Immigration bill offers a military path to US DREAM Act and citizenship
@whiteheather39 (24403)
United States
June 16, 2007 10:50am CST
What do you all this is this idea. I certainly must be a little noticed provision as I, for one, never heard of it before. What do you think? I think it might have merit.
WASHINGTON -- A little-noticed provision in the proposed immigration bill would grant instant legal status and ultimately full citizenship to illegal immigrants if they enlist in the US military, an idea the Pentagon and military analysts say would boost the Pentagon's flagging efforts to find and recruit qualified soldiers.
Breaking News Alerts The Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act, or DREAM Act, is part of the stalled package of proposals that many in Congress are seeking to resurrect. The proposal, applicable to an estimated 750,000 undocumented residents of military age, stipulates that those who arrived in the United States before age 16, graduated from high school, and meet other qualifications could immediately enter the path to citizenship in exchange for at least two years' service in the armed forces.
The DREAM Act is among a series of proposals that make up the immigration bill, the subject of high-stakes negotiations between President Bush and congressional lawmakers from both parties. Proponents urged Bush to use his influence to get it passed, and the president predicted the controversial changes would succeed, despite lingering opposition from some in his own party
The prospect of recruiting foreigners to defend the United States has been a charged issue in the past. The Pentagon, for example, has opposed several proposals from leading defense specialists to recruit troops overseas -- a move critics liken to hiring mercenaries.
Using the military service option for select illegal immigrants, however, appears to have widespread support as one way to deal with the burgeoning illegal immigration problem.
There are currently about 35,000 non citizens serving in the US military and about 8,000 join each year to take advantage of an accelerated path to citizenship, according to Pentagon statistics. The government wants to further accelerate the process; about 4,000 immigrants serving in uniform became citizens in 2005, compared with 750 in 2001.
Under current law, only citizens and non citizens who are legal residents and hold green cards qualify to serve in the armed forces. By allowing undocumented residents to serve, the DREAM Act would make hundreds of thousands more young people eligible.Continued...
Those who enlist under the provision would become eligible for a so-called Z visa, granting them probationary, or conditional, status as a legal resident -- the first step toward full citizenship. Upon enlistment they would also become eligible for federal student loans and other benefits they are currently denied as undocumented immigrants.
The pool of qualified young people would be significant: The government estimates that there are at least 750,000 undocumented youths of military age in the United States. Only some of them would meet the standards of the DREAM Act, but even 10 percent would equal a typical full year's worth of new recruits.
The Migration Policy Institute, a Washington think tank, estimates that as many as 280,000 illegal immigrants between 18 and 24 would qualify for the program.
"A significant share . . . may join the military as it offers college tuition and job training benefits, as well as for patriotic reasons," according to a policy paper about the issue drafted by the institute.
Choosing military service could bring expedited citizenship for family members of undocumented residents, according to the institute.
"It is not perfect, but it is far better than some of the ways they are talking about to grant illegals new status here," said retired Air Force Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney , a conservative commentator and military analyst.
McInerney added that those eligible would probably be higher caliber than some of the recruits who have joined the Army, because education and other standards have been lowered in recent years to meet recruiting goals. And they would be making the ultimate demonstration of loyalty to their adopted country, he said, putting their lives on the line.
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@herrbaggs (1308)
• United States
16 Jun 07
Yeah, It would boost our military to the largest in the world, it be full of well trained radical jihadists. Another excellent idea from the ranks of the politicaly correct.
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@winky73 (1404)
• United States
16 Jun 07
Okay this sounded all good until I got to that little comment from Lieutenant General McInerney about that those eligible would probably be of higher caliber than some of the recruits who have joined the Army,because education and other standards have been lowered in recent years to meet recruiting goals and they would be making the ultimate demonstration of loyalty to their adopted country....putting their lives on the line.
What the heck is that supposed to mean????Is he trying to say that some of the man and woman that were born and raised as U.S. Citizens and made the choice to serve and protect their country by joining the military.....are not as good as those who came to this country illigaly????
I take that very much as a insult and that is not the way to go.
I'm very proud of all the man and woman that serve this country in order to provide me with the freedom I enjoy daily and it does not matter what caliber person they are.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
16 Jun 07
Yes I look at it as insulting and very demeening to our brave military. He sounds like an officer who has a big and is snob to boot. Apart from that is sounds like one if the better ideas I wonder why it has been kept quiet?
