African American kids adopted by white parents
By sahm35
@sahm35 (890)
United States
June 26, 2007 3:44pm CST
Do you think that whites should adopt African American kids? I have worked in adoption and find that many white parents aggressively adopt black children. They know nothing of the African American culture, hair maintenance, grooming, music, or inventers.
The white families refuse to have diversified friends and only attend places in their communities that are segregated.
(ie churches, schools, libraries, movie theatre)
Sometimes the only AA that the kids sees are the ones in the media.
So what do yo think
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13 responses
@smiley20903 (495)
• United States
26 Jun 07
I see nothing wrong with a white couple adopting an black baby..and I am black...Skin color should not matter if a child needs a home...What able black couples adopting black babies...or for the matter any different race and nationality adopting a baby of a different race. When do u draw the line...Children are children and race should play no part in a part wanting to care for them...
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@smiley20903 (495)
• United States
26 Jun 07
I don't what society u live in...but I have never seen or heard anything about a white person adopting a black baby and not being able to provide for them or give them the things the need...Look at Angela Jolie and Madonna..they adopted black babies...There is nothing wrong with a person from another race adopting....we blacks have the same needs as whites do....all children want is love, affection, and the daily neccessities of life and again skin color should not matter....maybe u should do some research on the issue...
@smiley20903 (495)
• United States
26 Jun 07
we as a nation and country should move on past color..and love and treat everyone equally..
@hermitcrabheaven (645)
• United States
26 Jun 07
I think that anyone should be able to be a family. I am white myself, and know next to nothing of the things you are talking about, that you would need to know to raise an African American child. If I were to choose to adopt, which is not likely to happen, I would be sure to learn all I could of that child's culture, history, etc. My husband is half Filipino, which makes 2 of my children a quarter. Not quite the same thing as being full Filipino, but we make sure to join in the Filipino groups where we live. That way the kids will be able to learn about their ancestors & where they came from.
I think another reason so many people adopt children of different races (especially white people) is that it is easier to adopt a child from another country. Adoptable children are in smaller supply here than they are in other countries. Once again, if I were to adopt, I would want to help out a child that is in a less fortunate situation.
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@Lvdeckape (320)
• United States
26 Jun 07
My fiance's sister is full blooded Filipino, and I know this has nothing to do with what you wrote, but she is the sweetest person around and she was also adopted and has been to foster home to foster home and now has 6 biological girls and are all so beautiful and highly intelligent in which are half white and whatever else the dad is and filipino.
I still stand strong to what I said before which is where it shouldn't even matter of the skin color or race or what have you but the bond you have with that child and what is important.
-Lora
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@hermitcrabheaven (645)
• United States
26 Jun 07
Lora, yes, what you said is pretty much what I was trying to say in a very long-winded way. I believe that color shouldn't matter to anyone. In a perfect world, it really wouldn't. I would like my children to have the opportunity to know their background. I find it interesting. I know my background; where all my ancestors came from, what they did, why, etc.
@hermitcrabheaven (645)
• United States
28 Jun 07
I need to re-clarify what I meant. I meant that it is easier to adopt younger children from other countries, than it is to adopt them from the U.S. And I believe the only reason it is easier to do so, is because the other countries are poorer, and have less resources to care for their children than we do.
I didn't mean that it was just easier all around to adopt a child from another country. It's just that it seems to me that there would be more younger children in orphanages in other countries, than there is here. I don't mean that we should all go to another country just because it's easier. Honestly, I would rather see our children in good homes first.
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
26 Jun 07
honestly I think it shouldent matter. As long as the child is placed into a loving home where the parents can provide for the child thant I dont see a problem. Styling hair and culture anyone can learn.
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@sahm35 (890)
• United States
26 Jun 07
Exactly my point! It should not matter who adopts a child. As long as the child is placed with loving parents that can provide for him. YES!!! I agree. That is why I would assist with adoptions where the kids got out of foster care. Because styling hair and culture can be learned by anyone!
