Does absence really make the heart grow fonder?
By laydlexius
@laydlexius (133)
United States
July 23, 2007 11:40am CST
I am in a tough spot. My baby's father that I had been with for 2 years left me and we have been apart for almost a year. He is finally realize what I meant to him and now is ready to come back. I am afraid because I do love him but don't want anything else to tear us apart. I have not been dating anyone since he left, but he is was in a relationship and told me he realized that he screwed up. He is really going through a hard time. I have not had a peace of mind for at least 9 mths and everytime we see each other we are that much more in love and feeling closer than ever. I am glad that we are going through this now before the children are aware, but should I let him come back. I know you guys can't make that choice for me but I would love to hear what you think.
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18 responses
@patgalca (18365)
• Orangeville, Ontario
23 Jul 07
You haven't said what broke you up in the first place. How did he screw up? Is he liable to do it again?
I was in love with a man when I got pregnant. I did not know who the father was but I told this man he was the father. We had broken up by this point (which is why I was unsure because I immediately started seeing someone else). We remained friends until we found out the paternity results after the baby was born. When we found out he was not the father, he cut himself out of my life completely. I never could get him out of my mind, though I tried dating other people. Then on my baby's first birthday he called me up and said he wanted to see her for her birthday. We slowly started seeing each other again. We did not sleep together right away. I like to think he found his way back to me. We will have been married ten years on August 2nd and he adopted that baby that wasn't his.
Like you said, we cannot tell you what to do as we certainly don't know all the details. But you have just heard one person's experience and perhaps you will hear more that may help you to decide. I do think you should take it slow, though. That was the best thing we could have done because he needed time to forgive me for pegging him for the father when he wasn't. And you probably need time to forgive your baby's father for whatever he did to screw up.
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@laydlexius (133)
• United States
24 Jul 07
Congrats first off. You know that's the awsome thing about love, is that you can forgive. We have been away from each other for almost a year, and when I thought things were at its worst, I forgave him. He saw that in me and that is why I feel he has figured out what love is. You can't just tell someone that without asking why. I truly believe that he appreciates me more now than he did when we first got together. I believe he respects me more as well as a mother and a woman. He could never understand the pain but he had to accept defeat to actually feel the pain I felt when he left. To have someone's heart is so powerful. I didn't know how much power I have. I don't want it trust me on that but the feeling that I have found that special person that I compliment and complete is crazy. I never tell people to stick a relationship out for the children's sake but if the unity is there go for it. I am glad to say that this is what is going on now for me and I am actually okay with it. I have grown myself and I see him growing each day.
@Perspectives (7131)
• Canada
23 Jul 07
Hi...before adding my comments let me say that I sincerely hope you and your husband find whatever answers you need to make the best decision for you and your family...whatever that is.
My hubby and I are life coaches and group leaders and work with relationship challenges all the time. Everyone thinks because we are in the field..that we never have any problems to work out. No, that is not the way it is for us...even with our training and skillsets. So having said all that I will add my perspective to your question.
Yes, I think abscence can make the heart grow founder. Sometimes the required 'spaces within togetherness' create a way to pause aned re-evalute who and what matters most in life. From the sound of your post I think you have already answered your own question..but are just looking from a little outside reassurance. Right?
The approach my husband I use in our work...and each other during conflicted or difficult transitions is to make sure you talk...before you act. By that I mean you already know what didn't work last time around..so what has changed? Do you feel confident that you both understand the cause and effect of your individual choices and collective choices that led to the breakup?
If you haven't cleared that up and talked it through and are ready to let it go and move on...I can assure you those issues will raise their head out of the ashes of the past...they always do. In my experience we all have life lessons to learn..and conflict can be a great teacher! My concern is that you both need to come back and be willing to create a 'fresh beginning.' That is the name of our company...so it fits. No one can have a fresh beginning while dragging the residue of unresolved issues behind them.
So to use your words, 'he screwed up...and is going through a rough time.' Does that mean he needs you to straighten our his mess again...are you feeling your 'rescuer' kick in..wanting to save him from himself? Or, do you feel you both have learned enough to put the past behind let it go...and put your energies into create the kind of life you want together now?
