Nikon D40x vs. Canon EOS 400D

Philippines
June 14, 2007 6:44am CST
My fiance and I were looking to buy a camera but we ended up wanting to get a different one. We can't afford two DSLR's so we're going to have to hash it out soon. I liked the Nikon D80 best, but since it was way out of our budget, I decided on the Nikon D40x (which is 10.1 megapixels compared to the Nikon D40 which is only 6.1 megapixels) instead. I liked it because its small body fit my small hands; plus I've heard that Nikon preferred by professional photographers. Princeton wanted the Canon EOS 400D, which I think is known as Digital Rebel XTi in some parts of the world, because it produced sharper pictures and because we were already familiar with its interface since we have a Canon Ixus 900Ti. Does anybody have any of these DSLR's? Could you please tell me your opinion about each one to help us make the choice?
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@jayperiod (870)
• United States
14 Jun 07
The biggest problem I've heard with the D40 is lenses. With it's introduction, Nikon brought out new lenses, which are not compatible with any other body. They only work with the D40. Also, some third party lens manufacturers have not started making lenses for it yet, so getting cheap lenses may be a problem. Also, the 400D is 10 megapixel versus 6 for the D40. If you are just taking snapshots you may not notice the difference, but if you get into portraiture or other larger photos, you will notice a difference. Choosing between these two, the choice is clear; Canon. Now, if you were choosing between the D80 and Canon, that would be a tougher choice.
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• Philippines
14 Jun 07
Yeah, I've heard about the lenses too. But we don't have any old lenses and we're planning to buy the one with a kit so we don't have to buy lenses separately. I don't like the Nikon D40 either. My brother has that and I found the LCD monitor too small and it's only 6.1 megapixels. I'm talking about the Nikon D40x, which has a larger LCD display and more megapixels (10.1) than the D40. If you only knew how much I like the D80. It's just way way beyond our budget at this time.
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• United States
14 Jun 07
It's not just older lenses, though. If you ever plan to upgrade to a different body, you'd have to get new lenses. Plus, you'll find that you quickly outgrow just the one lens.
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• United States
14 Jun 07
Also, have you considered that the D40x is the same price as the 400D? For the same price, the 400D blows the D40x away. I like both Nikon and Canon, but as I said earlier, it would take the D80 before I would have a hard time choosing.
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• Canada
14 Jun 07
A friend of mine and I are both in the market to buy a new camera. I will be purchasing very soon the Canon Rebat XTi and she will be purchasing the Nikon D80 I think she said. That is the real expensive one right? Well I do not know all the reasons to buy either camera she had already done the research and told me basicly what to buy. She also said if she can't find a good deal on the camera that she wants then her next choice would be the Canon Rebel XTi that is it comparable to the Nikon one that she wants for a much less price. I did go into a camera store and ask as well. I did almost buy the Nikon D40 that night. I loved how it felt in my hand more then the D80. The D40 felt almost the same as the D40 but instead of purchasing I came home to contact my friend who said if I dont' buy the D80 then I might as well by the Rebel and not the D40. So I will be buying the Rebel as it is much less then the D80. I hope that helps and I will pass this discussion to my friend who will probably be able to add much more info. She did alot of research. Plus read the forums on these cameras. Really you cant' go wrong with all 3 of these cameras in my opinion. However humble it is. LOL
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• Canada
14 Jun 07
Paulick did you find the camer with the 17:55 or are you buying it seperate. This is the main reason I have not bought my camera yet. I want that lens but can't find a package including it. I only see the camera with the 18:55. If I could get it with the 17:55 I would be perfectly happy with that. I am hoping to find it. So did your camera come with it?
@paulick (533)
• Denmark
14 Jun 07
I am too in the process of buying a new camera. I went to the photoshop and asked what to buy. And with in my pricerange he said either the D40x or Cannon EOS 400D. He said that he would choose the Cannon with out a doubt. So now i'm buying the Cannon EOS 400D with a 17-55 lens and a second lens 70-300mm with extra batterypack. It's gonna be great.
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• Philippines
15 Jun 07
You're planning to buy the one with the lens kit? I read that the Canon 400D a.k.a. Digital Rebel XTi has a really cheap lens kit. By cheap, I mean it's no good. If you're going to buy the Canon, their advise to to get the body only and buy a good lens separately. That's what I read in the reviews.
