made in america
By rowantree
@rowantree (1186)
United States
September 4, 2007 8:10pm CST
I am going to hunt down every single company that does business in China, that contracts out to China and guess what?
I WILL NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THOSE COMPANIES.
Yes I will have to do without some stuff. My kids won't get the hottest, newest toys from Mattel (big deal, they'll only be recalled a year later). But I can do it.
I am sick and tired of China trying to kill us, kill our children and kill our pets. I am sick and tired of China being a Communist country, which is a horrible thing to be, according to our President, yet we spend billions and billions of dollars each year on China.
I am sick and tired of China murdering their own people and no one blinks an eye. Why is it ok for China to do it and not ok for Darfur? Why the big uproar about Darfur doing it, but not so much as a whimper for China? Is it because of all the American corporations? WHY?
Remember that saying that went something like, "If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention"?
Pay attention. Be outraged. Take action.
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15 responses
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Sep 07
I couldn't agree with you more rowantree...I did an article over at Associated Content about the idea of a massive boycotting of anything made in China....There's a great problem though here...just about EVERYTHING IS made in China....even the products that are made here in this country may have component parts made in China. IT would be really hard to track everything actually made in China....Could that be why there are so many problems and recalls with even cars?? Their parts are made in China And it wasn't too long ago I heard of a major tire company, supposedly here in America that recalled their tires cause they were actually made in China I'm with you though...how could we go about having major boycotts of anything made in China..who do we write to??
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@rowantree (1186)
• United States
5 Sep 07
Not sure who we write to but I'm guessing the companies would be a start. I know it's going to be hard to find non-China items. I probably won't be able to eliminate them entirely but I know I can cut way back!
@Opteron (1842)
• Italy
5 Sep 07
oh I fully agree with your toughts and those of LadyLuna!
I am from Italy and we are being invaded from China products!
They began with spreading in our market cheap products and now they wants to fully penetrate the market.
They are well known for making the worst imitations of our products. They are selling in Europe and in Italy counterfeit products with Armani, Gucci or Valentino stylist trademark.
Sometimes you must be careful to buy a genuine product, because you can find at high price a counterfeit product!
They are selling here harmful or dangerous products, like those manifactured in China from Mattel!
It's a bad trend that one...many big companies manifacturing products in China because of low price and than finish products in their home base, like in USA or ITALY. Laws here says that if you do in that way you can put the MADE IN USA or MADE IN ITALY brand and none will know where components has been made ;-((.
Another bad thing to trick people in buying China products is this one:
You must know that when we buy something, like a toy or an electronic product or other things, we have a "C E" brand on all products that means European Community and that underwrites that it's a secure product and we can trust it.
Instead China products have a similar brand, "CE" with no space in it, that is the acronym for China Export! They are tricking buyers in thinking that we buy an European product, instead we buy a China product, maybe dangerous!
We have only one weapon! BOYCOTT!! We can only be careful when buying products and trying to not buy those one from China!
I like the quality of Italian's products. I trust those one from USA too...I hope that China will never do quality products like ours!
@4ftfingers (1310)
•
6 Sep 07
You're right Opteron! I never noticed that before but I just looked on a toy car my brother had when he was young and the CE looks exactly like our European Commission one. How sly!
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@rowantree (1186)
• United States
5 Sep 07
Wow I'm really sorry to hear that China is such a trickster over in Europe. Thanks for the info and I'll definitely be more aware of the "CE" from now on!
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
5 Sep 07
Hello Rowantree,
I respect your commitment!
Just the other day I was at a local store. Another shopper asked the store clerk if there was an alternative to a product that was manufactured in China. She followed her question with the explanation that she is not buying anything made in China, not until they get their act together. The product was Ginseng. Ginseng has been a staple in China for thousands of years. But now, their irrigation waters are so polluted, that the health benefits are lost to the toxicity. This isn't just my perception, it is verifiable fact. With the upcoming 2008 Olympics, China is working feverishly to try to band-aid fix some of the manufacturing problems & filth that has become so rampant. There have been quite a number of news stories about the efforts of the Chinese Government's efforts in this area.
What you endeavor to achieve is not an easy task. But, it's not impossible either. The good news is that everything is labelled in the USA. That won't necessarilly mean that some raw materials won't be coming from China.