Sorry to hit you with some hard questions...but you asked. One of the things that we suggest couples do in our life coaching sessions when considering a reconciliation is this: Write down your individual needs and expections about they dynamics of your relationship. For example..if we are going to make this work I absolutely need you to commit to doing this.......then list them. He needs to do something similar if this idea is going to work over the long haul. Read them over and discuss them...make sure you both understand. If something seems unreasonable for either of you..talk it through. Make modifications...whatever. After you both clearly understand what you both need...and want...sign it. Then exchange them and put them in a safe place.
When you reconcile you will both have greater clarity about what you are coming back to. It also is a way of gently reminding each other when one of you drops the ball. It can be done in a fun way...but bring out your lifestyle commitment agreement...and say.."uhm...honey-baby...we need to talk...remember we agreed that point number two on our list was this. I have noticed that you are having difficulty in keeping up on it...is there so reason Sweetie? Perhaps there is something going on...can I assist..do we need to talk?"
Well I think you get the idea. The agreement is not meant to be an ultimatum. It is an emotionally responsible way for two people who love each other to mutually agree to certain things that will reduce frustration and help them live the best life possible. That is what we all want for each other and those we love.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do...whether you choose to use the suggestions or not I sincerely hope you have the clarity you need to live a happy life. It sounds like you've had a lot to work through over the last few years.
Cheers!
@laydlexius (133)
• United States
24 Jul 07
I am glad that you responded to this. I appreciate the encouraging word. I have had my good and bad days and it took a while to get to the point where I am at. For a long time we never talked about any of this. It's crazy because I always wanted to know why. A man does so much different from a woman and I didn't want to accept that. I finally broke down and said when he is ready to talk, I will listen. I took 6.5 months for him to start opening up. I thought when he decided to talk I was going to lash out at him, but I didn't. I understood everything and for the first time we had some clarity. It felt so good. He opened up a bit more in our next visit. It was so good that when I went to the doctor this past Friday, he was here on Sat. We have this amazing connection. I know he felt me because he usually talks to me when I call him. But he called me and Sat. he was here taking care of me. He is working now and it's in a different city. We need transportation and everything will be okay. I have waited this long huh? Well he wants to be finacially set when he gets here because we have 4 kids 2 together, so that's understandable. I had to pray about that decision but I am okay now. I hope things this time around will be great. I feel it already. He has apologized sincerly to me and I trust his word. It's not easy admitting you're wrong but he did. That's the first step. If there was anything else that I need is just a speedy return home but I will continue to be patient.
@34momma (13882)
• United States
25 Jul 07
as you said this is a choice you have to make for yourself. i know how hard it can be being a single parent. i know how it is to be without someone you love and care for. now i don't know what the two of you broke up in the first place, but i am not one for going back. life goes forward every single second of every day. and not only did you two brake up but he was with some else, that would be heart breaking for me. but i wish you the best
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@34momma (13882)
• United States
26 Jul 07
i think so many care because many of us have been in this very same situation. and it is not always easy to make a choice. you want to do what is right for you and for the children. sometimes you have to go with your heart and not forget your head, and some times you have to go with your head and not forget your heart. but it is true, if you choice to go back then you have to sit down and talk it out. let him or her know where you stand and what you are not going to put up with. then you move on from there. i wish her all the very best
@shakatoah (9)
• Australia
26 Jul 07
I was just reading through all these great comments and think it's wonderful that so many people care.
Granger and Academic are 110% right - we need to keep our heads screwed on these situations; find the balance between getting our emotional needs met and ensuring the (1) the best thing is being done for the children and (2) that the changes you're seeing are for real.
Trust is not handed to someone on platter, no matter how much we love them. When we've been betrayed, the trust has to be re-earned. That doesn't mean putting him through hell with insecurities and questions, but it does mean laying the cards on the table and making sure he understands that you're not just 'falling' back into the same situation and same old patterns. It takes a lot of work - from both of you - but then, I believe relationships are as much about hard work and commitment as they are about 'feeling'.
You seem to have your head screwed on...and you seem also to be very much in love. I pray you'll find the balance.
Namaste.
