God and faith bashers - I'm tired of them here at Mylot
By mi2ok02
@mi2ok02 (406)
United States
May 23, 2007 3:02pm CST
Every time I try to look up a good discussion on mylot in the religion section, I see a bunch of discussion that have been started that bashes faith of any kind in God.
I'm so tired of seeing this. I don't even dignify their discussion with any sort of response. They are like angry little children who want to throw temper tantrums with anything that concerns faith, religion, Jesus and God.
Do you ignore these discussions or do you try your best to answer them even though they are just trying to bash you for it?
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20 responses
@carpenter5 (6782)
• United States
24 May 07
I agree. I am a believer and the wife of a minister. Let me ask you all something...
I am tolerant of those who have different beliefs that I do. Why can you not afford me the same courtesy?
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
24 May 07
"Let me ask you all something...
I am tolerant of those who have different beliefs that I do. Why can you not afford me the same courtesy?"
Of all the posters so far to this thread, which have expressed intolerance of your beliefs?
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@mi2ok02 (406)
• United States
24 May 07
It is hard to take but a fact that Jesus had warned us about. He did say that the world has hated him and the world will hate us too. But to have joy because that is when we know that we are following truth, Jesus. It would be too simple for others to allow us the same courtesy of tolerance that others give to each other when they are echoing a right to be immoral or to shake their fists at God and we who follow Him. I have more to add but it would become very long! I could save it for another discussion.... :-)
@tess1960 (2385)
• United States
24 May 07
There are several over-righteous religious users here on mylot that brought on a lot of the bashing themselves. I was trying to be in those discussions but found it caused me too much emotional discomfort/stress. The Pagan users on mylot seem to be more into diversification and tolerance than the christians are, whose God said "Love One Another". I fear I will even regret responding to yours. You will find some of your own faith here in mylot with the same level of tolerance/intolerance/diversification/beliefs as your own so do look. But you will have to weed through many. Look for the religion interest and start there. Good Luck and please keep in mind mylot is worldwide and there are many contries on here with many different religious beliefs! All are welcome here!!
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@mi2ok02 (406)
• United States
24 May 07
Very good comments. I try not to be one who will put someone else down for what they believe and yet I can understand the Christians who appear to be intolerant. I know why too because of a scripture that basically gives the message that to condone a sin even though you aren't doing that sin, is just as bad as doing the sin yourself. I can't remember what scripture that is and it will take me a little bit of time to research it and figure out what one it is that gives that message.
@inked4life (4224)
• United States
24 May 07
This is an argument that goes both ways. I have always been an atheist and during that time have been subjected to numerous slams about me being a heathen, that I'm going to hell and my daughter was actually picked on at school because she sais that she didn't believe in God (not something that I forced onto her BTW). I try to ignore those types of discussion as I don't care for intolerance no matter who it's coming from but am occassionally so angered by a discussion that I get involved.
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@carpenter5 (6782)
• United States
4 Jun 07
Inked, I agree with you totally. I can only answer for what I believe. I look at the person on the inside, not what church they do or do not attend...what they wear, what color their hair is etc...
I know some Christians, that really need to get a life, and some athiests who would give you the shirt off their backs. It's all about what's in our hearts...and what we CHOOSE to do to our fellow man.
Intolerance is wrong. On both sides.
@mi2ok02 (406)
• United States
24 May 07
I am sorry for the way you have been treated and your daughter as well. You do not deserve to be bashed for your belief or non-belief as it can be considered.
I also think that a huge problem with the Taliban or some of the radical Muslims and even among radical Christians, is that they are intolerant. It causes a lot of hurt and hatred among the human race. But what are they really intolerant of? I think intolerance is ok in some areas, such as a crime being committed against someone that takes away their freedom, health, life or whatever else. Then there is an intolerance that shouldn't exist, that others should or should not believe a certain way when it comes to God or spiritual matters.
What about that point of view?
@teapotmommommerced (10359)
• United States
23 May 07
Often times I ignore these types of discussions. But I feel we all have the right to say what we want as long as it is not prographic.
I believe in God and have my own faith. Our son does not believe in God or the Devil he thinks that they are made of characters to make mankind obey the law. He feels that people should just obey the law because it is the law.
You have the right to say you dislike Faith bashers as they have the right to bash your faith.
@mi2ok02 (406)
• United States
23 May 07
yes they do have just as much of a right to bash my faith if they want. It is just really sad and dismal to realize that there are some people out there that are angry at God. I can't really fault them for that. I had experienced that at one time or another myself even though I do love God, I still got angry with Him. That's only because of my own immaturity.
Thanks for the great input.
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@rainbowgirl (11)
• United States
23 May 07
I would like to ignore them.
The best thing to do for people like this is to pray for them. They are hurting and angry and want nothing to do with God.
All Christians will get bashed by unbelievers. Jesus was treated horribly by those who hated Him. Jesus said, "remember, the world hated Me first."
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@sandwedge (1339)
• Malaysia
24 May 07
people who have nothing nice to say about God or religion actually wants to believe. they are actually putting EFFORT into bashing other people's believe in effort to them their urge to believe.
