What would you do??
By Savvynlady
@Savvynlady (3684)
United States
September 2, 2007 6:27pm CST
Because of my work schedule, I am not able to go to church like I want to, but I urge and tell my daughters to go to church. Yesterday, my eldest went to church. Unknown to me, she wore a pants that I bought her to wear for a event at her school even though I urged her to just find a skirt, but alright. She went to church yesterday and one of the church ladies admonished(in view of a better word)her on wearing pants in church. My daughter got so upset that she burst out crying. Now it's one thing to tell, but another if your feelings is hurt. Well, some folks saw her crying, found out what had happened, and made the lady come back out to get this straight. Needless to say, she apologized to my daughter and not only that, took her to the store and bought her a whole new wardrobe for church. Two new dresses, one skirt with a top to match, shoes and some perfume. And these didn't come from no regular Walmart or everyday store, these came from a nice department store named Belk's. I tell you, although I was grateful, I was also real hurt because though Lord knows I want to , I just can't do it. So with that, what would you do? would you do likewise? elaborate if necessary.
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26 responses
@here2learn (210)
• United States
3 Sep 07
I hate when people expect people to come a certain way to the church. That is why some people do not want to go. Christians should do better because we have to represent God. God does not care whether you wear a skirt or pants to church. No one is too plain for God's love. I can understand wanting to make going to church a special event and dressing up for it but if you are more worried about your appearance than the reason you are going then what is the point. As far as your daughter, I hope she is not too hurt. I would just like to mention I wear jeans to church all of the time, some churches dont' care and others do. I just try to pay attention to Jesus and forget about how shallow the people are being. I am glad your daughter got a new wardrobe and as long as her stuff isnt' too provocative, i think she can choose what she wears to church. Even if all she had was mini skirts God will still love her, i think God doesn't want people to dress in a way that tempts others tho so noone should dress like that anyway. But He won't stop loving you because of it. I guess my point is if I were your daughter I would wear what is comfortable to go to church. If i was the lady I would be ashamed of myself and if i were you I would just keep encouraging my daughter to go to church and to go to hear about Jesus and connect with Him and to sometimes ignore the church people.
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@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
3 Sep 07
I really like and so did my daughter when I read it for her. I thank you for your response and at present, my daughter is enjoying a new wardrobe and soon a new hairdo too. thanks again.
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@miamilady (4910)
• United States
3 Sep 07
I don't know what I would do.
That was pretty bold of that lady. First for approaching your daughter and then for taking ehr shopping. The woman apologized and then took her shopping to buy more appropriate clothes?
What did she apologize for?
I'm sure the woman thought she was doing something nice. Maybe she was. But, I also feel like she was pushing her belief about how your daughter should dress.
I've always had a hard time with people who try to tell me what I should and should not do. Especially people not in my own family.
Again, I'm sure the woman thought she was doing the right thing. Maybe. But it bothers me nonetheless.
What an awkward situation to be in.
I wouldnt want to seem ungrateful, but I wouldnt want her appointing herself as my daughters "fashion police" (for lack of a better word) without my consent.
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@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
3 Sep 07
Miamilady,
It was an awkward situation for me, and though I am glad that she got the clothes, I wish I was the one to have bought it. My mother was quite upset about it and had some words with the lady as well, but me myself, since I wasn't there or haven't seen her, I cannot say much on this.
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
3 Sep 07
I'd let it flow over me.. I think she did it to make amends.. and perhaps to get your daughter to wear what she thinks is best for church. But I'll tell ya, I know of plenty of churches, that aside from decency have no sort of expectations when it comes to what someone wears to service. If I was your daughter I'd probably wear the clothes she gave as a gift sometimes, but I would wear other outfits too! Not to be rebellious, but to keep my "freedom in Christ" intact.
:) blessings!
@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
3 Sep 07
Flowerchilde,
Your comments on this as well as to others were pretty refreshing and I appreciate it as well. Peace and Many Blessings to you!!
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
14 Jan 08
Well obviously your daughter wore the pants to Church because she did not feel her skirts or dresses good enough and the other Church lady did not understand. She thought she just did not want to wear any. Sure she should not have yelled at her - but it is understandable if the climate was not that cold. I would say that she should have taken her aside quietly and told her that her outfit was inappropriate. But it was a good thing that she took your daughter to the department store and bought her a new outfit for Church.
