When things go horribly wrong.

I'm so sorry you are going through this. I know exactly what it's like, except mine were attacked by neighbors dogs. Make sure that Tulip can get to him, goats don't do good healing on their own, they need company to keep their will to live up. We had a nubian nanny, she was huge, and loved the kids, thought she was a dog, would try to follow them in the house (and did on more than one occasion LOL) we had a Rat terrier and a Rottweiler, she "played" with both of them. Our neighbors had 6 German Shepards, our Rottweiler was always chasing them off our property. One night the dogs were in the house and our litte Rat Terrier kept barking and running circles in our sons room. We went out and called Nanny, but she didn't come up, we didn't think a whole lot of it with us having 10 acres. But one of the neighbors German Shepards was in the yard, my husband chased him off. The next morning we went out and she didn't come up, which was very unlike her. I walked as much as I could looking for her, then I went into labor so had to leave. When we got home the next morning (they stopped the labor) we found her under some trees and brought her up to the house, her ear was chewed through, her neck and jaw was all chewed up, we gave her mash through a syringe along with some water and antibiotics. We lost her in the middle of the night. Another time we had 6 goats and my Rott was going crazy in the yard trying to get to them, I open up the back door to see what was going on out there and 2 shepards were carrying off one of the goats by her throat and top of her head. She was about 6mo old. I screamed at them and ran out there, I opened the gate to let my Rott out into their pen. He rounded up all the goats into their shed and I closed the gate. I saw the neighbor outside so I yelled at her and told her that her dogs had just attacked my goat. She came running over there, and got them put up. I brought Karley in the house and she stayed in the bathroom until my husband got home and we could get her to the vet, when we got home she came back in the house and I stayed with her for 2 days, she pulled through just fine and she was much worse off than Nanny was. Those neighbors gave their dogs away to someone who lived in the city and they paid all vet bills and came to check on her frequently. They were very sorry that it had happened. One thing we put on Karley was Pink Lady, it came from the vet and was like a miracle worker, the top of her head was open up to the skull it healead over within a week and hair was growing back a couple weeks later. It's just a pink ointment, looks kinda like calomine lotion. I hope Pickles pulls through it and will be ok, he needs fluids, can you give him some in a syringe? Maybe try some clear pedialyte. Put it in his cheek as far back as you can and squirt it slow to give him time to swallow it. You could also make some mash really liquidy and put it in a syringe and give him that.

OMG MsTickle this is so terrible to hear. What kind of dog was Jedi anyway? I guess that instinct to attack goats never left her and that's why she attacked your poor Pickles. Words can't describe how bad I'm feeling for you and I get a clear image of how Jedi attacked Pickles. I do hope Pickles recovers from this horrible attack. How is your thumb? I hope you are okay too?

I hope that he is a lot better now the poor thing I really do not know why Men train their Dogs to do that it is terrible and I hope that there will be a law out soon to stop them as it is getting terrible I hope you are better now to Sweet a big Hug to you

Oh that's so sad!!! I hope they'll all be okay :(

Hi Ms Tickle! I am so sorry to hear that. I am not really sure why Jedi is acting that way but with what you have said before that maybe jedi was not really properly trained and she became aggressive because of the abuse she has experienced from the previous owner. I do hope Pickles will recover soon. Take care and have a nice day. :)

Oh Tickle, that is just horrible! Im so sorry to hear that honey. I sure do hope Pickles will be ok! It wasnt foolish of you! Dont be so hard on yourself, you were trying to do a good thing here. Its not your fault that dog got aggressive and attacked like that. Im really going to be praying for Pickles, bless his heart! Keep us posted on how hes doing will you? Bay Lay Gray xx

Don't blame yourself ya was only trying to help the dog and her babies I sure hope your goat will be okay and don't be so hard on your self ya was only doing wht was right

Okay, Dear Friend, You have quite beaten yourself up enough! You have good friends here that have shown you so much love and support; and if you noticed, NO ONE said, "You stupid woman, how could you have been so dumb to do such a thing!". Now, from that summary, I can only hope that you see that sometimes things just happen; and they happened this time to you and your four-leggeds as a chain of events that there was so quick and there was no stopping it and no way of preventing it once it had started. I am assuming that the dog that attacked was the cow dog that we spoke of in another post. My friend is still having difficulty at times with hers but when she takes him for walks in the park she now uses a chain collar that doesn't have "points" to poke into his neck; but it has "l_l" sort of looking barbs that really get his attention. We were both really hesitant about her using that to start with; but after I see how much better he is with other dogs, and how much better he is on a leash, I am feeling that it is really a humane type of collar. I don't know if it is strictly a male issue of encouraging aggressive dogs; but you are probably right that they are the majority. I often wonder why these dogs are bred and sold without a very strict licensing and perhaps even requiring the owners to obtain special insurance coverage along with adequate fencing at their homes. I know this sounds a bit radical but it's late at night and that's when I start being a bit off-the-wall. I have talked to breeders (not of aggressive type dogs) and they all are of the opinion that the majority of people that purchase these breeds are buying them for their reputation. I will hold Pickles close to my heart. Perhaps if you have a chance, is it possible to use a bottle to get him some fluid? I don't think it would harm him (since it is safe for babies) to get some Numzit and see if you can ease the pain enough for him to get some nourishment. If there is a wound you can get to after you have cleaned it with peroxide, it is also safe to open some vitamin E capsules and put the oil onto it. I also know that Tulip will aid tremendously in the healing process. I don't mention this in many discussions, but I am a Reiki Practitioner. The reason that I don't mention it is because I don't practice traditional Reiki where you charge people who come for a treatment. I also tell people that Reiki (or any other alternative healing) professionals are NOT healers. All I am is a conduit for the Great Spirit/God/Goddess/Universal Force/Etc. I also show them a few simple maneuvers to let them know that they also have the power to bring healing to their own hands. The easiest way for you to do this is called an "Energy Ball". Sit down and make yourself as calm as possible. Use a candle, incense, or anything else that will bring you peace. When you have stilled yourself take your hands and rub them together as briskly as possibly for about 1-2 minutes. With your eyes still closed, move your hands (in a slightly cupped position) about 6 inches apart from each other. You will feel the energy you have just created with the friction wanting to pull your hands back together. Practice doing this often until you "know" what that "tingle" feels like. Once you know the feeling, and you are truly in touch with Spirit and know that you are Spirit Guided, you can place your hands on yourself in a spot where you are feeling tension, you can place your hands on your chakras to align them. You can also TRY to place your hands on Pickles; BUT animals react differently to this type of energy. Some of them love it and some of them are repelled by it. If Pickles gets agitated in any manner at all if you try to touch his wounded areas with "energy hands", simply back away from him and keep the energy flowing toward his injury, but from a distance. You can hold this position until the tingling in your hands either stops, or your body/mind tells you to move to another position. Whew! I guess that was Lesson 1. Much Love to you~Donna

