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semjosefrancisco @semjosefrancisco (4) • Philippines 21 Aug 07

Do you believe that outside the Church there is no salvation?

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raisingsaints The word "gospel" means good tidings, the good news God sends to mankind through His Son. The content of this good news is in Jesus himself, in His words and actions. The Apostles, who were chosen by Jesus to be the basis of His Church, fulfilled His...

18 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints Why is it necessary for this process to be in the Bible? You call it made up by men, and I agree with you. It is made up by the successors of the Apostles in addition to the holder of the key to the kingdom of Heaven. It is made up by people that God...

18 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints Where do I contradict myself? If praying before an image or statue of a saint is idolatry and worship, then so is praying in front of a cross, a stained glass window, a picture of Jesus, a children's book with pictures of the prophets, an angel, or while...

17 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints I think this is another misunderstanding. The Catholic Church teaches that all believers, on Earth, in purgatory, and in Heaven are saints. There are many more saints in Heaven other than those declared such by the Church. So, again, the burden of proof is on...

17 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 12 Sep 07

I have questions for anyone who can answer them. Please answer with the scripture that supports your answer. Where does the idea that Mary ascended body and soul to heaven come from? Where does the idea of sainthood come...

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raisingsaints LOL, I mean really, the Bible doesn't explicitly describe it so it must not have happened? Where is *that* in the Bible? For that to be the case, then: Mary would still be alive on Earth because her death isn't recorded (the same goes for Joseph and most of...

17 Sep 07

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 14 Sep 07

I want to offer apologies to the Catholic population of this site. I know that some may think that I attack Catholics and that isn't true. I was born and raised Catholic. My family is Catholic. But I left the RC church after...

apologies

defending the bible

sorry catholics

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raisingsaints I agree that Scriptures are the words of the Bible. Since you believe that the Bible should not be added to or subtracted from then you must also believe that the deuterocanonical books are also Scripture. That's good news. But then you present another...

17 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 14 Sep 07

I recently read in a discussion that apparently part of the reason that Catholics pray to Mary is that Jesus can't say no to her. (for those who don't know people pray to Mary who then brings your request to Jesus) Well that...

jesus cant say no to mary

praying to mary

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raisingsaints maildumpster- Where does Scripture state that saints in Heaven "hearing" us is Godlike ability? Do you flat out deny that souls in Heaven are not aware of Earthly activities, including "hearing"?

17 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 14 Sep 07

I recently read in a discussion that apparently part of the reason that Catholics pray to Mary is that Jesus can't say no to her. (for those who don't know people pray to Mary who then brings your request to Jesus) Well that...

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raisingsaints But you didn't answer my questions... Is Mary excluded? If Mary asks Jesus for something, does she receive it or not? And some new ones... If any person asks Jesus to win the lottery, will they win the lottery? Where in Scripture does Jesus say "no"...

17 Sep 07

semjosefrancisco @semjosefrancisco (4) • Philippines 21 Aug 07

Do you believe that outside the Church there is no salvation?

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raisingsaints Nope, I don't accept that Christ's Church is *just* a coming together of believers. I do believe that His Church encompasses a mystical body of believers, both on Earth and in Heaven, but I also believe that it is visible and bound by doctrine, just as the...

15 Sep 07

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maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 14 Sep 07

I recently read in a discussion that apparently part of the reason that Catholics pray to Mary is that Jesus can't say no to her. (for those who don't know people pray to Mary who then brings your request to Jesus) Well that...

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raisingsaints oops *misinterpreted *lottery

14 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 14 Sep 07

I recently read in a discussion that apparently part of the reason that Catholics pray to Mary is that Jesus can't say no to her. (for those who don't know people pray to Mary who then brings your request to Jesus) Well that...

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raisingsaints You have misintrepreted again...I was laughing about your "win the lotter" example. So, when Jesus says, Whatever you ask in my name, you shall receive; He is excluding His mother? If Mary asks Jesus for something in His name, does she recieve it or not?

14 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 14 Sep 07

I recently read in a discussion that apparently part of the reason that Catholics pray to Mary is that Jesus can't say no to her. (for those who don't know people pray to Mary who then brings your request to Jesus) Well that...

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raisingsaints I didn't understand for a long time either. Many Christians ask others for prayers and they in turn pray for other people. These are intercessory prayers. The Bible is very clear that intercessory prayers are both acceptable and necessary for Christian...

14 Sep 07

maildumpster @maildumpster (3815) • United States 14 Sep 07

I want to offer apologies to the Catholic population of this site. I know that some may think that I attack Catholics and that isn't true. I was born and raised Catholic. My family is Catholic. But I left the RC church after...

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raisingsaints You misinterpreted my point about infallibility. In claiming that no person is infallible (including you) that means that you could be wrong (because you're fallible). Really, if you can't even interpret my response, how credible is your interpretation of...

14 Sep 07

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mermaid911 @mermaid911 (798) • Philippines 4 Sep 07

There has been a lot of controversy why Catholics believe in statues and keeping them in their churches. Aside from that they also pray to these statues and walk with them in processions. Why do they do these?

statues

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raisingsaints ditto!

14 Sep 07

mermaid911 @mermaid911 (798) • Philippines 4 Sep 07

There has been a lot of controversy why Catholics believe in statues and keeping them in their churches. Aside from that they also pray to these statues and walk with them in processions. Why do they do these?

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raisingsaints revdauphinee- Here's my problem with your idea about Revelation. Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 15:25-26 that Jesus is currently reigning and that He will reign until death is conquered. Death is conquered at the second coming. But the second coming marks...

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mermaid911 @mermaid911 (798) • Philippines 4 Sep 07

There has been a lot of controversy why Catholics believe in statues and keeping them in their churches. Aside from that they also pray to these statues and walk with them in processions. Why do they do these?

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raisingsaints maildumpster- Catholics do not apply divinity to the Saints or Mary. We simply regard them in high esteem as Paul instructs us to do. Those in Heaven being able to hear us does not constitute godlike ability. It only requires that they be "outside of time",...

14 Sep 07

mermaid911 @mermaid911 (798) • Philippines 4 Sep 07

There has been a lot of controversy why Catholics believe in statues and keeping them in their churches. Aside from that they also pray to these statues and walk with them in processions. Why do they do these?

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raisingsaints revdauphinee- I don't think that the point here is to make others believe as we do. I responded to your post because you implied that Catholic statues are idols. I was simply clarifying why Catholics have them and why they aren't idols. I was also pointing...

14 Sep 07

mermaid911 @mermaid911 (798) • Philippines 4 Sep 07

There has been a lot of controversy why Catholics believe in statues and keeping them in their churches. Aside from that they also pray to these statues and walk with them in processions. Why do they do these?

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raisingsaints Ok, I thought maybe you meant among Catholics, like disagreements among Catholics about priestly celibacy. I don't really consider my discussions with non-Catholics as controversy. My purpose is to eliminate misconceptions and to properly explain why...

14 Sep 07

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