It's official - Singapore more expensive to live in than New York City
By squaretile
@squaretile (3778)
Singapore
June 19, 2007 4:01am CST
Our worst fears have been confirmed. Singapore has been found to have a higher cost of living than NYC!
http://news.asiaone.com.sg/a1news/20070619_story20_1.html
The article above explains more on how Singapore is now the 14th most expensive city for expatriates in the world and 5th in Asia, according to a survey of cost of living by Mercer Human Resource. Sigh!
And there was another info advert on how electricity tariffs are going up cos they are pegged to oil price on the forward market or something.
What do you do when the cost of living rises and rises?
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9 responses
@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
19 Jun 07
actually i guess i'm really one weird person.
though everyone around me is complaining that cost of living is rising.
things are getting more expensive and how their pay is never enough.
for me i find that my income is getting better and i can afford a lot more things i didn't used to be able to.
take our parents generation for example, their cost of living is definitely lower (since it has been increasing).
but how come our generation are living in bigger flats, buying bigger tvs, eating out at restaurants more often.
and also having a car was considered a rich-man thing but familiies now are measured by how many cars each household has???
to me it's the keeping up with the joneses symptom at work.
if we dun compare, think we will be a lot happier with our lives and pay :p
compared to 10yrs ago when i first started working, my pay has increased and i find that i can afford a lot more things.
when i first started working, i can't even take a short holiday but now i can afford to take at least one long trip a year.
as for the increase in prices, what i do is cut back on those that increased beyond my means loh
like electricity, do what they advise to reduce electricity consumption :)
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@squaretile (3778)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
It's good that your pay increases are keeping pace with inflation and the rising cost of living.
Well, I think our parents generation made buckets from property price appreciation, even if it were just HDB. Never again in our generation will we see that sort of ten-fold increase in price, and we're not even talking about en-bloc.
i think people are living in bigger flats cos in part they are committing (over-committing?) more of their salaries and future income to property.
yah i guess after 10 years of work, the pay is above average, esp if you have specialised and become very valuable to the company. (: Cheerio! Glad to hear someone has an optimistic view!
@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
guess i'm a careful spender in a way.
so my pay is sustaining me well.
and also my pay IS increasing faster than the inflation rate :p
i'm quite thankful about it, really.
as for moving out of singapore, it has not really cross my mind.
coz i can't really imagine going to a place where my taxes are given to lazy bums as welfare :(
also, singapore is really a place where there isn't really much discrimination.
most importantly, the food is really good and i seriously dun believe i can get this kind of variety, at this kind of price and this kind of convenience anywhere else in the world :p
try craving for mee siam at 4am in the morning and you'll know what i mean...
@crazypumpkin (501)
• Philippines
19 Jun 07
Move?...lol...I guess if you have no other choice you either bear with it or just consider other means of tightening your belt.
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@squaretile (3778)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
Move? Hard to move, esp with the whole Asian family ties thing...
@noyida (795)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
To look at the survey positively, it is kind of good. If the cost of living here is more expensive, then there must be some perks to it. The survey conducted are for expatriates, who most likely living in condominium, semi detached, terrace house and private apartments around the city busiest place like Orchard. They dont normally take public transport or even shop at the housing estate for the locals. Thus they categories Singapore as expensive. Nevertheless, if the survey be conducted concurrently with local as well, then it will come out with different results. For once, all those expatriates who responsed to the survey somehow had been living at other Asian country like Indonesia, Malaysia or Thailand.
Btw, still there are a plenty of expatriates who would like to live here cause of the safetyness.
As to your question, if the cost of living keep rises, I would not run away from my homeland, I would rather be more prudent in my spending to my means and not follow others just to show off.
Just to add to one of your comments on the response "The lure of the food here is too tempting and it a major factor for the decision of staying put in Singapore".
To our beloved Singapore - One People One Nation One Singapore.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
29 Jun 07
Well, I beg to differ.