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@volschenkh (1043)
• South Africa
14 Jun 07
Choosing between cameras is a difficult descicion, even for just one person. But let me share my comments about why I would not buy the D40. 1. Although both the D40 and the 400D are really just a entry-level digital SLRs, the 400D has nearly all the bells and whistles that you'll find on its more expensive siblings. Not so for the D40. 2. The biggest negative for me on the D40 is that it doesn't have an internal focus drive motor and hence no mechanical focus drive pin, instead it only has CPU contacts which means it can only Auto Focus with AF-S and AF-I lenses (those with built-in focus motors). The D50 and D70 use any AF lens perfectly, while the D40 makes you focus the older lenses by hand. So if you are just starting out with photography its not really a problem, but if you have many good lenses already some of them wont be able to autofocus on the D40. So there less flexibility in the choice of lenses. 3. The D40 only uses a three area AF sensor (although it seems to be just as fast), removing some of the flexibility (you can't change the CW average area, exposure steps are fixed at 1/3 EV and there's no bracketing. 4. There is no LCD display of the camera setting(although this has more to do with making the camera smaller than saving money). 5. Depth-of-Field Preview is not on the D40 6. The D40 tends to overexpose, so you have to set it to a -0.7 exposure compensation. 7. Although the camera supports the RAW image format, Nikon doesn't really give you any software to work with it, instead forcing you to get Capture NX or Photoshop. Many of these features are not important to the amateur photographer, but you will find them on the 400D, which leaves some room for flexibility if you perhaps in the furute want to become more of a serious photographer.
• Philippines
15 Jun 07
Hi. I just wrote a 5-paragraph long reply to you but it disappeared when I posted it because apparently, mylot sessions expire really quickly. :-( Arrgh! Sorry, I'm just really frustrated. It took me more than 15 minutes to compose and it just disappeared! I'll try to cut long responses into parts and send each part separately next time. Cumbersome but necessary with the present setting of mylot. I'll do it next time. I'm too tired right now to try again. Goodnight.
14 Jun 07
I have the Canon EOS 400D and i must tell you that i love it! The quality is amazing and you can get incredible photographs if you use it correctly. I can't really see any bad points with it. I think it's pretty good value for money though th Nikon is cheaper. I'm a Canon girl so my opinion is pretty biased! But i highly recommend the 400D, i've never heard anyone regret buying it.
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• Philippines
14 Jun 07
There's not much difference between the prices of the Nikon D40x and the Canon 400D, maybe just a couple thousand pesos. But how is the Canon 400D weight-wise and size-wise? I tried it at the store and my arms got tired pretty quickly. And I had to change my grip on the camera each time I wanted to make an adjustment on the settings. Won't that make a difference, too?
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@Mare73 (1335)
• United States
14 Jun 07
I'm in the process of making an investment on a digital slr. I went to one of our best photo stores and the gentleman was excellent. He said for me starting out, the Nikon D40 was his choice. He did talk about the lenses (although I forgot), but he did say I could easily upgrade!!! The camera comes with a 18x55 lenses. I'm not thinking of becoming rich and famous, it's mostly for hobby and adventure. We'll shall see. There's also a place locally that offers classes on how to get the full affect of your camera, and I'm definitely taking the class.
• Philippines
14 Jun 07
I heard that the Nikon D40 is a great entry level DSLR, too. It's supposedly a very good camera for beginners like myself. I bought National Geographic's The Ultimate Field Guide To Photography some months back. It's taught me a lot. I finally understood what f/stops and aperture and shutter speeds mean. :-) So are you going to buy the D40? You're not going for the D40x which has 10.1 megapixels and a larger LCD display?
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@Mare73 (1335)
• United States
14 Jun 07
The camera here is anywhere from $511 to $599. The place where I'm going to get it from it's going to be $599 because I'm going to put it on layaway (I have 3 months to pay for it). Plus I'm going to get the insurance/warranty on it and that will be an additional $80. The class I was telling you about is $110. The 6.1 or 10 pixels doesn't matter to me. The way he described it the higher pixels is good if you plan on having poster size enlargements - which i'm not. The biggest enlargements I may do is 16x20 and the 6.1 is good for that.
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• Philippines
15 Jun 07
I see. I'm going to be using mine to shoot pictures for our school's tarpaulin banners. The one I'm planning right now is going to be 12x8 feet. Megapixels definitely matters to me. :-) Give me feedback about the Nikon D40 once you get it, okay? :-) Thanks.
