Authority at School...
@LightninStrike (5915)
Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
June 28, 2007 6:23am CST
Here in Spain things have changed a lot at shcool in the last 20 or 30 years. Teachers used to be like dictators, always very distant and imperative, and they could even bump their pupils when they considered it necessary.
Nowadays, it's the opposite. Kids have no respect for their teachers, who cannot do anything about it because they'd get fired right away.
I think that Not everything in the past was good, but nowadays all trace of respect is lost. More and more teachers are beaten by the students or even by their parents. Is it the same there? What do you think of it? Should there be more discipline at schools again?
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@ilaganpacurib16 (2)
• Philippines
29 Jun 07
There should be more dicipline in school in terms of learning. Lets say if the student don't comply with the assignment, exams and projects give them another chance but if they did not make it let them failed for them to realize that what they do is what they get. The teachers should also teach and discuss with the student the value of life the value of education the value of a being teachers and sending them in good school by their parents let them realize again that education is the best gift that they ever recieved in thier life that no one can get it. Hiting the child in some way it is posible but in school its not possible just tell the parents about their behavior and let them do the spanking and hiting. Just force the student to write and concentrate in a subject and studies and for the teachers be more patient more passionate more giver to the students
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@LightninStrike (5915)
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
29 Jun 07
thanks for sharing ilaganpacurib.
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@spraytask2 (43)
• United States
28 Jun 07
lol isnt that koo? lol im joking yeah there should be more discipline but its not because of the rules it has to do with the type of teach theres teachers that u see them and see their character and kno not to mess with and u respect them and theres just some that are lazy and u dnt respect thats the case its that teachers arnt prepared and trained right thats my opinion
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@LightninStrike (5915)
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
29 Jun 07
thanks for sharing spray.
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@rhinoboy (2129)
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28 Jun 07
In the UK, things seem to be very much the same as your description of Spain. Kids are often abusive or violent toward teachers because they know they can get away with little or no punishment.
I think the problem is worse in poorer areas where the kids have no ambition, they believe it is natural to leave school and live on government benefits. They have no value of their education. I think the only way to solve this problem is to make people on unemployment benefits do hard work for their money like picking up litter or shovelling snow in winter etc. That way people would value their educaton and work hard to get a better job.
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@LightninStrike (5915)
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
28 Jun 07
I agree rhino....i just wish things could change...but i cannot see it happening anytime soon..
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@joodzki6 (596)
• Philippines
2 Jul 07
Teachers like parents should deserve respect from the students. Here, we do respect teachers so much..we consider them our 2nd parents. For some cases, teachers tend to hurt their students physically, we go on to a legal process, if they will found them guilty, termination will be their verdict. But i haven't heard of anything about the teachers being beaten by the students...that's aweful and cruel.
For some or in my case, my teachers in high school are my friends until now. And my respect to them will never fade.
Of course, discipline is very important. But we have to do it in a proper way.Nowadays, students are different when it comes to discipline...some are becoming disrespectful. But this should be started at home...parents should instill that to their children so, when they face reality, they know how to deal with others specially elderly people.
@LightninStrike (5915)
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
2 Jul 07
It sounds that over there it is as it used to be here not that long ago. Let's hope that we go back to the good path here as well. thanks for your posting :)
@aliasad (1567)
• Pakistan
28 Jun 07
I had been teaching in a school, about eight years back. I was then only 22 whilst I started the job and remained for almost a year. What I observed over there was even surprising for me too. While I was a student, we had so many strict teachers who even beaten us with stick,:) literally. But I don't remember that we had even asked once for the punishment. Parents were even then very keen for the studies of children but there was "no compromise" at the cost of studies.
But I felt, being teacher, it is sometimes good to be strict in order to maintain the descipline but to beat the student is I think not good. This is the way how to deal different type of students. A teacher is role model, after the parents, to whom a kid learns the education as well as the style too. This implies to both the parties that is parents and teacher, how they can coordinate in bringing up the good pupi;s as well as desciplined citizen.
As far as the last sentence is concerned, if students are beating the teachers, I don't term them student, they are rude enough and the concerned must solicit the reason at both the parts. Why the students are beating the teachers? This is quite possible that something is really imbalanced at both parts.
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@LightninStrike (5915)
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
28 Jun 07
very enlightening aliasad, thank you :))
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@mummymo (23706)
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1 Jul 07
yes it is the same here in Scotland Lightnin and I think it is a disgrace! I have brought my children up to have respect for their elders and I am proud of the fact that they have listened and are always well behaved and respectful at school. Having said that my 5 year old daughter was spat at , along with another girl in her class the other week and there is very little they can do to discipline the 5 year old culprit! I would have punished my kids so much if they had done something like this and that is part of the problem - some parents just don't care! xx
@LightninStrike (5915)
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
1 Jul 07
yeah, we often blame schools and teachers for what our kids do, but most of the blame should be put on the parents' shoulders, since they're often negligent about their educative duties. They think that just by keeping kids entertained it's enough, and the school will take care of the rest. But no, discipline, authority, respect, etc are principles that parents should teach their children.
@rosie_123 (6113)
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28 Jun 07
Well it's definately the same here in the UK. I have friends who are teachers, and it's terrifying to hear the stories they come home with. The kids have no discipline and no respect nowadays. When I was at school, we were actually scared of our teachers, and although that isn't always good either, at least we listened, paid attention, and learnt something! And of coutrse, if we ever did get into trouble, then the teachers would tell our parents, and we'd get into trouble again at home for being "cheeky" to a teacher! Nowadays, if a teacher tries to discipline a pupil, they end up being threatened and/or sued by an angry parent tellig them not to lay a finger on their darlimg child! It's very sad.
@LightninStrike (5915)
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
28 Jun 07
So far, the only people who have said that it's the same in their country are british, so that has to mean something, i guess. I really think that some values are being forgotten, and it's a terrible mistake. thanks rosie.
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@cdparazo (5765)
• Philippines
28 Jun 07
It is not the case here in school. Parents here are very involved in their children's education that teachers have to be watchful on what they teach or let the students do. It is totally unacceptable here for students, teachers and parents to be violent with each other because they will be dealt with accordingly, by the school and with our law. Parents could never hurt a teacher without dealing with the consequences and the same with teachers who my hurt a student. Though kids today are getting more unruly and vocal towards their teachers, but they still maintain respect for their teachers.
@LightninStrike (5915)
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
28 Jun 07
Well i'm glad things are different there. When parents used to be called to go to school because their kid had goten in trouble, they would wonder "what's he/she done now". Nowadays they are paranoid about teachers havind been unfair to their kids, who of course are perfect and UNABLE of any evil....stupids LOL.
@add_im (2712)
• Philippines
28 Jun 07
I can see here in a different situation where the teachers are the ones who do the violent thing towards their students or abused them physically. Their excuses are that, it's only about or part of disciplining their students why they've done such but I dont think abusing people physically is included in discipling one person, for me it's not a so called 'discipline' but rather it's an abusive act towards one person or a maltreatment.
@LightninStrike (5915)
• Saint Vincent And The Grenadines
28 Jun 07
It's curious to see how different things are depending on where you are. Anyway, teachers being abusive is not good either...balance is the key.