The truth is however, in my experience, I have found that when "people of different cultures" adopt "kids from different cultures" (especially in the case of White parents adopting AA children)that the adopting parent does not research the culture of the child.
You may think that hair is not a big deal! Yes when you are hungry and no one truly loves you hair is not a big deal.
But when you get the stomach full, the roof over your head, the clothes on your back, then you began to look at your hair, your skin and wonder why cant my hair flow in the wind like Becky's?
Why dont I ever look neat and put together like the other kids?
When the rubber meets the road people! What do yo have then?
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
28 Jun 07
OH OH OH I LOVE THIS TOPIC!!! and I'll tell you why....
I'm a mixed race woman (1/2 Polish, 1/2 West Indian) and I was adopted by a VERY white British couple back in the 70s in Canada and I have to tell you all the other crap they put me through aside, I have serious issues with how they handled my race being differnet to theirs...
Not only were jokes made at my expense but I was actually DENIED knowing about my heritage when I would ask questions because *get this* I "had no right to betray" my adoptive family and "how dare" I even ask :-/ ...I grew up being treated like i was basically white which believe it or not is SO DAMAGING..all the name calling from my peers, all the jokes and cruel comments about me being "white washed" etc etc...it was horrible...My mother (who is a flippin wingnut) has even gone as far as to say things like how my son is spitting image of her nephew and how they look a like etc etc which is physically impossible for starters and quite frankly extremely insulting to me and my bloodline not to mention my kids bloodline ya know...
I'm all for ppl adopting outside their race..I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with that BUT If someone IS goin to do that...NEVER EVER deny that child his/her heritage...its wrong, its cruel and its actually painful especially when the difference in race is SO obvious....
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
29 Jun 07
Oh my LOL why you are most welcome....I have to say that this one of the many topics that I am EXTREMELY passionate about (right along with parents givin their children up UPDATING THE DAMN FILES LATER ON ggrrrr dont get me started on that one LOL)
"Would you allow a pedophile to adopt a child? I hope not. That pedophile would sexually abuse the child"
LOL dont get me started on that one either ;-)
@Modestah (11179)
• United States
30 Jun 07
some people get adopted by persons who ought not be permitted to adopt.
If your adoptive parents had issues against your races then they should not have adopted you. It is absurd to expect that all people would behave the same.
I am so sorry that you were maltreated, that really sucks!
I agree with you, no matter what race - or ethnicity - or even nationality of origin, the adopted child should learn what he hailed from. It is part of knowing ourselves and our boundries, it is important. Do we not all want to know what we came from be it lovely or tragic?
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@sahm35 (890)
• United States
29 Jun 07
PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD RAVENLADYJ! ALL OF THIS CRAP THAT EVERYONE IS SAYING ABOUT LOVING THE CHILD! READ HER COMMENTS!
Listen once more people!!!!!!!! Here is a lady who has lived what I as a social worker has experienced!
I am for interracial adoptions!!!!!!!!!! Do you get it! She even said the same thing! She said and I quote:
"I'm all for people adopting outside their race..... But... NEVER EVER deny that child his/her heritage!
Would you allow a pedophile to adopt a child? I hope not. That pedophile would sexually abuse the child. A loving mother that does not know or care to know about this child's culture is emotionally abusing the child.
I have seen these loving adoptive mothers come in and get some of the most beautiful children! You can see it in both eyes of the child and parent that there is love there. But you have got to be aware of these kids' culture! When they get out of your lap and they go out into society they need to be equipped.
THANKS SO MUCH RAVEN LADYJ for putting some sort of perspective on this subject!