• Malaysia
17 Jun 07
Hi Susan, Both the D40 and D40x have the exact same LCD construction, ie 2.5 inches, 230,000 pixels. Information is available at www.nikonusa.com. Hope this helps.
• Philippines
17 Jun 07
Haha, I know. I just found out a few hours ago. It turns out my brother's camera is a Nikon D50, not a D40. It's the D50 that has a smaller LCD. Thanks for pointing it out. :-)
16 Jun 07
hi please find this web address i think it answers all you're qustions.... www.dpnotes.com/canon-eos-400d-digital-rebel-xti-vs-nikon-d40x/ Info that ive found is that they are both very good cameras but if you buy the kit then the nikon is far better than the canon IE; the standard canon lens is renowed as the worst lense on the market so you'll have to spend more cash to get the same result as the nikon in standared form so the point being that puts the canon more exspecive buy about 100pounds... please chech the web address as this gives all the pictures and info you'll need..... hope it helps you pg
• Philippines
17 Jun 07
So it's not just the Canon EOS 400D kit that has a bad lens, it's ALL Canon DSLR kits? You're right though, if you buy the body only and look for a good lens for the 400D, it would come out much more expensive than the Nikon D40x kit which already includes a decent lens. I checked the prices of the lenses for the Canon 400D and the really good ones are even more expensive than the body of the camera!
• Saudi Arabia
18 Jul 07
I am inclined to think that you are from Cebu given the setup of your mylot. If you are, I am planning to take my next vacation again this October. My family actually lives in Cebu which is my adopted home. Although that is still far from now, and, most likely you've already purchased a camera, we can nevertheless hook up, that is yourself, your fiance and I and I'd be happy to share my books, notes, on photography. You can even try my other cameras and see the difference, if any.
• United States
21 Jul 07
I just spent 10 minutes detailing my huge decision making process and myLot lost it all. I'll try to summarize again. I had the same problem, Nikon vs. Canon. Ultimately I went with the Nikon D40x for the following reasons: Nikon offers the option of spot metering; Canon doesn't. Nikon has a slightly larger sensor of 23.7x15.6 vs. Canon's 22.2x14.8 - probably not enough to make a difference but in the world of sensors bigger is better. Nikon has the advantage in the "feel good" department - Canon body feels a bit cheap. Test both for yourself - this is personal preference. Nikon kit lens is right out of the box a decent lens. Canon's kit lens is not very good. I like the brighter Nikon colors that come when using the Auto mode. Canon's Auto pictures always seem a bit underexposed to me and while that can easily be adjusted I don't want to take the time to do anything if I'm in obviously in a hurry. With Nikon, I like the idea of being able to automatically stamp my images via my camera. That helps cut down on busy work. Canon doesn't have this feature built in. Cons of the Nikon (for most people) are: If you want to edit RAW you have to purchase specialized software - this is a non-issue to me because I already have access to it. Lens compatibility can be an issue for people with a large kit of lenses. Once again, this is a non-issue for me because I don't have lenses that won't work with this camera. It still limits my shopping options but this isn't a big deal to me - I prefer the lighter weight of the camera. The Canon has a 9 point AF sensor system - the Nikon doesn't. I wish Nikon did but not too big of a deal for me so far. The Canon has a dust sensor and cleaning system. This is cool and I wish Nikon had it. Both the Nikon D40x and the Canon XTi are great cameras and each has distinct advantages. The Nikon had more of what I wanted in a camera in a less expensive package (when you take into account the kit lens). The "feel good" factor and the spot meter were the two biggest factors in going with Nikon for me. Good luck choosing! Either way it's a winner - just depends on what your pros and cons are by priority.
• United States
1 Aug 07
I have a question. If I buy the D40x, I understand that the biggest drawback is the lens compatibility issue. Basically this means that if I own any older lenses without built-in motors, I'll have to manually focus them on the D40x since the D40x does not have an internal motor. That's fine because I don't own any older lenses. My question is this, if I buy the D40x and I buy the (AF-S/AF-I) lenses for it, will I NOT be able to use it if I decide later to upgrade to a better Nikon??? I don't want to buy lenses for my D40x if they can't be used on any other Nikon. Thanks!