I think that if enough people make the same commitment as you (especially if they let their wishes be known to retail chain management), then American's will be inclined to make a return to more of a manufacturing based economy. This will help the USA in a number of areas!
Thanks to Craftcatcher for providing some links to "Made in the USA" goods.
And to Sudiptacalling: there's a huge difference between China's efforts to become the world's manufacturer, and China manufacturing & exporting goods that are clearly sub-standard, and dangerous. It doesn't behoove China to kill those who purchase their products. This is simply irresponsible, and could produce no other result than what Rowantree suggests. If someone is making products that are toxic, then it would be foolhearty to continue buying from them.
Sometimes it's wise to set aside our own perceptions to look at the facts. China clearly doesn't desire to kill their international economic base. Who would be left to purchase their products? Instead, they are trying to play 'catch-up', and are doing so with little or no regard to quality assurance.
As for China's low regard for human life ... there are simply no excuses that can be made for it.
Anyway Rowantree, I'm also outraged!
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@rowantree (1186)
• United States
5 Sep 07
WOW Ladyluna, I am in awe and in agreement with everything you wrote. Extremely well written. Thank you so much for taking the time to write your opinion here.
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@bam001 (940)
• United States
6 Sep 07
Rowantree,
I couldn't agree with you more. And to the person who says those of us who are boycotting Chinese made toys, etc... We will still be able to find things that are not made in China. China is not the only nation that manufactures toys and other items.
I don't understand why we (U.S.) import so much from China. Well, I realize that it has to do with money and cheap labor. I, for one, would pay more for U.S.A. made products.
When I first got upset about the pet food contamination, many, many people told me that I was going overboard and being paranoid. Now that so many things are starting to show up, I know that my gut instinct was correct all along. I will check the "Made in..." labels on everything I buy. Maybe if a great number of people would boycott items made in China, our companies here would stop outsourcing all of the work over there.
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@AmbiePam (92474)
• United States
5 Sep 07
Wow hon. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way. It would do us all good to voice these thoughts to the powers that be. They can ignore one or two people, but could they ignore millions? But people are too complacent. They don't want to do anything, they get mad, but let it go. Keeping it alive as subject is a good idea though. I applaud you for speaking your mind. China is huge in religious persecution as well. They kill missionaries if they are caught. It really isn't safe to be anything but what they want a person to be.
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@rowantree (1186)
• United States
5 Sep 07
Hi & thanks. If China was a good country who treated their people fairly and kindly, I'd buy it all. But let's face reality here, they're not good people and they don't treat their people fairly and kindly. They murder their own people. American companies contract out to small, Chinese factories for the cheap labor and parts. Unfortunately, many of these cheap factories - and there are a lot - are not regulated. Quality does suffer. There's no way to trace back where the came from. Sometimes when an American company does try to track it back, they find the factory is just gone.
@msjigga (864)
• United States
18 Sep 07
Hi rowantree! I completely agree with you. My Daugther just had her 1st birthday in July and I had to return or throw away almost everything that I brought her for her birthday and some toys I purchased prior to her birthday.
I am outraged in the massive recalls. I am now Christmas shopping and I am having such a hard time finding toys that are not made in China. Finding things made in America is rare these days. I say bring America's jobs back so that America can regulate safety of our toys more effectively.
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
5 Sep 07
I agree with you! I will go out of my way to not buy Chinese products. It is very difficult though. When you really start looking, they're everywhere, and it's often hard to find the origin of some products. The problem is, is that it's all about money. They're products are cheap, and I don't think Walmart shoppers will pay 50% more for a t-shirt that was made in North America. North America will not make a stand because again, it's because of money.
@rowantree (1186)
• United States
6 Sep 07
Oh I really hope you're wrong. All of the articles I've been reading have all focused on one thing - that the "Made in China" label is now more of a warning sign to consumers than anything else. Let's hope that the US and other countries can step in.
@venshida (4836)
• United States
5 Sep 07
I am with you on this one. It's time we stand up and take a stand. These corporations have shipped the manufacturing jobs to China, and have not done enough to protect the American consumers. I for one I am making sure I don't buy any products made in China.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
6 Sep 07
You're right Rowantree!
Yesterday I was doing a bit of Christmas shopping. This included: children's books, toys & baby clothes.
I was able to find items manufactured in the USA, Thailand, India, Pakistan, Brazil, and Malaysia. I also saw many labels from China, but I was able to choose gifts that were made other than in China. And, I only visited ONE store!