@Modestah (11179)
• United States
27 Jun 07
I think that it depends on the reason for adopting. I think it is better to be adopted by a family of a different ethnicity than to be left in the system. I also think that your opinion is rather harsh and ill founded (segregated parts) is not your whole point about segregating? keeping the "AA" (I dislike that term) with "AA"?
now, I have heard some people say that they want to adopt and are determined to adopt "AA" children. They mentioned that the reason they wanted "AA" children specifically was because "they are SO cute"
I am absolutely against adoption of a specific ethnicity on the grounds of aesthetics.
@sahm35 (890)
• United States
1 Jul 07
Very interesting to hear that white adoptive parents want to adopt black children because they are cute.
I think that this may be some of the reasons why some adoptive mothers do not take the time to learn about the child's culture.
I think that pet stores may have the same problem. People adopt animals and dont realize what all goes into caring for it and end up dropping them out in the middle of no where. Snakes, aligators...
I also heard of a case when people were adopting wolves for dogs. But the wolves would never tame right and so they would just throw them away.
That is what the kids look like when they walk back into my office, thrown away.
@Lvdeckape (320)
• United States
26 Jun 07
I find there is nothing wrong with adopting a black, white or whatever color it may be but I do think that whomever adopts other cultures should take the time to learn their culture and their style of living just so that child can feel more at home and they can learn from one another,
I think it is awesome that people adopt different colors and nationalities and I would do it in a heart beat but would defiantly do research on their culture and become more aware of their beliefs and background and all those important details etc.
You did make a very good point though and I respect that.
-Lora
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@Krisss (1231)
• Australia
27 Jun 07
Parents having their own biological child also have no idea what is ahead of them. We all learn on the job, nothing on earth can prepare you for that.
An open and loving mind is what any adoptive parent needs, the childs colour has nothing to do with it. Providing the parent is willing to provide and nuture that childs spirit they will take care of minor details like hair care.
@sahm35 (890)
• United States
29 Jun 07
Minor details....When I am on the street, hungry, out in the elements. Who cares about my hair.
When I am at school and my hair is matted on top of my head, my school mates laugh at me, and I see another black girl whose hair is beautifully maintained, it doesnt feel so minor anymore.
@nicolec (2671)
• United States
26 Jun 07
A little harsh on the people adopting, aren't you? Shouldn't we just be thankful these children are getting a home regardless of race.
I have some white friends who adopted a black child. he does not live a sheltered life, being exposed as you say to other black people only on tv.
I don't know where you live, but if it's in an area where white families refuse to have diversified friends and only attend segregated events, I would move.
@sahm35 (890)
• United States
26 Jun 07
I think at first social services were happy that white families were coming in and adopting black children. However more and more black social workers began to see the effect that it had on the black children. Sure they were fed, clothed, and housed, which is what the foster care system did however emotionally the kids did not seem to be thriving when the kids hit about 9 to 11 years of age and they began tomove away from the safety and security of the white family and friends.
They were different and adopted and the kids were faced with this issue everyday.
There are many white people that cant tell you what to do with African American hair. You see biracial girls all of the time with the shaggy ponytails, because theire white moms know nothing about getting some hair creme and coming the child's hair.
FP's bring black children into my office and the kids look a mess. I have had to go out with the FP's and teach them the proper combs,brushes, hair cremes that will tame these heads.
These kids need love. I am the first to admit this! But these kids need emotional and mental assistance as well. Even AA kids that are raised by AA parents show educate themseves about the culture.
AA kids need to see positive AA adults that understand what its like to AA.
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@nicolec (2671)
• United States
27 Jun 07
Any person who opens thier home to a child is a gift enough. Are you that concerned with apperances? Yes, perhaps the mother/father should take some time to learn what is best for that child's hair, but that's not what it is all about. A lot of adopted children have trouble knowing they are adopted regardless of race. My cousin never did quite come to grips with it and she was white in a white family. It's all on an individual basis.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
29 Jun 07
"Any person who opens thier home to a child is a gift enough"
I'm sorry but I have to disagree...nevermind back when i was adopted...but nowdays FAR TOO MANY ppl adopt for the wrong reasons..ppl wantign to adopt arent screened nearly enough and unfortunately its not a case of ANY PERSON...many yes its a gift..others though, sadly its game, a con, a scam and so on.....Now it did happen when I was an infant in the system BUT it was rare..
