No shoes, No shirt, No Service... Do you agree with this rule?
By Jennifer21
@Jennifer21 (2476)
United States
July 20, 2007 3:07pm CST
Personally, I think this is ridiculous.
If I was a business owner, I would not turn down a customer.
I know some may say it is disrespectful, but I think not(unless it is a woman without a shirt:D).
How can it be disrespectful when they are willing to fork out their money?
I may be the only one who feels this way, but I personally do not find this disrespectful.
I mean, sometimes men may be coming back from the beach and want to buy something real quick.
Or it may be a hot day, so they don't want to put a shirt on.
I have seen many men without a shirt on, although I assume most people won't go out without shoes.
So, tell me your opinions on this.
Do you agree with this rule and find it disrespectful?
Or you okay with it?
Tell all.
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19 responses
@bigmacnc (142)
• United States
20 Jul 07
It is probably not up to owner, I think it is a health department regulation. I have been to places at a couple of beaches where they would serve if they had outside dining. But had sign that stated that was not allowed because of the state health department regulations. I have seen this in 6 beach states. I had to eat outside once because a kid in the party did not have shoes.
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@brothertuck (1257)
• United States
21 Jul 07
I've worked in the food industry, and it definitely is the health regulations.
There is enough to worry about with some of the recalls lately, but adding the fact you don't have shoes or shirt adds to the chance of spreading anything both to and from someone.
I remember one person who tried to get around the regulation by wearing his shoes strung together around his neck. Nice try but unfortunately doesn't work.
For the women, a bikini and sandles is legal. And an attraction for male customers. (had to add that)
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@AmbiePam (92714)
• United States
20 Jul 07
I agree with the no shoes, no shirt, no service policy. If they are coming from the beach, maybe they could have packed a shirt beforehand. Some places by the beach have cafes and stands that don't make as big a deal out of it than others. But it isn't hygenic for someone to be coming in and out of a restaurant with no shirt or shoes. Besides, what if it is a very heavy man with acne on his back. I couldn't eat with that right in my face. The restaurant would lose business, at least mine. LOL
@sunshinecup (7871)
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20 Jul 07
"a very heavy man with acne on his back"
OK, point made! YUCK!!!
The no shoes, is to protect the owner from liability. The store could be sued for a customer cutting his foot or slipping on the floor. So to me it makes sense to enforce a shoe policy. And as Ambiepam pointed out I can clearly see why we would want a shirt policy as well. "back acne"....man that is just nasty, LOL.
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@Jennifer21 (2476)
• United States
20 Jul 07
I guess you have a point on the 'heavy man with acne on his back."
That would surely turn custormers away.
But what about a nice ripped man with a sexy body, that would surely bring me in:D
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@jbb316 (1779)
• United States
27 Jul 07
I don't see the big deal about people wearing a shirt or shoes. Many people don't like to wear shoes unless they have to so why make them. If they wish to walk around on dirty floors with their bare feet they should be able to. Who cares if they have on shirt and shoes. Personally I wear shirt and shoes but I don't care if other people do or don't. This is just something for people to be petty about.
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@youdontsay (3497)
• United States
21 Jul 07
I never thought much about it. I always thought it was a health or safety issue.
But come to think of it, there are some people who just would look gross without a shirt. Maybe since they can't say people who look bad without a shirt can't come in so they just say no one can come in without one.
And I can't imagine wanting to go barefoot in a restaurant. The floors get SO dirty it is hard to tell what you want carry home with you.
But, really, does anyone know the rationale behind the rule?
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@huggiebear22 (2007)
• Canada
21 Jul 07
It all depends where the place is located if it located near a beach or park then they should expect that people will come in as they are for a quick soemthing but if it is located in a bbuisness area the last thing you want is to be eating you dinner while the guy who brother is a gorillia is chowing down across from you. So it all comes down to where the place is and if peopel are nto smart enought to figuire out what is required to sit adn in in some places then they should nto be allowed out in the first place.
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@smints8985 (1594)
• United States
21 Jul 07
Well of course if it was a beach side restaurant I would expect people or guys coming in straight from the beach with only board shorts on and that would probably be the normal scenario. Even a lot of sand on the floors. But the it is different is the restaurant is not located near any beach, I think it is somehow improper. And the main reason some business owner do not serve these people is that because they maintain a certain image or reputation for the restaurant. I believe some wouldn't mind, because they do not regulate such rules as to how the image of their business will be perceived.
I guess we should comply with store or restaurant policies, because afterall they need to maintain a certain reputation, and sometimes it even takes years and centuries just to establish a reputation.
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@filmbuff (2909)
• United States
21 Jul 07
This isn't so much about respect as it about health issues and making a place conducive to spend money at, as well as the insurance implications involved.
No Shoes: First off feet can carry lots of nasty stuff, such as fungus. Secondly, people could cut their feet on broken glass, or a lose tile or whatever and suddenly it is a lawsuit against the store or business, and there is blood involved so now you have to worry about things like HIV and hepatitus.
No Shirt: I find it ironic that it's okay for a guy to do it, but you a female think it would be wrong for a women to go around shirtless. Frankly what is good for one should be good for the other.