We do not have that problem up here because when it does get very cold, some of the ladies need to wear pants to keep their legs warm. I do not have enough money to buy an outfit for someone else, but I would never yell at them.
All I can say is to ask God to grant you the ability to forgive this lady for being so nasty.
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@sojournseeker (1244)
• United States
30 Nov 07
Church should be meant as a place an individual can go without anticipating judgment, resistance, disgust, or some type of outwardly expectation for appearance when all someone wants to do is have a relationship with their higher power.
Great the devotional and traditionally-butt kissing b - - - h, bought some clothes for your daughter; a second slap in the face that you can't provide.
But hey isn't your Lord supposed to be providing cause s - - t she could of walked in naked !
I am sorry it just burns me up when a translater between you and your Lord has an issue even something so ridiculous as attire, and for what to humiliate and show some power? Its wrong and I feel bad for your daughter but maybe shouldn't sling so much mud at organized religion . . .
sharing the light,
Miss Erica Hidvegi, the Enlightenment Advisor, B.A. Psych/M.A. Transpersonal Studies- Cnslng/Author, Artist, Photographer, Entrepreneur & Freelance extraordinaire
@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
30 Nov 07
Ma'am,
Whoa, that is some strong language here. I feel you however and it made me think of how this situation came to be. True, church should be a place for you to meet your higher power, not a fashion meet or swap so to speak although I won't lie, been there, seen it and done it too. It is now that I truly understand and respect why you have a church. It's to meet with your maker. Instead it went to another level. Thank You for your response.
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@angel_of_charm (4134)
• Philippines
3 Sep 07
if i was you, i will be upset because i know i wanna give my daughter the best things i would but i just cant as of now..she should have say sorry and buy her some stuff but not the whole stuff like that..but i am thankful she bought it for my daughter at lest she can have those i cant give her but i just dunno what would my daughter feel about it..she might come to thinking why that lady can buy her those that i cant..i'm sorry if my opinion is not helping but if i am a your shoe that's what i will feel..
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@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
3 Sep 07
i don't believe that women have to wear a skirt in church all the time unless if there is a special events and we have been informed in advance of the dress code... as long as we dress appropriately (neat and tidy), it is OK to wear a pant to church... our heart is more important rather than our appearance when we go to church... i'm sorry to hear about what happen to your daughter... i hope she is not too hurt and does not stop to go to church because of the incident...
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@magnet (2087)
• United States
17 Oct 07
I think that the lady was out of place to make that comment to your daughter but she realized that she was wrong and she apologized and felt bad about it. I would forgive her for her ignorance.Now if a person goes to a place of worship dressed in revealing clothes that's a different story it could cause distractions and you know what I mean.I'm just not bold enough to tell someone what to wear. I really don't care. I think that she just wanted to be a blessing to your daughter by buying her the clothes. I would tell her thank you and tell my daughter to wear what she feels comfortable wearing to church. God wants you to come as you are. At our church some people like to dress up. I like to dress up anyway in church or out of church, but I would also feel comfortable wearing jeans to church if I wanted to. I went to church with jeans,skirt,dressed pants,several times.It does not matter.If someone would have the nerve to say something to me about how I'm dressed I would have to walk it off before I lose my religion up in there. I would have to say Lord help me not lose my temper.Some of the teenagers don't like to get dressed up so they wear their school clothes to church. I don't see any harm in that. At least they are going to church.
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@phon4u (2215)
• Laos
3 Sep 07
It was not your kids fault if they didn't know the church rules. They felt ashamed, didn't they? Most of my students went to tour to the temple, they had to rent the skirts outside the temple because they didn't know. Although a foreign woman I saw wearing simple skirt covering outside of the pants.
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@babybluebellebj (413)
• Philippines
24 Oct 07
in my own experience, having a hectic schedule in school, i try my very best to attend mass/go to church every Sunday...coz this is the only day that He needed me or want to be with me...and everytime im in the church, i felt everything is fine, nothing to worry about, i felt no stressed in my works, i feel alright and happy...giving one hour to Him is not that much to spend leaving your work coz He spent all His time guiding you, giving you what you needed to live...He only asking for an hour or two to be with Him, to hear His words...and i believe that i can do anything if im with Him...
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
4 Sep 07
Nothing wrong with wearing pants to church. You are not there for fashion or clothing, you are there to Praise and Worship together as one for the Lord. That is one of the many reasons why i stopped attending church because of people who judge others for the way they looked and it has nothing to do with fellowship and praising God. Sorry but in my opinion, clothing should not matter as long as it is decent and respectful. Nothing wrong with wearing pants in my book!