For example, i do not believe in existence of bigfoot ABD i do not go around bashing other peoples opinion of bigfoot. I have better things to think about, and why bother?
the answer is...they are doing their very best to not believe.
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@mi2ok02 (406)
• United States
24 May 07
Another thing to think about. If you were to engage in their rants about such things like religion, then we also might inadvertently give them more reasons to continue in being a doubter or a hate monger towards us. I guess that is where we need to remember to give our responses in a loving way. If we cannot, then we should just keep our mouths shut.
@sandwedge (1339)
• Malaysia
25 May 07
i don't read the bible as often as i should but i remember soimething that goes like this,"do not give your jewels to pigs, they will only trample them underfoot".
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
24 May 07
I dont like bashers either. I am Wiccan and I believe that everyone has a right to believe in what ever they want to. Just because something is right for 1 person dosnt make it right for another. What bothers me the most about bashers is that they are going on sterio type and not the actual facts. They have not taken the time to reasearch the topic to be able to make an educated decission about it.
honestly I think people should learn about something before commenting on it.
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@mi2ok02 (406)
• United States
24 May 07
I thank you for your response and I respect that you have your own view.
However, I believe that what is right for one, is right for another and what is wrong for one, will be wrong for another. At least when it comes to law either be it by man's law, nature's law or God's law.
@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
24 May 07
I don't think they're trying to bash the belief in God. There are people out there who simply don't believe, and in our society, they're perfectly free to feel that way. That's the beauty of living in a free society, that they can openly express their opinions, and not be judged for it. Personally, I think Mylot would be very boring if we all thought the same thing.
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@eaforeman6 (8979)
• United States
24 May 07
I am a believer in The lord. I study the bible and consider myself to be a work in progress. I have alot to learn but I do pray for mankind. I also think that progress needs to be made so that everyone can respect each others beliefs. I also dont try to force my beliefs on anyone else. I like to discuss the viewpoints.
@xfallenxlostx (2074)
• United States
24 May 07
Faith bashers have every bit as much right to post on here about their beliefs as anyone who has faith does. Don't you think these fiath bashers get sick of all the "God this" and "God that" discussions? i won't bash faith, but i have none and those discussions really get on my nerves. However, i know that people have every right to post them. Just try to think of it that way.
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@terilee79720 (3621)
• United States
24 May 07
I pick and choose mi2ok02,
Everyone has an opinion that matters and some feel very strongly. Christians and/or discussions about them or God, etc., recieve such responses because they are tired themselves of having us Christians try to push God down their throats.
While I consider myself a Christian, I'm not entereing in to too many discussions about God or Christians because we have developed (all on our own) a very bad reputation for being too zealous or being hypocrits.
It's easy to say you are a Christian. It's something else to practice what we preach. If we are going to talk the talk, we should walk the walk.
Stand firm for what we believe in (when it really matters) and let everyone else believe what they want to beleive. We can't change the way they feel and we certainly won't change their way of thinking. They are entitled to how they believe, just as much as we are.
It's your choice not to dignify their discussions with your response. If you choose to respond, respond with a positive thought and not a condemning one.
Don't take this offensively mi2ok02. It's not my intention to offend you, but if you are a Christian, and believe in God then you should be aware that what I'm saying is true.
@mi2ok02 (406)
• United States
24 May 07
I do not take offense at what you said. I do appreciate your response. It is a good one.
Yes, the status of being a Christian has been viewed as unfavorable as well as favorable. I wouldn't want to do or say anything that my Lord would be saddened about or displease Him.
We cannot change the way people feel or how they believe but I do believe that God can use us if we allow HIM to give them the words or for us to use our testimony. Ultimately, it is the Holy Spirit who brings revelation to those who are seeking truth. If they aren't seeking truth and are just angry, it will be pointless to justify any position whether we agree or disagree with them. It will be like a ball bouncing off of a wall.
@slaveeva (213)
• United States
24 May 07
I am not a christian, but I don't believe in bashing either. I think that we all have to follow our own path in life. What is good and right for you, might not apply for me for a reason unknown to you. If it makes you any happier however, take comfort in this. As a Pagan, I can not post anything have of the Time either without a "Christian" having to bash on my believes or trying to preach at me. I put "Christian", because I have don't believe they really are what they claim to be. Not when they don't follow the teachings of Christ them-selves. I have a few wonderful People in my Circle of acquaintances that are true Christians and I have the highest respect for them. The don't just talk the talk, but walk the walk. That i find inspirational. Sorry you have been hurt and annoyed. I hope more People will respect your point of view for what it is, you right to believe the way you do. And your dedication to your true path in life. Blessings.
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@mi2ok02 (406)
• United States
24 May 07
Your response has been the most amazing one I have received from someone who claims to be pagan! You have a wonderful view about things and it is obvious that you have peace about yourself within yourself. I am sorry also that you have been preached at. Our Lord wouldn't do that but instead, He would probably ask you a question that would make you think.
Thanks for the blessings and I send it back to you.
