Forget about giving us your 2 cents: Is your one cent worth anything at all?
By breepeace
@breepeace (3014)
Canada
October 21, 2007 12:14am CST
Found on CTV.ca
OTTAWA -- Canadians have given the Royal Canadian Mint more than their two cents worth about what they can do with that ubiquitous brown coin filling jars around the house.
In a survey on the future of the penny, Canadians and particularly retailers have told the Mint that it should follow the example of Australia and New Zealand and get rid of the nuisance coin.
The poll found that an overwhelming majority (63 per cent) of small retailers _ the fast food restaurants, grocery stores and coffee shops that regularly come into contact with the coin _ want the penny to be removed from circulation, while only 19 per cent favoured its continuance.
The opinion was more split with customers. Of 1,500 Canadians polled, 42 per cent agreed with retailers that the penny is not worth the copper it's minted with, although 33 per cent said they still wanted it around.
One reason for customers' greater reluctance to get rid of the penny is that Canadians overwhelming believe retailers will use this as an excuse to round prices up, rather than down.
The two most often cited reasons for getting rid of pennies by retailers are that they cause them to carry too much change and they are practically worthless. In fact, the vast majority of retailers say they allow customers to purchase a product even if they are a penny or two short.
And customers told the Mint that they often toss their penny change into a jar on the counter.
But the penny has its defenders, including large retailers that are concerned about limiting pricing options and tax implications.
A spokesperson for the Mint said no decision has been made on whether to act on the survey results, adding that it would be up to government to order the penny's removal.
And Christine Aquino of the Mint wanted to clear up one general misconception _ the penny is worth more than it costs to make it, although it's a close call.
The Mint survey does make it clear that removing the penny would not be an easy proposition. There are approximately 26 billion in circulation and the Mint churns out a billion more each year.
The easy part would be to simply stop making them. But after that it gets more complicated, the Mint says.
For instance, some suggestions are for the Mint to buy back all the pennies and melt them down, although collecting 26 billion pennies would take time. And what would happen to hoarded pennies that were not turned over for destruction, would they remain legal tender?
Another reason to retain the penny, a large majority of Canadians told the Mint, is that it is simply part of Canada's heritage. And that is worth something.
What do you think? Should we keep our little brown coin or discard it like the Aussies have? I agree that it will give Canadian retailers an excuse to suddenly round up, and I'm afraid making that choice will have long lasting repurcussions. I'm sure the penny would become much like the $1 and $2 bills in that it's still legal tender, but more of a pain in the rear to spend.
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@Countrymom (371)
• United States
21 Oct 07
Pennies certainly can add up. Every so often you hear about a teenager that has saved pennies since they were young and they are cashing them in to buy their first car! It usually makes the paper and its a biggie to the kid and hey, those pennies they picked up in the grocery store parking lot were worth a lot to that kid in the end! I save pennies for our kids and they put them in their piggy banks. One day they would like to be that kid that gets his or her first car by saving their own money. Yes, they do get heavy...when I was in high school the class that graduated the year before I did each passed off a penny to the school principal as they shook his hand...this was a generous and thoughtful gesture on the seniors part....the poor principal was running out of places to put his new found wealth by the end of the evening however as there were almost 3000 students in that graduating class! The year I graduated they had a very large jar standing by the principal and as we handed him our pennies he carefully placed them in the jar and thus started a new scholarship fund. What fun we had with those pennies though!
@patgalca (18369)
• Orangeville, Ontario
21 Oct 07
Well, maybe they wouldn't be complaining about the weight of all that change if they hadn't turned the $1 and $2 into coins.
I agree retailers will round up. In so many stores they have little dishes on the counter that say "give a penny take a penny". Sometimes customers don't want their penny back and let the retailer keep it. On the other hand, if you happen to go over by a penny or two on the gas gauge when filling up, a lot of retailers will round it down to the even dollar. But I definitely think there would be some rounding up. They would just have to get rid of taxes altogether so that a price is a price and stands as is with no pennies. He he he!
Guess I should roll that peanut butter jar full of pennies in my cupboard and get them to the bank before they become extinct. LOL!
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@DeenaD (2684)
• United States
6 Jan 08
Of course retailers would like the penny removed. Then they could set the cost of everything in increments of five cents. In other words, everything will cost slightly more. I would like to keep the penny, at least for that reason - although I have a big container of pesky pennies that I do not feel like wrapping and taking to the bank, because it's almost not worth the time I would take me to do it.
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
21 Oct 07
It is probably true that it costs more than one cent to mint the one cent coin. I do think however we should not get rid of it. Someone has pointed out some tax issues such as if the tax come to 51 cents.. Are we then charged 50 cents (I would like that) or are we going to be charged 55 cents. I don't know how the Australians solved it. In any case I pick up any pennies I find on the sidewalk or bus stop and put them in a jar. I must have several dollars by now. Maybe it is time to roll them and bring them to the bank.
@breepeace (3014)
• Canada
22 Oct 07
Actually, it doesn't cost more than it's worth -- although it is close. It costs 0.8 cents to make a penny.
@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
21 Oct 07
I think pennies are necessary. If we eliminate the penny, then the nickel will become the new penny. Thee has to be a single unit. 5 will become the new 1.
What about the 6% GST?
Say I spend $8.55 in a store.
15% of $8.55 is $0.51 How are we going to be able to do that without the penny?
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@mrarkangel (72)
• Canada
4 Mar 08
Personally I have no particular desire to keep the penny around with the rate of infaltion in Canada there is really no point for it. The penny is an adged form of currency and though it does not do a great harm its relative uselessness does in a way hurt businesses in a very small way. I mean that if a buisness us all being Canadians "Tim Hortons" is off by two cents four purchases per day at every location then over the course of a year the company would loose $13,140.00 (based on 1800 stores). For Tim Hortons that is not a huge amount of money but that is taxable income at least two or three grand of that would have went to the government and it and the budget for minting pennies could go to something more usefull like education or healthcare. Just my opinion though.
@StrawberryKisses (2833)
• Canada
21 Oct 07
I'm not sure where I stand on this. I don't like them because they are a pain but on the other hand I don't want prices to go up anymore.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
12 Feb 08
A penny is part of life. Leave it alone! They tried the coin dollar and that didn't go over. They tried the $2 bill and that didn't go over, when will they learn that somethings, no matter how old, are best just left as is! And of course retailers would round up and not down. State tax in California are (where I am) 7.75%. So if you take the penny away, are they going to drop it down to 7%? of course not, they will round it UP to 8%. They have just raised taxes and taken away some income!