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
26 Jun 07
What I think is that you have an extremely racist outlook. These children need a kind loving home and the white adoptive parents will probably give them that. I have a mixed race child in my family - she in fact has a great grandmother who was related to Martin Luther King. We have learned to cope with her hair etc. and she is beautiful and loved tremendously. People with your outlook certainly should not be working in adoption.
@tdbrower1969 (1242)
• United States
27 Jun 07
I also see no reason why white families should not be able to adopt black children. If this is happening, maybe their should be classes offered to the adoptive parents about the care of hair, and emotional attachments to their own ethnicity. Maybe these families are just unsure of where to go, and what to do. I have some friends who are white, who adopted a bi-racial little girl and she is beautiful. But, the adoptive parents made sure that they knew beforehand some of the tricks and rules in maintaining their daughters hair. Maybe this should be a mandatory thing when the adoption process is going through.
@sahm35 (890)
• United States
27 Jun 07
Good point. I agree whole heartedly! Thanks you seem to have understood my point. We can not just white wash this and sing "we are the world."
Some agencies have offered classes especially for the FP's to gte their much needed hours for each year. But sometimes they fall short and dont think that its necessary. Just wash and go. Others have said that the classes offered were not good and they did not learn much.
But if it was mandatory and several classes were offered reagrding hair and culture maybe it would make a difference.
I lived in Detroit, MI at the time. The white people did not live in the inner city where most of the kids came from. So they took them from the city to the surburbs which was a culture shock right there and would literally mess these kids hair and self esteem up.
The kids would go to school, their hair a mess and would get teased terribly. SO it really happens. Sorry to have bust any bubbles.
@devilsangel (1817)
• United States
27 Jun 07
I don't know where you're getting your information from but it is seriously flawed. One of the main things that courts and social services isnsit on is that the child be taught about their culture and heritiage from whatever parents they have. White,black,hispanic or other wise. I have seen interracial addoptions and foster care, I have also seen the paper work required for such things. There are many stipulations on how that child is to be rasied and taught. So no they aren't just taught about their culture through tv. As far as hair maintenance that isn't that hard. My children are bi-racial and frankly they know are taught about both cultures. Not just one. There are just as many black people who dont know aobut their own background and histroy as there are white people who do. So to sit and say that just because a white couple decieds to adopt a black child it is not going to know where it came from is just pure BS.
@devilsangel (1817)
• United States
29 Jun 07
Well not everyone has that happen either, my adoptive parents are white, my dads family is british and my moms family is french. I know has never treated differently nor do I have any problems being accepted in eitehr world. I know where I come from, I know my roots and I know my history. I have several friends who were also adopted by parents of different races then their own and have had no problems being taught about their cultrual background and who they are.
@sahm35 (890)
• United States
29 Jun 07
Really now? Can you please read Raven Lady J's comments and tell me what happenend in her situation. I have seen more of the same and it was not even 10 years ago that I was seeing it.
I have heard of the all of the paperwork stuff that you are referring to and the parents say whatever needs to be said to get that child home.
Please read on.
@MisterSteve (30)
• United States
27 Jun 07
I actually think the trend is just that: A trend. Yuppies see celebrities do it and they do it. These people are generally liberals and have difficulty thinking for themselves.
@sahm35 (890)
• United States
27 Jun 07
Yes sometimes. But honestly I think that Madonna and Angelina really loves these kids and want to help them. The women that came into the agency and adopted black children really loved those kids. You could just see it in the kids eyes that they were being loved, sometimes for the first time.
But... there is still a culture that the kids belong too no matter what you tried to shield them from they will be exposed to. Teach them or find someone else that will.