@rowantree (1186)
• United States
6 Sep 07
Chinese818, you need to start reading labels. There are plenty of products that are NOT made in China available here and online. In fact, there was a very nice article written that let people know this and could prove that the items made from other countries were of higher quality than those made in China. Sure, they do cost a little bit more, not much, but it is so worth it to spend five cents more to get a good quality item that you know won't be recalled or kill your dog.
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@chinese818 (6)
• China
6 Sep 07
That is impossible.You have to buy products made in China,it is everywhere.
@craftcatcher (3699)
• United States
5 Sep 07
Here's some of sites I had bookmarked for American made goods. Lots of stuff available if we just take the time to look. I'm missing the bookmark for my favorite site that tell you the common things we've been buying for years that aren't made in the US and probably thought they were. Like Gillette razors... they're made in France. Gillette has always been a French based company. I had no idea until I found that site. If I find it again I'll post it for you.
http://www.buydirectusa.com/
http://www.usstuff.com/
http://www.buyamericanmart.com/
@warmweatherwoman (2233)
• Atlantic City, New Jersey
5 Sep 07
Craftcatcher,
thanks so much for posting the websites on American made products- they are going to come in very handy for me since I banned walmart (read my post below).
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
5 Sep 07
Not everything that is made in China or comes from China is/are bad... Mattell and those other toy companies are partly to blame since they should have their own quality control people to check out the products before they go out in the market and considering the fact that most people are able to afford goods from China because labor is very cheap... if people would like to buy cheap products, then their workers should get cheap wages so that companies like Mattel would not resort to manufacturing their product in a country such as China....let us not judge lest we ourselves will be judge...
@rowantree (1186)
• United States
5 Sep 07
That's not what I'm saying at all. There are great products coming from China. There are great people from China. But our president, and the presidents before him, all state that it is our duty, as a country, to fight for democracy in other countries. We have no right letting a Communist country rule over every product we buy here in our own, democratic country. Our current president states that one of the reasons our troops are over in Iraq is because 'we're' Freedom Fighters, defenders of democracy. What a bunch of @*%#!!
Maybe you didn't read my entire post, because I want to know why it's so great to buy everything from China and not say a word about all of the murdering they are doing of their own people...yet the US is so outraged at Darfur? Are we outraged at what is happening in Darfur because they don't provide us with products so therefore they deserve our sympathy? China can go on murdering innocent people because hey, my kid needs that new Barbie for Christmas?
@warmweatherwoman (2233)
• Atlantic City, New Jersey
5 Sep 07
If you have Comcast on Demand- there is a special on there about WALMART- which ONLY buys chinese made products and sells them here in the USA. I have banned them after watching this special because they do not purchase American made and because they pay the lowest wages in the USA and most of thier employees are on public assitance- because they were sent there by Walmart- they tell thier workers that that is what the welfare system is for- use it. So not only do they not buy American- they also use our Welfare system as thier insurance policy- costing tax payers like me billions a year!
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
5 Sep 07
Hello Warmweatherwoman & Rowantree,
Before we jump into a universal ban against shopping at Walmart, I'd like to straighten out a bit of misinformation.
Walmart is the largest distributor of locally produced products in the nation. In virtually every small town in America, Walmart enters into contractual agreements with local USA vendors to distribute their products. An across the board ban of Walmart will not only hurt China, it will also hurt local manufacturers, and in some cases craftspeople, and artists.
Instead of an across the board ban, I submit that reading product labels, for information about product origin may be more helpful in the long-run.
@rowantree (1186)
• United States
5 Sep 07
I do have Comcast On Demand (which is probably made in China, LOL). I had just heard that about Wal-Mart. Thank you so much! I'm glad for the head's up. I don't usually head over to Wal-Mart anyway but now I will be especially sure to steer clear. Not that I'm going to really put a dent in Wal-Mart's business, but hey...I once read the most beautiful quote regarding activism. "someone has to be the first drop of rain". I love that quote!
@warmweatherwoman (2233)
• Atlantic City, New Jersey
5 Sep 07
rowantree- Your very welcome for the info- I found it quite fasinating that walmart does billions in sales each year yet purposfully understaffs thier stores (don't you hate checking out in walmart) to save a buck. Just as they use the welfare system as thier empolyees insurance plan!
ladyluna- I will look more in depth into walmarts purchasing- but on another note- this is not the only reason I have banned them, there are many reasons that I am not in favor of the way Walmart does business.
