Why do Catholics believe in statues?
By mermaid911
@mermaid911 (798)
Philippines
9 responses
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
11 Sep 07
NO there is not zing. Jesus wasn't just someone that lived a long time ago ... HE IS God!
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@raijin (10345)
• Philippines
4 Sep 07
Catholic practice it because they were told so by their forefathers, those who worships false-idols and man-made figures. This is the reason why I don't go to churches, I'd rather pray inside my room and praise God with the prayer He thought to us.
Many will get mad at this post of ours, but this is the truth and what is already written in the Bible.
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@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
4 Sep 07
tradition wich believe it or not Jesus would frown on for he said
Matt.15:3 Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?
exodus 20:4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
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@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
6 Sep 07
yet are your statues not graven images ??the commandment strictly forbids even the """making""" of them!i dont recall if it states anything about having to just worship them for me thier mere presence is a sin!
@raisingsaints (217)
• United States
6 Sep 07
True, traditions are frowned upon when they take the place of God and his commands. To a Catholic, a statue does not stand in the place of God, but glorifies Him even more by recognizing His work through us. In other words, it has nothing to do with the person(represented by the statue) and everything to do with God's grace given to the person. In building the statue, we publicly recognize and proclaim God's graces in sinful humans. It's a visual reminder much like the crucifix is the visual reminder of Christ's sacrifice and the cross is the visual reminder of redemption through Christ's rising.
One other thing about traditions...St. Paul, in 1 Corinthians 11:2, praises the Corinthians for holding fast to the traditions handed down to them.
Exodus 20:4 is speaking specifically of making graven images for the purpose of idol worship, which is strictly forbidden by the Catholic Church.
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@raisingsaints (217)
• United States
10 Sep 07
I would assume then that you have no crosses, crucifixes, statues/pictures of angels, no images of Jesus, Mary, Joseph, the Apostles, God the Father, a depiction of a dove as the Holy Spirit. Look at any children's bible, Catholic or Protestant, and you will find it loaded with pictures of Moses, Abraham, Jesus, the heavens, and sometimes even demons.
Exodus tells us not to make any likeness of things on the Earth. Do you have pictures of yourself, your relatives, your house, animals, etc. Inside the Lincoln Memorial in DC is a statue of Abraham Lincoln. There is also Mount Rushmore in South Dakota, Paul Bunyan and his Ox somewhere in MN, and Philadelphia is filled with statues.
Do you consider any of the aforementioned "graven images", therefore sinful? If not, please explain what you believe to be the difference between these and Catholic religious art.
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@raisingsaints (217)
• United States
6 Sep 07
Catholics have statues (or pictures, paintings, etc.) to remind us of our brothers and sisters in Christ who are living in the glory of God in Heaven.
Most of the statues in Catholic churches are of the Holy Family and the Apostles. Other Christians would agree with Catholics that the souls of these people are now in Heaven. There may also be statues of the patron saint of the parish, also believed by Catholics to be in Heaven.
Catholics do not pray to the statues. We ask the Saints to pray for us.
You state that there has been a lot of controversy...from who?
@mermaid911 (798)
• Philippines
13 Sep 07
from people of different religions and beliefs. Just like the one you had with some mylotters in the discussions above.
@raisingsaints (217)
• United States
14 Sep 07
Ok, I thought maybe you meant among Catholics, like disagreements among Catholics about priestly celibacy.
I don't really consider my discussions with non-Catholics as controversy. My purpose is to eliminate misconceptions and to properly explain why Catholics do what we do. For somebody of another religion to disagree with me just means that we believe different things. Although I suppose it's controversy in that only one of us can be correct:)
@agnescav (566)
• United States
5 Sep 07
They are not praying to these statues. They are asking them to pray for them. It is called the intercession of the saints. They believe that the saints were chosen by God to be close to Him. While it may seem like idol worship, it is not. It is really no different than asking your friends to pray for you.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
12 Sep 07
I am sorry. It did come across as you supporting it.
I made my first communion at that age. I wasn't confirmed until I was a teen. As soon as I was confirmed; I left the church.
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@mermaid911 (798)
• Philippines
13 Sep 07
Thanks for taking the time to explain things to me even when you're not a catholic. its nice how one person like you can understand how catholics think even when you have decided to let go of that religion. Just one question: If you were born in a Protestant family (for instance) and they raised you as one, would you have converted to Catholicism later on? Just a thought.
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@agnescav (566)
• United States
12 Sep 07
I was also raised Catholic and my entire family, in-laws and all, except for me, is still Catholic. I left, not because I think the system of beliefs is necessarily wrong, but because of the age at which we were confirmed. It is wrong to ask someone to promise he will live a certain life when he is seven or nine years old. All of that being said, I was not defending this practice. I was explaining as well as i could to the person who asked the question.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
4 Sep 07
Hi mermaid911,
I really don't know when this tradition started, but I think that is what it is, a tradition. Their family has always done it and so it must be right..But because someone has always done something doesn't make it Biblical, just mans tradition..
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@mermaid911 (798)
• Philippines
13 Sep 07
hi carmelanirel! not all traditions need to be followed but we have to know the meaning behind it before we follow whatever it is. Thank you.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
11 Sep 07
Sadly they are taught that worshipping the statues (and praying and lighting candles in front of is worship) is not idol worship. They make up reasons why it is ok.
They are taught that they are just representation of the people they are praying to. That too they say they aren't doing ... they say they aren't praying to any saints but rather asking the saint to pray for them.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
14 Sep 07
The idea of statues as representations has been around since mankind began practically. You're ancient Eygptians, Babylonians, Greeks and so forth had statues as a "visual" form of their gods/goddesses, to make their gods/goddesses more real in some aspect...No one in all of time has actually seen "god" So having statues of the saints and of the Virgin Mary and Christ are holdovers to this idea of having some kind of visual aid of one's beliefs...I don't believe as one MyLotter put it that statues are a form of worshiping false idols..how can paying respects or worshiping at a statue be false?? We all need some kind of visual aid in many cases to make our beliefs real and having statues is one of them
@Missmwngi (12915)
• Nairobi, Kenya
22 Oct 15
When you carry around the photo of you lover or your child or someone you love and you kiss that photo;you do it because it represents someone you love and during the kissing the imagery of that person is created in your mind. So you simply use the photo to help you create an imagery of that person in mind.......thats what they do