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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 18 Sep 07

I have been debating some things with a few people here lately. I am not one to give up. Right now though I have to stop. The other day I found out that my childhood neighbor and friend had given birth to her twins at 25 weeks...

cant debate right now

devestated

dont have it in me

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raisingsaints Sorry to hear about your friends and family, I will keep you in my prayers.

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 17 Sep 07

God forbid someone use the wrong word in a discussion!! I used the word ascended as opposed to assumed and was jumped all over for it. I used ascended because I meant raised but it wasn't the terminology they use so I was told...

incorrect term

insults for mistakes

wrong word

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raisingsaints I didn't think I was jumping all over you, just clarifying my point. As I said I didn't mean to insult you. You did say this in that other discussion: As I said to the person before you I used the lottery as an extreme example to show how silly it is to...

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 17 Sep 07

God forbid someone use the wrong word in a discussion!! I used the word ascended as opposed to assumed and was jumped all over for it. I used ascended because I meant raised but it wasn't the terminology they use so I was told...

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raisingsaints You're talking about me! I didn't mean to insult you, sorry if you took it that way. I just wanted to clarify Catholic teaching, especially when you present as truth something that isn't... I suppose this discussion wasn't insulting to the other...

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semjosefrancisco @semjosefrancisco (4) • Philippines 21 Aug 07

Do you believe that outside the Church there is no salvation?

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raisingsaints The word "gospel" means good tidings, the good news God sends to mankind through His Son. The content of this good news is in Jesus himself, in His words and actions. The Apostles, who were chosen by Jesus to be the basis of His Church, fulfilled His...

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints Why is it necessary for this process to be in the Bible? You call it made up by men, and I agree with you. It is made up by the successors of the Apostles in addition to the holder of the key to the kingdom of Heaven. It is made up by people that God...

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints Where do I contradict myself? If praying before an image or statue of a saint is idolatry and worship, then so is praying in front of a cross, a stained glass window, a picture of Jesus, a children's book with pictures of the prophets, an angel, or while...

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints I think this is another misunderstanding. The Catholic Church teaches that all believers, on Earth, in purgatory, and in Heaven are saints. There are many more saints in Heaven other than those declared such by the Church. So, again, the burden of proof is on...

17 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints LOL, I mean really, the Bible doesn't explicitly describe it so it must not have happened? Where is *that* in the Bible? For that to be the case, then: Mary would still be alive on Earth because her death isn't recorded (the same goes for Joseph and most of...

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 14 Sep 07

I want to offer apologies to the Catholic population of this site. I know that some may think that I attack Catholics and that isn't true. I was born and raised Catholic. My family is Catholic. But I left the RC church after...

apologies

defending the bible

sorry catholics

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raisingsaints I agree that Scriptures are the words of the Bible. Since you believe that the Bible should not be added to or subtracted from then you must also believe that the deuterocanonical books are also Scripture. That's good news. But then you present another...

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 14 Sep 07

I recently read in a discussion that apparently part of the reason that Catholics pray to Mary is that Jesus can't say no to her. (for those who don't know people pray to Mary who then brings your request to Jesus) Well that...

jesus cant say no to mary

praying to mary

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raisingsaints maildumpster- Where does Scripture state that saints in Heaven "hearing" us is Godlike ability? Do you flat out deny that souls in Heaven are not aware of Earthly activities, including "hearing"?

17 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 14 Sep 07

I recently read in a discussion that apparently part of the reason that Catholics pray to Mary is that Jesus can't say no to her. (for those who don't know people pray to Mary who then brings your request to Jesus) Well that...

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raisingsaints But you didn't answer my questions... Is Mary excluded? If Mary asks Jesus for something, does she receive it or not? And some new ones... If any person asks Jesus to win the lottery, will they win the lottery? Where in Scripture does Jesus say "no"...

17 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints Sainthood-- God promises that the Davidic kingdom will last forever 2 Samuel 7:16 "And your house and your kingdom shall be established forever before you. Your throne shall be established forever." Jesus is a son of David Matthew 1:1 "The book of the...

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints Sorry for the multiple responses, but it would've been way too long to put in just one. What is idolatry?-- Praying to an image, not God or a saint Praying to a statue, not God or a saint Worshipping an image or statue, not God Offering sacrifices to an...

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints Prayers to saints -- God's family exists in Heaven and on Earth: Ephesians 3:14-15 "For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, from whom the whole family in Heaven and Earth is named." God's family is in Jesus Christ, whose...

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints Well, we've already discussed much of this, but since Catholic theology is one of my favorite subjects (and apparently yours too), I reiterate. Now, I have said in other discussions that you attack what you clearly do not understand...and here you provide...

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semjosefrancisco @semjosefrancisco (4) • Philippines 21 Aug 07

Do you believe that outside the Church there is no salvation?

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raisingsaints Nope, I don't accept that Christ's Church is *just* a coming together of believers. I do believe that His Church encompasses a mystical body of believers, both on Earth and in Heaven, but I also believe that it is visible and bound by doctrine, just as the...

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 14 Sep 07

I recently read in a discussion that apparently part of the reason that Catholics pray to Mary is that Jesus can't say no to her. (for those who don't know people pray to Mary who then brings your request to Jesus) Well that...

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raisingsaints oops *misinterpreted *lottery

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