what Mormons are. I still think the best way to find out is by going directly to them rather than to other sites that may be biased against them.
Yes, other religions get persecuted too, I didn't mean to sound as if the were the only ones. I was just trying to make the point that many people are Mormon or wish to become Mormon but keep it a "secret" because of the problems that come with being open about it. Sorry I didn't come across right!
Lots of "groups" haven't been represented in Presidential elections or at least seldom represented. The fact that he is running doesn't prove the acceptance of Mormonism, it just shows that our country is continuing to move away from the WASP-male mentality.
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@oldiebut (859)
• Canada
29 Apr 07
Really. Please name a significant Muslim, Agnostic, Buddhist, Sikh, or Buddhist candidate. The total is none. Mormons are part of the wasp group so they hardly represent any advance in breaking that hold. The US has managed to elect one non-protestant (Kennedy-Catholic) in the last 150 years (not taking into account the original founding fathers who were mainly deists). I certainly agree that there are religions persecuted, I simply find no evidence of any Christian group being the victim, no matter how often they claim it.
As for asking them for the truth about themselves. If you wish to find the truth about the Aryan Nations, would you ask them? How about scientology? Satanism? You would send them to the source that has the greatest bias of all.
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@oldiebut (859)
• Canada
28 Apr 07
Or you could refer to any one of several educational and news sites. Getting the truth about them, from them, obviously is a bit of a dicey proposition.
As for them being persecuted, I would have to point out that this is claimed by pretty much every christian sect, and rarely proves to be substantial. As an example, there is a presidential candidate and governor (not of Utah) who is morman, how many truly persecuted religions can claim as much?
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@smuggeridge (2148)
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11 May 07
They scare me whoever they are. I know as much as they are christian although not catholic so don't recognise the pope. They follow the bible very literally but have some weird ideas. Modern technology seems to be frowned upon.
A friend of mine is a member of the mormon church although he didn't really talk about it much but it always seemed fairly normal, although he seemed to follow the bible very closely (much more so literally than other religious friends i have). Almost two years ago he told us that he was going to do some charity work for a year with his church in Scotland and we haven't seen him since.
We e-mailed him and sent him texts to begin with but never got a reply, when we went round to his mums she informed us that he isn't allowed a mobile phone or computer and we had to write to him. We also asked if he would be back for christmas and she informed us that he isn't allowed to see anyone for the whole year (not even his family). We did finally send a letter and a couple of weeks later got a reply back saying "the contents of your letter contained details we felt were unsuitable and as such were unable to pass onto James" (very odd because all we talked about was what we had been doing at uni etc) we finally got a reply but it was very brief and said just "hello, i am very well and really enjoying it here". That is the only time we have heard from him.
So what they do i am not sure but it doesn't seem normal and we worry about him, expect that when (or if) he finally returns he will have been brainwashed and we wont recognise him (i hope thats not the case).
I should mention that i believe there a multiple different groups of mormons so they may not all be the same.
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@Lydia1901 (16351)
• United States
1 May 07
I do not know much about mormons except that they are some sort of religion people or something like that.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
29 Apr 07
This may not be the best answer to your question because it is somewhat biased. Christopher Hitchends has recently written on the Mormons and as usual he pulls no punches. I was going to use this in a post but since it answers , in a way, your question I will post it here.
http://tinyurl.com/27dm2u
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
30 Apr 07
thank you for link, I wanted to respond to this discussion, buy it is all in this article...and I think it is very acurate...I saw documentary about mormons on TV not long time ago..
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
30 Apr 07
I would first like to make the point that I have not done any name calling. All I did was post a link to a very well regarded commentator who was expressing his views. That fact that his views hurt your feelings is not really very relevant. He is expressing his views and supports them with facts. His vantage point is from outside the Mormon Religion and I must assume that yours is from within. You must realize that his view is not unique. If you have facts, that you can support with documentation that comes from a source outside of the Mormon religion, that calls his statements into question, please share them with us.
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@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
2 May 07
If some one was committed to a religion that practised cannibalism, would you put more faith in their opinion of their religion, or would you rather consider the opinion of others outside that religion. I know that this is a rather extreme example but the point I am making is that someone committed by faith to a belief may not be the best source of information on that belief. Sometimes it takes an outside observer to see the truth. As far as I know, Christopher Hitchends has no real reason to persecute Mormons. He is a well regarded commentator and is well known for the quality of reserch he does before he writes an article. He may or may not be right in this case but I think his opinion deserves a fair hearing. I have yet to see anything that refutes what he says. I have seen some accusation's but no facts.
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@silverlocket (122)
• United States
4 May 07
Wow, certainly people can be bias when it comes to religion.. Dont you just love that ? =P Well lets see, Mormons have been attacked & criticized, what religion hasnt ? They have their own claims and believes - And as my friend Missak and I were discussing, being a part of the Christian enviorenment this "sect" has a few similiraties with Opus Dei .. but also has some HUGE counterarguments as bigamy, while a mormon can practice it an Opus Dei memeber (depending of their role on the hierarchy) must remain chaste - women and men are often separated even tho they live in the same building and are not allowed to interact (just a few exceptions and at certain times of day).
So if all of these "little" sects are part of a bigger mass like Catholicism, Christianism, or whatever you want to call it.. how come none of them stick to the foundation and principals of the grand religion itself ?
Its complicated. My personal belief is that, perhaps they have their own ways of thinking and obtaining salvation or just being happy - but mainly, all this nonsense or practice or ideals are political and economical related. Nowdays no one has come to preach or set a number of holy rules without trying to gain something back, either power, money, influence, adoration, followers.. No one is really being faithful just for the heck of it..
On the long run, I think as long as humankind maintains the gift of being able to think and decide for themselves, discussions like this will arise cause is just natural to take positions and defend or punish :)
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@Gargoyle0134 (1257)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I am not one? But Mormons are definitely Christians!
The whole belief they have is based on one man in upstate NY saying that he met the coming back of Jesus in the woods near..I think it was Elmira? And he was called a prophet. (The man..not Jesus.)They believe Jesus has already come back and has been seen and spoken to. And they believe Jesus comes back at various times and speaks here on Earth.
Nope..they are not a secret. They follow the 10 commandments and the "golden Rule," like any other Christian does (or are supposed to) and are otherwise just people like any others.
I don't know enough about them to know what they think about the pope? But that's what I know. They are definitely Christians! (Called the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter-Day Saints, I believe.)
@katprice (805)
• United States
4 Jan 09
Umm...You might want to do some thorough research, as I have done - on both sides. I have actually been to one of their services and investigated it thoroughly.
What I've found is that they present themselves as a Christian religion to gain new members. Go to the "Cults" section of any bookstore and you'll see many of the topics there deal with Mormons and LDS.
@wyomugs (247)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I keep getting into "trouble" when I say this, but it needs to be said, because it is the TRUTH... Mormons are NOT a Christian sect!!! There are SIGNIFICANT differences between what mormons believe and what the basic CHRISTIAN doctrines are. If you would like to read more about these differences, please see the link:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Mormons.html
And let me simply say that JUST because some religion recognizes Jesus does NOT make them a Christian sect. As a PERFECT example of this is Islam. The Islamic faith recognizes Jesus, but that does NOT make them Christians. Trust me... don't EVER say to a Muslim, "So, you believe in Jesus, so that makes you a Christian, right?"
Another website which discusses the mormon religion... honestly... is:
http://exmormons.org/
Again... I know there are a LOT of people out there... especially the mormons.. who WANT them to be called a Christian sect, but the simple matter of FACT is they are not. Unpopular as this view is, I cannot deny the truth, and I cannot allow it to go unspoken.
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