The food in Penang is equally good, if not, better than some of the Singapore equivalent!
I am a foodie myself, and I really appreciate good food when I get the chance. And the numerous visits to Penang, I find the food there to be comparable and surpassing to Singapore food on many levels.
@squaretile (3778)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
we must be a rare country whose people's loyalty are tied to its food! haha. one people, one large hawker centre, one singapore.
@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
hahaha, this i totallly agree!!!
i love the food here and i just can't find this kind of feeling anywhere else in the world.
yes some places may offer 'singapore' food but the kind of convenience and price is not found :p
@lordwarwizard (35747)
• Singapore
19 Jun 07
The thing is, what can we do? Can we even do anything?
Yes we can go make a banner and stand at the Istana and cry, perhaps. Then within 5 min, the cisco there will pack out to changi and we can say good bye to mama sun.
But it sounds quite cool, wouldn't you think? We are an expensive place to live in. lol ^^
@squaretile (3778)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
that's the no choice argument. kinda makes me wonder. HK can protest and then their govt dun dare to implement GST. Over here, no such luck!
Guess it'd be cooler if I were an Indon billionaire. Well, Geneva is an expensive place too, but at least Sgp is infinitely more interesting.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
19 Jun 07
ha ha... I am not the least bit surprise.
The cost of living is not just increasing for expats. It is also increasing for locals as well!
The salary that I earn is buying lesser with each passing year!
What to do? Don't have enough opportunities to get out of the rut... so adapt loh.
Adjust the expenditure accordingly to what we earn and seek ways to make a little more money to cover the additional cost loh
@squaretile (3778)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
yah our wages are not keeping pace with inflation and the property price index increase! Don't even want to start on price of cars and public transport. feddup.
@buzzmonster (250)
• Australia
20 Jun 07
Why am i not surprised? Growing up in Singapore made me see what i did NOT want to be like....and whilst the economy is booming, it's not the type of lifestyle that i wanted!
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@squaretile (3778)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
yup, there was a recent article by an emigrant living where you are now, that he's happy to pay the much much higher taxes etc just for more work-life balance.
And of course a nice landed home and a decent pace of life for his growing up kids.
For me, the food is still kinda too attractive to resist. can't say no to yummy $2 hawker fare at some old markets. heh.
@buzzmonster (250)
• Australia
20 Jun 07
Ever been to Melbourne?!?!?!
The food here is almost equivalent to that of Singapore's (for a slightly higher price), and half the population is pretty much all from Asia anyway ;P
@webeishere (36313)
• United States
19 Jun 07
I live in suburban Minneapolis Minnesota. The cost of living here is not too bad compared to other large cities in the States. So at this time I do not owrry too much about the cost of living. It has risen a bit since I moved here from Detroit in 1975. But it's easy to live here right now even on minimum wages for a lot of people. Rents and all are decently priced too. The only thing that's of a concern to most Minnesotans is the cost of fuel and gas heat for the colder areas.
HAPPY POSTINGS FROM GRANDPA BOB !!~
@squaretile (3778)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
That's great... I think the cost of fuel in the US is overall much much cheaper than in Singapore. we have zero natural resources and have to import everything. At the mercy of gulf states and the OPEC.
@strikingviper88 (50)
• India
19 Jun 07
there is only one answer to this......SAVE.. save like your life depends on it(which it kind of does)
plus having investments in fields such as real estate also helps a lot...
@squaretile (3778)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
yah - your retirement life does depend on your savings. Real estate? worried about the bubble bursting - doesn't seem sustainable. Actually, which bubble every is? (:
@ryanphil01 (4182)
• Philippines
20 Jun 07
it's a global phenomenon. everything is going up. with the meager salary we have, we have no choice but to buy the things we NEED rather than the things we WANT. Don't spend more than what you earned, that's the best rule to follow.
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@squaretile (3778)
• Singapore
20 Jun 07
yah i guess living within our means and being content is the pathway towards happiness.