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@healer (1779)
• India
23 Jul 07
Distance makes a lot of differences in our life and we should try to avoid it if possible or try to maitain it in a different way to keep a relationship going strong. When we really love someone we don't want to part with them even for a single day and we know that when we try to be apart and we feel the love. You should take time and think about your prestent situation as if you do a mistake right now you are going to live with it for the rest of your life.
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@anonymili (3138)
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23 Jul 07
I'm not being funny but what makes you think he will stick around if you take him back? You might have been sitting around being single looking after your kid whilst he was out living it up with someone else. He's split up with her now and thinks "Maybe I'll go back to her - she'll take me back no problem!" I personally wouldn't trust a guy who left me and then tried to get back. There is no guarantee that he'll stick around for good this time and you could end up hurt 10 time worse if he leaves you again but at the end of the day, it's your decision whether you can trust him or not. Men do have a way of making us feel that they're very vulnerable when they want to - you say he's in a bad way, well he wants you to take him back so of course he's going to try every trick in the book to make you believe he's sorry for leaving you. A
nyway it's only my opinion, I'm only this way about it because I've seen many friends over the years who've taken a guy back mostly because they have kids together and not once has it worked out!
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@laydlexius (133)
• United States
25 Jul 07
You speak just like my best friend. She has had doubts about this from the beginning. I don't know his mind but a man is very sneaky and can be a good munipulator. I trust and believe that he realizes this will be his only opportunity to reunite with people that care about him unconditionally. So who knows. I can't read the future but I know someone who holds it and that what I need right now is that spiritual grounds to go forward in this relationship.
@wanderingstraw (5)
• China
24 Jul 07
You know you what you are gonna to do ! Don't u ?
so go ahead!
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@laydlexius (133)
• United States
26 Jul 07
I know right! Short sweet and straight to the point. I know what I want to do but I am actually afraid thats my only downfall.
@academic2 (7000)
• Uganda
25 Jul 07
lexius, in relationship sometimes we learn the hardway, we leave the honey on the table and go in for stale milk-when the stale milk sours, we get haunted by the decent sweet honey we needlessly abundoned on the table. You are a principled lady and I can see that inspite of the heavy and painful betrayal by your wana comeback lover, you stayed true to him. I know you still love him because there is something between you and him that you cant run away from-the baby!Take a little time and see if the turn around is for real-if it is for real, take him on and rebuild your love life again, hopefully, all will be well this time!
@wisedragon (2325)
• Philippines
24 Jul 07
That's the sad reality. Sometimes you have to set the person you love free, let him try dating or having relationships with other women. Sometimes that's the best way for him to appreciate you. I commend you for loving him enough to forgive him and welcome him back to your life. It really is hard to forgive someone for hurting you.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
24 Jul 07
With love anything is possible, laydlexius. You have some real thinking to do on this one. If a man walks out on you once it is always possible that he could do it again. You say that you have not been in another relationship while he was. This will probably come up again. It's not always easy for someone to unentangle themselves from a past relationship. Just think it over. I wish you all the best.
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@laydlexius (133)
• United States
25 Jul 07
I am afraid trust and believe me, but time is healer. I waited and waited wondering when he was going to ever talk about it, he had to realize that that girl doesn't care about him or his chidren. A real woman would have sent him back home. But she just didn't want him to be over here with us or see us at all. He fights with here many days and it will wear you down to try and take care of 2 houses. I silently observe and evaluate alot more now because of this and I have to say this is breaking him down big time.
@making_it_happen (87)
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24 Jul 07
I think if you love him then you should give it another shoot! You should talk it out. I feel communication is the key. Good luck!
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@laydlexius (133)
• United States
25 Jul 07
I appreciate your response. Its so hard to see the person you feel complete with continue to walk away. Whatever the reason maybe, for my sake I have gained a backbone. Since this subject has come along I have some updated information. I will post that really soon. I believe that people need people. We get in arguements and say that magic phrase "I don't need you!" But oh that is such a lie. We need that person that makes us feel brand new everytime we see each other. Waking up in the morning next to that person feels like nothing else could be better. But when its not there anymore, its the worse feeling in the world. You can't run from it. You have to tough it out and realize what is important to you. I have cherished the moments we have shared together and it is only through the grace of God that he has allowed us to reunite.
