Is it right for an employer to deprive their employees to do part time jobs?
By ireneortiz
@ireneortiz (272)
Philippines
July 16, 2007 12:13am CST
This is something i dont understand, does an employer have every right to deprive their employees to think of having other part time jobs? I knew a person who reasoned out that an employee having part time jobs become less focus on their work and thus the company suffers. She doesnt want employees to think of other things while working with her.
The way I see it she is right if her concern is doing it during office hours but i think beyond her hours is no longer her concern. Now if she sees that performance of the employee is being affected then is the time that she could do something about it but if you are doing well i dont think it is right for her to deprive the employees of the opportunity to earn extra income.
Whats your comment?
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16 responses
@creationhub (3066)
• Malaysia
16 Jul 07
This discussion certainly sets our minds analysing. To me, an employer can prevent his or her employees from doing part time jobs IF it has been specifically spelled out in their terms and conditions of employment. These terms and conditions should be from the time the Letter of Acceptance is signed and not added on later.
If I am an employer, I would also consider the welfare of my employees. Are they doing part time jobs to make ends meet? Or is it that they are planning ulterior motives. Is the part time jobs a conflict of interest to the company?
Having said this, I think both parties have responsibilities to harmonize an employment contract.
@ireneortiz (272)
• Philippines
16 Jul 07
Hi! It is nice to know that you see both sides, I think you have a sound argument on this. You are right that it should be clear out before employment had been accepted and honoring it afterwards.
@ireneortiz (272)
• Philippines
16 Jul 07
do you think this is normal attitude? the way she thinks makes here a slave driver.
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@milott (2646)
• India
16 Jul 07
Absolutely, it is not on their part to deny some employees doing part time jobs, I have seen quite an employers who don't like their employees doing part time jobs which is not warranted as it is their personal life and they entitled to do anything once they are out of the office. Only thing is that the employees should not do the part time job during their regular job or in the office.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
16 Jul 07
The way I see it is if my boss is only entitled to tell me what to do for the hours that i am paid by him. If my boss challenged me like that I would ask him to pay me for my time off the clock or fire me. I am confident he would not fire me as I am a good,honest and dependable worker for him.
If your part time job were affecting your fulltime job, then and only then, he would have the right to confront you about your job performance. What you do off the clock is your own business. What you do on the clock is your bosses and even then ..only to a point.
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@ireneortiz (272)
• Philippines
16 Jul 07
Exactly my point. If your performance is good and she has nothing to worry about then she cannot deprive you of having partime job even after her hours.
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@immortalsecrets (43)
• India
16 Jul 07
Yes, as long as her part time job does not interfere with her current job, the employee should be allowed every rights to do the job. An ideal boss, would never pose a threat to such actions.
@ColeCash1977 (246)
• Columbus, Ohio
16 Jul 07
An employer has the right to make many demands that no employee should ever bow to. The problem is that people these days are not willing to stand for their rights any more. All the rights that were fought so hard for are being eroding day by day as labor gives in. You need to understand that companies need employees, not the other way around.
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@ireneortiz (272)
• Philippines
16 Jul 07
Hi cole thank you for your response. You have a point one way or another but we for me people are the one doing their own decision and choice. You are right that people nowadays are afraid to fight for what is right for them. I hope they will think about their future also especially that it is very hard to earn a living.
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@sarcos (201)
• New Zealand
17 Jul 07
When you becone an enployee you usually have a contract that usually has wether or not you can earn other money. I think it is okay if it is not in the same type of work.
And the contract should actually say that as well.
as long as they do not confict in any way go for it.
@friendship (2084)
• Canada
17 Jul 07
If you do another part-time job, it shouldn't have the same hours in your current part-time job and you should do it well. If your current employer is paying you for 5 hours from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m., you should do the job based on hours that your employer and you have agreed with. After 2 p.m., it will be up to you. Your current employer doesn't have a right to tell you what you're going to do after 2 p.m.
@Zelmarq (12607)
• Cebu City, Philippines
16 Jul 07
When the original job get affected and the performance, of course he needs to hae an assurance that he will be able to maintain and can carry out any other jobs without affecting the other.
@ireneortiz (272)
• Philippines
16 Jul 07
Yes this is right but my concern is the way she thinks. She really doesnt want her employees to have part time job even if she is doing well in her job.
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@Zelmarq (12607)
• Cebu City, Philippines
16 Jul 07
well thats another story, she does not have the right to stop anybody from earning more.
@senthil2k (1500)
• India
16 Jul 07
As far the performance of the employee is not affected during the working hours and the employee does ONLY the expected job in the working hours, then I think no employer should worry about the employee doing some extra jobs outside the working hours for their income....
@lexus54 (3572)
• Singapore
16 Jul 07
I think it depends on the terms of employment between the employer and employee. Some companies forbid an employee to be hired by another company while he/she is under their employment.
But picture these possible scenarios:
a. Employee works in a nightspot as a disc jockey from 9pm to 3am every night. Due to his long hours working both day and night, at times he comes late to work because he finds it hard to get up in the morning. At work (with the first company) he is occasionally tired due to lack of sleep and unable to give his full concentration to his primary job.
b. Boss (of primary company) says employee needs to work overtime in a certain month due to certain circumstances, eg. company participating in a tender. Or perhaps a meeting has to end later some days because of important matters to be discussed. Employee says sorry, he cannot stay overtime, because he has to have dinner, go home and change out, and start work at another place later in the evening. By not staying later, it affects others who have to work with him in the company.
If you were the employer, will you like the idea that this employee, by virtue of his moonlighting activities, is affecting work within the office, especially if he is part of a project group where teamwork is important? My guess is I don't think you will. That's probably why some companies have clauses in their terms of contract forbidding their employees to be also employed elsewhere while they are fulltime employees with their companies.
@snookumsnort (313)
• Philippines
16 Jul 07
My personal opinion is that an employer cannot explicitly say that employees are not allowed to do part-time jobs outside of company hours because what happens after office hours technically isn't their business anymore. But if the part-time job overlaps with regular office hours (for instance if the employee starts making calls regarding her part-time job when she's supposed to be working with another company) or if she begins to show signs of being distracted by the part-time job then I think the employer has a right to call the employees attention because it is beginning to affect the employee's work already.
@vampirestonez (1181)
• Pakistan
16 Jul 07
Well as far as I think that if an employee's part time job is not affecting his/her performance and that it is not conflicting with office hours then I do not see the reason as to why the employer should interfere. I mean what you are doing is before or after office hours and that activity should not be a concern for any employer unless ofcourse if it is conflicting with the normal office routine.
@bambi_doe (566)
• United States
16 Jul 07
There is no rule that says you can not have a second or third job. But personally I have worked three jobs before and it is no fun. I think that if you do not have a problem working all the time without rest then go for it but it can not interfear with your present job. If the employer has a problem with you getting another job to make ends meet then just speak up and say hey if I were to get a raise then maybe I would not seek outside work. Or ask if they arre afraid that you may better yourself. If you are a favorate or good worker then they will not hesitate on meeting your demands. Hugs