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
3 Sep 07
The outcome in this situation was a kind of blessing, Savvy. I don't approve of wearing pants in church myself. I might not have been as direct as this lady, but she was telling your daughter right. It was very kind of her to try to appease your daughter by treating her to the new outfit. I would look upon this as a blessing-and a lesson your daughter learned. I know that most people these days have no sense of proper etiquette, but children should be taught these things while they are young.
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@tdbrower1969 (1242)
• United States
3 Sep 07
I know that in my church, there are a lot of the elder ladies that only wear dresses to church, but I don't think it is written in the church handbook that you have to wear dresses. I am surprised with so many women today wearing dress pants that someone said something to your daughter. I would be upset, and I think it was a little elaborate of someone to buy her a wardrobe to wear to church. Although, maybe it was just her way of apologizing. I am sorry that this happened to your daughter, and I am sorry that she felt so bad and cried. I hope that in the future the lady is nicer to your daughter.
@saradachodagam (22)
• India
21 Dec 07
hello
it is nice that you are worried about daughter not making it to the church.
your excuse is work schedule. it is ok
But what about making a prayer during that dinner.
Even it is also not possible then let you and your daughter start prayer just before going to bed. or just when you wake up. God is asking you to pray at your heart but not in a church. Do not worry too much. Pray to god. He will change every thing including your work schedule. First you start going to church and expect your daughter too
yours
sarada
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@patgalca (18390)
• Orangeville, Ontario
3 Sep 07
Pay it forward. Some day the opportunity will arise when you will be able to do something good for someone else. Then you will do it and you will have "returned" the favour by doing the same for someone else. Just send the lady a lovely thank you card and tell her that you will pay it forward.
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@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
29 Oct 07
Patgalca,
That makes practical and good sense to me. Thanks for your comment. I am tempted to make it best response.
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@sunshinelady (7609)
• United States
10 Feb 08
Years ago it was unheard of women to wear pants in church. Not anymore. A women can wear pants or a dress it doesn't matter so first of all the women was out of hand to say that to your daughter. People should realize that a person comes to church to worship God and it shouldn't matter what they have on. I think that the women apologizing was enough. She didn't have to buy anything although it sounds like she felt really bad. I would sit my daughter down and just explain to her that to ignore when people say things like this. That just to focus on going to church to praise God.
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@vokey9472 (1486)
• United States
3 Sep 07
I think I would be mad at the lady for having the idea that she had the right to judge the apparel of someone else. God doesn't care what you wear to church as long as you are there to worship him. I was taught never to judge what someone wears to church. You wear the best that you have and if that is jeans and a t-shirt then that is what you wear. God is going to let you into heaven because you wore some designer dress to church every Sunday. He is going to judge you based on the life you led. That woman who made your daughter cry should be ashamed of herself.
As for her buying your daughter some clothing, don't be hurt or insulted. Just say thank you and accept the gesture for your daughter's sake. I am sure the lady meant well when she took your daughter shopping. I do have to ask though, if this woman is someone you know closely as she felt comfortable enough to take your child shopping without your permission. That is the only thing that might upset me, if someone I was not close to took my child shoppign without my permission.
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@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
29 Oct 07
She is someone I know quite well through church and is quite vocal about her beliefs.
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@tuffy999 (794)
• Philippines
3 Sep 07
the most important thing is that the lady apologized to your daughter, and that's already a big step. and for her to bring your daughter shopping is her way of making amends to the way she reacted to how your daughter was dress in church, and for scolding her.
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@crazed_moma (1054)
• United States
3 Sep 07
I'm glad the lady realized what she did was WRONG and made up for it. :) I'm glad your daughter took the initiative to go to church to begin with. If I didn't drag my kids kicking and screaming they wouldn't go. ;) Seriously it's more of whining and moaning.
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@crazed_moma (1054)
• United States
3 Sep 07
Just wanted to add, IMO as long as she's trying to look presentable she's fine. I think people at church should realize not every one is on the same social standing.
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@BayleighGray (4334)
• United States
3 Sep 07
Im confused.....do people go to church to worship Our Lord and Savior or is it a fashion show?????
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
4 Sep 07
Me too! what has clothes got to do with Praising the Lord ?!?!?!
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