@toe_ster (770)
• United States
23 May 07
I agree somewhat to what you are saying. I am new on here and religion was the first thing I looked up. It is sad the people are so judgemental sometimes. It would be good to have a good discussion without the bashing or trying to convert someone of your beliefs and views. I don't intentionally ignore discussions. I respond to the ones I find interesting and move on past the ones I can't really come up with a good enough reply. And I don't really take it personal if someone bashes me. They don't always have to like or agree with what I said. That is the beauty of having an opinion.
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@0Impact0 (69)
• United States
24 May 07
Bashing works both ways and either way it's used is stupid... it servers no purpose. Posts that simply bash religion or bash atheists or bash God are just plain stupid. Now arguing a point is an entirely different story and it should be noted that just because someone does not believe in God does not mean they are bashing Him.
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@mi2ok02 (406)
• United States
24 May 07
Mostly I encounter those who are bashing those who do believe but I haven't seen anyone actually bash God Himself. Not that there hasn't been any. I just haven't encounter that.
It is a childish behavior to put each other down about who believes what.
@mi2ok02 (406)
• United States
24 May 07
Brutal.... hmmm. God is a loving god. That is what I choose to believe. I also choose to believe that it is people who are brutal and sometimes interpret God's word for us to be brutal when it comes to justice. This has already being turned into another discussion! That I will leave for another time and topic. Or maybe you can start this one Ramones?
Phew!
@BunGirl (2638)
• United States
25 May 07
My advice to you would be: Don't feed the trolls. These people are only starting such discussions in order to get the rest of us upset, so don't allow them to do so. For every anti-God post here, there are plenty of good, faith-affirming ones. Don't waste your time being annoyed by those who seek to cause trouble. Rather, spend your time reading and conversing with others who share your faith. If you give the blasphemers any attention at all, do so by praying for them. "But I say unto you, love your enemies, and pray for them that persecute you;" (Matthew 5:44 ASV)
@meeandnotyou (2548)
• United States
24 May 07
I don't know why there has to be so much bash but those that do not bash usually try to convert.
I, personally have posted several in the religion catagory, not as a bash but rather a way to get people to think as the whole aspect of religion/faith interests mee and I love to hear the differing opinions/beliefs although I am not of a main stream religion/school of thought. I am quick to bash someone if they try to shove their religion at mee though.
As for ignoring discussions?!? I just pass over discussions if they do not interest mee or if I feel as if I can not supply a different view or an intelligent addition to the discussion. There is no crime in passing over discussions, Do as thou wilt.
Anyways don't let these bashers get you down as they would rather bash then try to understand or they have personal issues that cause them to bash since a person can have a differing opinion and not bash and that would be the difference between education/tact and ignorance. So NEVER let ignorance get you down.
Seeing how you are at 90 I would like to welcome you here to myLot and Have a great day!!!
@meeandnotyou (2548)
• United States
27 May 07
It is a good thing to think about intention before taking offence since it is the intention that is the cause for all. I start discussions about proving the existance of God for the sole purpose of getting a possibly different view on it and to make people think as it is not that I do not believe in God. I am a perpetual STUDENT and I like to learn all that I can and that includes matters of a spiritual/philosophical nature.
You are very welcome for the welcome as it is my pleasure to welcome you into the fold.
Thank you for the response and have a great day!!!
@mi2ok02 (406)
• United States
24 May 07
Thank you for the welcome. I have obviously posted some interesting enough content to receive such responses. This has definitely been an experience and it and everyone has helped me to see things in a different way. I feel as if I have been equipped to be a help and not a hurt in situations. Also I think I will try to learn how to read between the lines. Dig a little to find out why a person has decided to start a discussion that seems like it is offensive to those who have faith in God and help them to reconcile any hurt feelings that may be behind it. If that's possible?
Again, I thank you for your response and the welcome!
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@SheliaLee (2736)
• United States
24 May 07
I understand what you are talking about, it is really sad. I respond to the discussions on religion that really speak out about things I agree or disagree with. If someone gets rude I try to respond back in a loving way. Sometimes they respond back kindly and sometimes they get rude again. If this happens I just don't respond further because I realize they have made up their mind and only the Lord will be able to change their heart. It is heart breaking though to read some of the things that are said. God Bless!!
SheliaLee
@tuposkid (286)
• United States
29 May 07
I will agree that it is annoying. But for Christians, we should look at this is an opportunity to share our knowledge about God and hopefully strike a soft spot in an otherwise hardened heart.
Try not to be too upset. Just take the opportunity to share Christ. The Bible says we will take some persecution for Jesus sake. Stay strong.
@KatieS (503)
• United States
24 May 07
On my first day here, I tried to respond to these same discussions, faithfully, thinking I was doing the right thing by responding, declaring my faith, and witnessing. I was bashed to a sense, but it hasn't stopped me from answering. I never know though what I'm gonna get, I just hope I can help someone who is doubting their faith or questioning God's existence. Satan knows the bible better than I do and I hate that. But I just keep fighting for God. It's my job!