@shakatoah (9)
• Australia
25 Jul 07
You sound like such a lovely, deep thinking and feeling woman. I keep reading in your posts how you 'feel' this is right and you 'feel' the depth of the connection you have with your man. It seems to me that when you have that, it's a rare gift, and I believe as you do, that you need to trust it.
No one knows what's best for you except yourself and God...and of course, if the father of two of your children wants to be part of the plan - then that's great. I think you already know you need to proceed with some caution but also, once the decision is made, you need to trust him again. There's no such thing as 99% trust. You either trust 100% or you don't trust at all. What I'm saying is that if you feel such peace after much thought and prayer, then you're on track. Place your trust in this man and in your relationship again - and take it from there. That's about all any of us can ever do really.
Wisdom dictates that you quietly keep an eye out for any warning signs and that you discuss these things with him in a loving manner the moment they arise. You're quite right that men often do things quite differently to women and this can cause a lot of confusion. Then again, it gives us an opportunity to show them a different way of behaving, of confronting issues and communicating..and it also gives us an opportunity to put ourselves aside sometimes and understand a more masculine way of thinking and doing. It's like a dance really, though most people go through the steps like it's a prize fight instead..where there are no winners.
I say all the best to you. No one can predict the outcome of events but I think it's safe to say that whatever you go through, it will be for your spiritual development and that wherever you are at the moment, it's exactly where you're meant to be. In the end, honouring love is all that really counts.
Long distance relationships are particularly difficult and I should know - the love of my life is thousands of miles across the ocean. The only thing that keeps us going is consistent daily contact and communication. We express our feelings, positive and negative, deeply and often. This time apart is an opportunity to go deeper into ourselves and into 'us' by really thinking about who we are, what we want and how we're going to achieve it - TOGETHER. Mind you, we've had enough, believe me! It's really, really tough. The best way I can describe it is that it's like 'grief' - we actually grieve for the absence of one another. I'm sure you feel this too. Please know you're not alone.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
24 Jul 07
I can see in you that you are still very much in love. I had been in the same situation months before. Though we don't have kids.
He had someone else while we were together. I was angry and hurt but I love him. He asked for forgiveness I didn't think of anything else but to forgive him. Time were tough, we weren't together but we were 'friends'. I tried so much to cut off communication but I can't help it, not having to know how he is, was more torture than thinking that he has someone else.
But now, a few months passed. He is back. And this time it's different. I feel you, I can't explain the feeling. I trust him but I have doubts, I love him but I'm afraid (maybe he'll do it again), so many questions in my mind, so many people saying I shouldn't be foolish once again. It's really confusing.
But one thing is for sure, I love him. I am willing to give it a shot. I'd rather be told I was foolish than not to try once again, for I know I don't want to live this life with regrets that I didn't do my best for a love I felt so true.
But be cautious though, there is a thin line between love and stupidity. If I were you I'd give him chance, but let him know that chance comes with a price. If ever he does it again, kick him out for good. Life is tough, second-chances are limited.
=)
Good luck!
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@granger1900 (125)
• United States
24 Jul 07
Wow. You've gotten some really good advice and perspectives so I'll just suggest focusing on the best interests of the children. That means being a cautious and responsible parent. If you rush back into a relationship based on need, chances are the relationship will fall apart.
REGARDLESS, of whether you and the baby's father are romantically involved or married, it is in the best interests of the children to parent as partners. You and your child deserve a co-parent who is mature, self-sufficient and self-reliant, one who respects you and your emotional needs.
AS for trusting one's heart, it is much more than wanting and feeling. There must be a proven track record for him to deserve your trust or you are asking for a world of hurt and that will interfere with your child's rights to parents who can communicate with each other in healthy ways.
The answer is pretty simple if you exercise patience and restraint. Pose it to him in terms of the child being a priority more important than romantic exploration between the two of you and establish some groundrules and boundaries before jumping headfirst.