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@winky73 (1404)
• United States
16 Jun 07
I'm not sure why they been keeping this quiet....because right of the bat it sounds like a pretty good plan.....or better than anything they have come up with so far.
I can only see one small problem with it and that is....how are the young man and woman that have joined the military because they are proud of their country and want to serve and protect it feel about it.
They may take it as a insult....because they made this choice by free will and not because they were offered a new status in live.
Having said that....it makes me wonder if those people would really serve this country the way it deserves or if to them it's not going to be just another way to gain legal status and in the end hold no more meaning than that.
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@GardenGerty (160624)
• United States
16 Jun 07
This is an aspect I have not been aware of before, thank you for bringing it up. I do not know why I would not have realized it,when first husband was Navy there was a great percentage of Filipino people serving in the military (quite capably and loyally, too.) I would be in support of this. Illegal immigrants could offer no higher price for their privileges than their own service to this country. To me it would be worth much more than fines, and would demonstrate an intent of loyalty. We pay for many benefits for illegal aliens, this sounds like one way they can earn those benefits. It lends self esteem and dignity to what often is a side show of "catch me if you can!" I appreciate your interest in politics and the news.
@sunshinecup (7871)
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16 Jun 07
I do know there are other countries that do this as well, but I can’t think of them off the top of my head. I don't think I disagree with this. If they are willing to put their life on the line to be a citizen here, I have to say ok. I mean man, how much more of a testament can they give that they are really serious about becoming an American?
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@mizrae (587)
• United States
16 Jun 07
While this idea has merit, have those that are already IN LINE legally to obtain U.S. citizenship join the service, with their families able to live here in the states studying to become citizens. This is still a type of reward for the illegal immigrants and why should they be allowed to jump in line ahead of those who are trying to come here legally? With respect to the comment by Lt.Gen. McInerney, I saw a documentary that the Army spent a lot of money to revamp their training manuals to include "picture how to's" because a lot of the new recruits couldn't read.
@HighReed1 (1126)
• United States
16 Jun 07
I am not impressed with this plan. I don't see why should be rewarding these people at all for being here illegally. Going in the military gives them a job, free food, lodging, medical and dental. I wouldn't want an illegal in the military with my kids!
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@alexisdineros (12)
• United States
6 Aug 09
this bill is aimed for CHILDREN of illegal immigrants who did not have a choice when they were brought here by their parents. they grew up here, adapted american values, and are just as american as other kids in the country. the only thing that sets them apart is the number that determines your american citizenship. these kids deserve the same rights to education as american kids, since the bill is only for those who do well in school. so dont even worry about those gangster ghetto kids cuz theyre not benefitting from the program. and also, dont see this as "rewarding" them, its more of "not punishing" them for the sins of their parents.
@eaforeman6 (8979)
• United States
16 Jun 07
There is no free ride. If they want the rights then they have to pay taxes , earn their money and contribute just like everyone else....and if they are willing to do all that..then they are paying their dues and we should support it...They are here anyway and going to keep coming so you might as well let them earn the rights...Many people find out after learning all of this...that Americans dont have it as easy as they might have thought......
@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
18 Jun 07
I'm sure it has its pros and cons. I have trouble with rewarding people who break the law. If they break the immigration laws what other laws and rules will they consider breaking if it benefits them.
I know that many immigrants have become soldiers and sailors in our military because they are grateful for our freedoms and opportunities. But are illegals grateful?
After years of working with prison inmates I've yet to see many of them to be grateful for the opportunity to repay the community by serving time. More often than not they are angry that they got caught and think serving time for their crime is unfair.
Let's reward LEGAL immigrants with speeding up their process of attaining citizenship by serving in the armed forces for the U.S.
@sumofalltears (3988)
• United States
16 Jun 07
I think it is a viable alternative, and something worth looking into. But I think the term of service should be 4 years especially since they will have gi benefits after getting out. But what about citizenship for their families does that still fall under the original law? This is something that shoulld be seriously considered if they want citizenship that badly. Military service should be taken a lot more seriously by everyone, it is an important aspect of any country's structure.