Again though you are dealing with a health issue. If they are not wearing a shirt they are likely hot and sweating. Sweat can carry nasty things, and drip everywhere if there is no shirt to catch it.
One also has to question the hygene of the person involved, because believe it or not a lot of people don't use deoderant, and don't bathe nearly as much as they should. The "no shirt" rule helps to keep some of those types out or at least wearing a shirt so the smell won't waft nearly as far as it would without the shirt to act as a filter.
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@raychill (6525)
• United States
21 Jul 07
I'd have to say I agree with the policy. as many others have already responded by saying "It's a health concern" I won't go into that aspect of it, though it clearly is due to a health concern. I also personally don't enjoy feet and don't like seeing peoples feet. I personally don't want to see people walking around shirtless and sitting in a restaurant without a shirt on having to see their hairy back or something while i'm trying to eat my food. It's kind of a courtesy too.
However, I thought you also might like this article if you don't agree with the policy:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/31084
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@wiccania (3360)
• United States
21 Jul 07
There's a restaurant on the Jersey shore (at least I think it's still there -- I haven't been in years), in Ocean City, I believe, where they don't require shoes. As a matter of fact, when you go in you take your shoes off. It's not an Asian restaurant, either. They give you a pair of paper slippers to wear. It's kind of cool.
For me it would depend on the type of business and where it's located. On hot summer days I could definitely overlook the no shirt thing. Dunno about the no shoes thing tho.
I once asked a shop owner about pants. He stared at me blankly. So a week or so later, I went in with no pants on (I wore a shirt over a bathing suit and shoes) and asked again. He was still dumbfounded.
@mrrtomatoe (800)
• Canada
21 Jul 07
I think it is more to do with the other customer in the store. I would have no problems serving people with no shoes, shirts or whatever, but I don't think other customers would want to eat in a restaurant where no one is wearing a shirt. It lowers the atmosphere of the establishment and will make a place less appealing you were to serve these people.
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@spiderlizard22 (3444)
• United States
21 Jul 07
The reason for that is because of santiary reasons. I agree with it. Nothing wrong with that. They should also refuse service to a really rude person like a jerk.
@shaggin (72131)
• United States
14 Jul 12
It depends where it is. I think in some places like stores and resturants its a law that people havec to wear shoes and shirts for safety and sanitary reasons. The store or resturant that went against the law and allowed people to come in who werent properly covered would get in trouble if they didnt make the people leave. When I was young I went into an ice cream/pizza place and wanted to order ice cream but they wouldnt serve me because I didnt have sandals on. I went out to the car crying. Personally if a guy is nasty looking as in really hairy or covered in sweat or has a huge stomach I wouldnt necessarily want to sit there and see that while I eat. I'm sure a lot of people feel that way and if they allowed a guy like that to sit there with his shirt off it could scare off customers who will go eat somewhere else where it isnt allowed.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
21 Jul 07
I work in a store that did post that sign. It is a generic sign. We no longer post it. guys would come in with their shirts slung over their shoulder, draped off their head...they did have a shirt! The shoes rule is important. There is frequently glass that gets broken.We do sweep it up but we are not perfect. For insurance purposes we do have to require that shoes be worn in the store. Without the signs of warning, if a person were to come into our store and cut themselves,they could sue. If we post the signs and they enter barefoot anyway....it is at their own risk.
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@Calais (10893)
• Australia
21 Jul 07
You never know who they and what they are about...There was instance many years ago a scruffy looking guy walked into the car dealership where I worked and brought a brand new car in cah ( he had just won lotto, an obviously it did not affect who he was)...He told us that he went to another car yard first and they either didnt look at him or looked down on him, and made him feel bad like he didnt belong there.
@ivyoon (673)
• United States
21 Jul 07
Depending on the type of place, I think it should be up to the owner. If it's a semi-classy place (or considers itself to be so) then I think there should always be a shirt rule.
However, we have a Bar and Grill across the street from us that refuses to serve men who are wearing sleeveless shirts (like muscle shirts and stuff) I think that's going a little too far. My brother was kicked out of there for wearing a muscle shirt, the manager saying something about "biker gangs"... I don't know, I think that's a little bit much.
@apricotrains (456)
• Melbourne, Australia
21 Jul 07
Where I work, no shoes & no shirt wil get you no service. I work at an amusement park & while it is right next to a beach you MUST wear shoes, you must wear a shirt or you WILL get yourself hurt. I can refuse to allow you onto a ride even if you have paid for a ticket just because you have no shoes or no shirt or both. It is there foe a SAFETY reason nothing more.
Customers should realise that we do things for that reason & not just to be mean.
@sandwedge (1339)
• Malaysia
21 Jul 07
"no shoes, no shirt, no service" would depends on where the eatery is. if its at the beach, then hey..burn the place down already!.
if is downtown NYC at noon, then ok.
reminds me of this islamic country i am in. i keep seeing the sign that says "SERVE NO PORK". man, i feel sorry for the father pig bringing out the mommy pig and the little piggies to dinner only to see that sign!