If he isn't willing to put the child first and wants to focus solely on his needs and hard times, then you will only end up in an unhealthy parent/child relationship with him as the child and you as the parent/his rescuer.. and sooner or later kids leave home. Be careful.. Your child needs you to take care of his/her mother. Your child and you deserve to be treated well and with respect.
@laydlexius (133)
• United States
24 Jul 07
Thank you for the response. I have to actually say the first things he stresses is he should have never left his children. We have a total of 4 but 2 are his. We have been through hell and back. I respect him for acknowledging them. That is what got us together in the first place. Haha! But on a serious note, I never, ever, questioned his love and affection for the children. He is an excellent father. He did slack off on providing for them when he left but he knew that I wasn't going to say much. I guess he saw it for himself. The girl he is with has not been a real woman herself either. Any woman that really loves a man, loves his children. She never tried to make him care for them or force him to see them, but she was worried about me. Insecure! I think! But he told me that she doesn't love him, because if she did, knowing the situation she would have made him come back home. She just knew he was someone elses and tried to hurt me. You see I am very strong and it doesn't take much for me to overcome any situation. I don't do it alone, I have my heavenly Father to protect me. I am glad we went through this now because we as well as the children will benefit. They love their daddy and are patiently waiting for his return. I am happy to know that he does cherish a relationship with them.
@nickspinky (198)
• United States
24 Jul 07
I have recently went through a problem like this we do not have children together but he was caught cheating and decided that he thought he fell in love with her. Well when he seen that I had moved on and was doing ifne without him which inside I was not I really was torn up but he seen me out on dates and realized what he had lost. The hardest part was the girl was my best friend of course which isnt that the way things go. Well he began to call me more and more and want to come to my house to talk about things than one day he broke down and told me how he had messed up and made the biggest mistake of his life. It took me a few weeks after that to I dont want to say forgive but open up and try to start over since than we have been great but it did make me grow a little colder inside because the situation was pretty screwed up. I told him how I will try to forgive what he has done but I will never forget but everyday that passes by it gets better and I am now engaged and I know it can always happen again but I dont let my guard down I realized what I let him do but you cant stay mad at someone forever especially when you know that is the person you want to spend the rest of your life with. I hope this helps you at all and whatever your heart feels you should go with.
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@shyrecxz1230 (3)
• Philippines
24 Jul 07
we have the same situation when u said the the father of your baby left you and you've been apart for almost a year.but we but different reasons why he left me.It's because he MUST leave us for the reason that he's going to work abrod to give us a better future.you never stated in your discussion the reason why he left you.what's the cause of your separation?because i will it help you deside whether to accept him again or not.If it is better to stay off as friends or come back to each other's arms.beacause i believe that love is not the only reason why two people are meant to be together it's more on a respect w/ each other as a person,as a parent of your child.hope i gave u some bit of advice.have a nice day...
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
24 Jul 07
I think that would all depend on how you broke up in the first place. I do believe that the heart grows fonder when you are apart from someone you love, but theres got to be more than just love in the relationship. It must of been hard for you to be apart on your own and with your child, knowing that he was in another relationship. Did he keep in touch with you? with his children? or was he completely shut off?
There's lots of questions you need to be asking yourself before you even consider letting him back in (which I'm sure you have been). Only you will know what is best for you and your child and only you can make that decision. Good luck and I hope it works out for you!
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@navtech (1773)
• India
26 Jul 07
Dear Laydlexius, Since both of you love each other there is no point delaying the matter. Go ahead and accept him. Your future life will be more happy and pleasant since you both of your understood well what is really needed in your life. Your child will also be very happy to have real father.
@delords (41)
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24 Jul 07
i understand what you are passing through but since you said you love him very much and he really wants to get back to you,you really should give him a second chance to prove himself to you,also try to always tell him how much he meant to the kids and how the kids feels without their father with them.
@laydlexius (133)
• United States
26 Jul 07
So very true. I believe that time does heal and maybe that is why I feel the way I do. I was upset and angry for a long time about this but I had to understand that no one is perfect. I thought that we would never talk about getting together again, but I was lying to myself because the feeling was always there. I try to see if thing could be fixed but I wouldn't let the problem actually fix itself. But things will work out for the best I pray.