@mikecrush (163)
• Malaysia
5 Sep 07
yes you have a point there. Australia banned toothpaste from china few days ago coz it was found to have poisonous chemicals.
I have already started doing this. No packed,bottled,canned food and drinks which are made in china So far it has not changed in lifestyle.
With toys and electronic items, almost 90% are made in china. If you want to get something made in USA its very rare. Even computer parts are being made in china now. some like western digital are made in singapore and malaysia. good news at least.
it will take you countless of hours and resources to track down every single China related misdemeanor here. but do little every day. you will accomplish a lot .
good luck
@chinese818 (6)
• China
5 Sep 07
I will tell you that even China do not produce these products,other countrys who are similar to China will do the same.Some products can't be made in america,because the fee is too high.
I do admit that something made in China are not well good.But every country has the same .Some big companies can produce the high quality product.So if you buy these product made in big companys,you will fell good.
@rowantree (1186)
• United States
5 Sep 07
You're right, Chinese818. Other countries do the same thing that China has done. Even the US has had to recall stuff. But how China treats their people really, REALLY bothers me. It bothers me enough to say that "enough is enough" and I am disgusted with myself for not speaking out sooner.
@chinese818 (6)
• China
5 Sep 07
You say"buy how china treats their people really,really bothers me.It bothers me enough to say that"enough is enough"and i am disgusted with myself for not speaking out sooner"
I will tell you that when someone meet a people who speak whithout stoping,they a chinese may say"enough is enough".
But in chinese,"enough is enough"is used not so frequentely,sometimes it is only a joke.Because the translation from china is always so poor,so sometimes a saying speaking in english from chinese is not so easy understanding,you know.
@chinese818 (6)
• China
6 Sep 07
China is poor,but the government does not treat its people badly.America government always say how the government of china treat its people badly.All because of america goverment has sensed the threaten from china.
Surely i admit that there do exit something in china,but not so seriously as america government say and what you think.
@mr_bob (4)
• Bermuda
5 Sep 07
You are not going to have any possessions because just about everything is made in china these days. You may be able to find a potato sack to hide your families nakedness when you burn your chinese made clothes. The only products made in america are the WMD's that you drop on Iraq to kill their civilians.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
5 Sep 07
Great reply Mr. Bob! I was just about thinking on similar lines when I got to yours. Its surprising how one feels when the tables turn and you are at the receiving end! OK so China is communist what’s wrong in that? If the USA can be imperialist, can’t China be communist? OK most companies are outsourcing to China… if China can produce quality products at competitive prices, who are we to complain? Capitalists countries first started the concept of free trade and Asia is just catching up so fast now, that Americans don’t even have time to blink! Just because Asia is trying to check-mate America at its own game, people are not liking it. I have ‘met’ many Americans here in Mylot but none have been so ‘racial’ in their views. Its alright if McDonald’s, KFC, Coke, Pepsi, Parker, Arrow, and many many such American brands rule the world but not alright if Mattel outsources to China, right! And even if the companies outsource to reduce costs, some of the benefits are definitely passed on to consumers and then again there is no point in bad-mouthing China, Americans should look inward and ask if their standard of living has become so high that indigenous companies can no longer afford local labour!
@rowantree (1186)
• United States
5 Sep 07
You said it, Mr. Bob. Just about everything is made in China these days. I want to have goods imported from other countries. I do not think it's fair that just about everything is from only China. I want a country that evenly imports. I want a country that will only do business with countries who treat people fair and kindly. China doesn't fit that description. If they want to quit murdering their own people and start treating people fair and kindly, I will gladly stand in line to buy something with the tag "Made in China". Until then, I'm not.
As for Iraq, well that drives me crazy too! How can our president say our troops are over there because we're all "Freedom Fighters" when we're buying just about everything from a Communist country? If we support Communism (and based on everything we buy from China, we obviously do), then we shouldn't be over in Iraq, should we? I'm not saying that Iraq is Communist, but we're certainly not Freedom Fighters over there. Why is it ok for one country to run things inhumanely and not another?
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
17 Sep 07
I would love if they went back to making all of our products here in the USA. Why should any other country worry about whether children or pets or even adults get sick and die from their junk products.
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