usa
By raulgc01
@raulgc01 (306)
Philippines
August 26, 2007 8:28am CST
I've been to the United States particularly in California only twice, but i can't stop myself in noticing (in public transports) that there are lots of Americans who seems to live in their own little different worlds. (without cellular phones, blue-tooth or i-pod)Some looks so depressed and sits queitely in one corner, some laughs and talks alone, some won't stay in one place at a time, etc.
Is this one of the by-products of a highly industrialized country, a super complex society that turns its citizens to this?
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8 responses
@raychill (6525)
• United States
26 Aug 07
I think it's kind of funny, ironic, that the first person who responded talking about American does not even live in the country. I think it's funny when people think they KNOW America period if they don't live in our Country.
America is effed up. No doubt about that. We have our culture problems just as every other country in the world has.
You've said you've been to particularly California in Public Transports... and I'm sure you know, but that is not, by any means, a way to really see Americans and judge how we are.
I don't think Americans are the way we are because we're a highly industrialized country. I don't think we're like this because we're a super complex society. I don't know if you can really point a finger at any ONE thing and make that a blame for our country. We are who we are. People everywhere are who they are.
I think a lot of people envy America and at the same time completely judge America and it's citizens and I think it's completely unfair to try and point a finger at us and tell us we are this way or that way and it's because of this or that. We are, like any other country, who we are because it's the world (world...metaphorically speaking) that we grew up in.
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@Cammeel1 (372)
• United States
26 Aug 07
As I read the opening discussion and then the frst response I was thinking the same as you raychill. I suppose it would be just as easy for me to judge another country. For example, when I think of France ( which I have only visited once) I think of the people are rude, stuck up, and boorish. Is this ncessarily true? Yep, it sure is! But only in some circumstances.
This would be the same with Americans. In some aspects in our country all the above would be held true. But as you stated there is no one hing that we can lay a finger to and say THAT is our problem.
I would suppose that if I were visiting the US and found myself on a trolley in SanFran for example, I would probably have some negative judgements come to mind for some of the people I would see as the writer here did.
My question to you would be this though
when you were on that public transportation and saw those who looked depressed or alone, did you not see those who also looked happy and were enjoying life?
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@raychill (6525)
• United States
27 Aug 07
yeah well that's what I'm saying. You can't judge anyone based on one or even a small few visits. One state...one town or even 2 or 4 cities and towns. You can't judge ANYONE based on anyone else, because everyone no matter where they live and who they are... are individuals.
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@raulgc01 (306)
• Philippines
27 Aug 07
my apologies, i don't mean to offend anybody and i don't mean that americans are like that in general. you were right i envied the americans then, from the american movies i have seen, the speeches of the great americans i have listened to, the american revolution and biographies of great americans i was able to read, the mesmerizing advertizement of american products, etc. etc, maybe i just expected too much. thanks for the reply
@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
26 Aug 07
I do see what he's seeing (I live here by the way just check the profile). I see people absorbed in their material wealth all the time. Looking at their cellphone for extended periods on end, ipods, shopping constantly, even absorbed in jewelry on occasion. It even happens at the home too, people absorbed in with TV, computers, music and plenty of other things.
I also see other instances where people aren't in their own worlds (community groups, parent organizations, religious gatherings, even randomly in public). There are also people with enough sense not to let the self-absorbed, me-me-me society and thinking get to them.
Just my observation, there are varying degrees to the comment you posed Raul.
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@mkirby624 (1598)
• United States
26 Aug 07
It's a fact that Americans are some of the loneliest people on the earth.
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
26 Aug 07
Though short and to the point and in some cases wrong, I get what you are saying. People go home to their odd tacky box houses 30 miles out and barely interact with anyone unless they absolutely have to. Some don't even know their neighbors. Of course this isn't the standard and there are plenty of cases in the states where what I described is not the case.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
12 Sep 07
I think you will find that this is mostly in the very urban areas. In my area, very rural, its very common to say hello and smile to a perfect stranger you pass on the street ( we have no public transportation in my area). It is a product of urban living. It's alomst a calous that develpos and is a result of being around so many people and sometime an area full of urbam problems, that people draw in to themselves, keep to themselves and don't make contact with other people around them out of fear or mistrust. But as I stated that youll find in the more city type area.
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@profitline (82)
• Singapore
27 Aug 07
In every country,there will be a chance to meet such an area that are surban cities and do not have such technology and live in a very simple life style.I personal have thought of such a retirement place in mind and i think such a place do exist and will be good to live in
@Bhalchandra (5)
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27 Aug 07
This a multifacted and a very vast subject. This cannot be explained, in full, within this short space. However, I shall try to touch only one point here. This is because of money minded structure of U.S. economy. As an economy, U.S.A., as a nation, is the richest in the world. However, everybody is not rich. Just like in our country, there are a majority of people who are poor or in lower middle income group. Because of this fact people, there, are facing multifarious problems. Everybody has to struggle and work hard for their livelyhood. Maximum members in a family have to go out for their earnings. As such, it is said that there is everything in U.S.A. but there is no affectionate relative/acquaintance. Family & social life, there, are absent to a greater extent. This has caused psychological effect on the citizens there. Those who are benefitted are joyous and laughing. Those who are not become introvert and depressed. So many other things can be discussed on this subject.
@HomeCooked (94)
• United States
27 Aug 07
I have felt the same way. Having lived in NYC for 6 years, then moving to Fayetteville NC,(my husband was in the army). I felt I had a problem connecting with others. I still have difficulty, I thought it was just being a jaded Newyorker, its nice to know it isnt just me.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
26 Aug 07
I do not see what you are seeing. I have not being to California, but where I live here I do not see a lot of depressed people and people talking to themselves. I live in the South and I do take public transportation sometimes. Yes their are people with their Ipods, cell phone etc, but there are people who greets you with a smile and say hello. We are all individuals and everyone have their own unique way of doing things. I am not sure where you are from but I am sure in your area there are some depressed, lonely people, people with mental issues. I don't think people should make generalization about a country as whole just by one or two experience.
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
26 Aug 07
I'm Canadian 73 years old, and I live in Ontario Canada in the summer. I own a house in South Texas USA, and I live there for 5 months in the winter. I have been doing this for over 10 years. I have loads of American friends and none of them are depressed,or anti-social, and they don't talk to themselves in public transport. These are some of the best people in the world. All I can say is that this Super Complex Society turns its citizens into Great People!
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