I am really sorry for your goat and beside such a cute one. I took a look at the picture and the affection you can get must be overwhelming. I agree with you that we don't need any agressive dogs. We definitely have to fight in order to eliminate this agressivity. Men raise dogs like that ... I wish Pickle will feel better now that he is in your care and do no trust any more dogs like that. All the best for all your pets and yourself, Esther

It sounds like they are pitbulls by the way they act and that is why in some places, there are considered a dangerous breed. They were bred to attack bulls, and a bull is a larger animal. So think of the danger it will do to a child let alone a smaller dog. They may look cute. In fact, we saw some small puppies in a pet store window that were probably pit bulls, but I still think a cocker spaniel or poodle are a best bet. I hope your pets get better. You should take then to the vet and it is a good thing you got rid of the mother dog and her puppies. I would not have been surprised that their former owner could not handle them.

Oh hun that is dreadful news. I hope Pickles will be ok and back to normal in no time. Unfortunately over the centuries man has used dogs for hunting, capitalising on the inate hunting instinct. Some breeds are bred purely for hunting, pit bulls being just one of these. I really hope everything will be alright for you.

Honey..My heart goes out to you.I am so sorry this happened..Jedi can be retrained but it will take an experienced trainer to do so. You might want to check out http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/ before you take in another stray especially one with pups. Always remember that a mother anything may react in a negitive manner at any time..Most won't but they are still animals that have unknow mental baggage...Every dog that I take goes into crate training from day one..He/she is isolated from my other pets or family at all time unless I have them on a leash during training..and then only after dealing with them for a while..I always err on the side of caution which I'm sure you will after this unfortunate episode. I am happy that you have such a good attitude about poor Jedi..you are correct..it was not her fault.. Doll there are no bad dogs just bad owners,breeders,handlers,etc I hope your sweet Pickles will be on the mend soon. Do you have any antibotic so you can give him a shot to ward off infection? I always have some pills and injectable on hand along with a needle.. I have had to sew up lacerations, treat sore eyes,Dress an abcess hoof..and many other problems..I take care of what I can myself and only call on a vet if I can not handle it myself. It cost me $50 just to get them out here before they even touch an animal..besides I have saved wounder wildlife and may injured pets both mine and for friends and family..I am always getting calls for help.. xoxoxoxoxoxoxo

Oh MsTickle! My arms are around you giving you the biggest hug!! Honey you didn't do this with bad intentions but rather good ones and it failed. I'm so sorry!! Please don't feel guilty for it for it wasn't your fault. I don't know why these jerks train their pets to be aggressive and mean. It's cruel to the poor animal but people do it anyways. I hope your goat is doing better. Give him a lot of attention and love along with the veterinarian care and he should be back to his happy ole self much quicker. I pray that's the case. Again Hugs To You My Friend!

I do volunteer work at a place that teaches kids about what life was like in central Fl. in the late 1800s. We have a bunch of sheep and goats. They were attacked by pit bulls and some were torn to shreds. The ones that survived had to be hand fed a liquidy gruel but we did it and saved them. It is hard work and time consuming but if you want to save your goat you need to start feeding him now!! Good luck, I hope all goes well!

I have nothing to add to this right now, except that if I were there I would give you, and Pickles a hug. You were trying to be kind, and do the right thing. I took in dogs that belonged to a family member, and one of them kept escaping and biting people. It got to where she was also having seizures, so my niece had her put down. The other dog too, as she was temperamental, easily scared, and looked part pit bull, regardless of what my sister said. I would have liked her to find a home, but it just did not happen, and we had her put down as well. I miss her, but my life is not a dog's life. I hope Pickles does better soon. Let us know, we know you will.

Sorry to hear that your goat was attacked. I hope he will be ok. There are many aggressive breeds of dogs and so many owners are irresponsible. Let us know how your goat is doing! Poor little thing!

So sorry to hear the bad news. It is a shame that not all pets are raises with love. Your poor little goat probably has never experienced anything like that before. I hope all goes well.

Oh Fran my dear mate, this is such sad news .. never trust a full grown animal that you don't know much about, your little bunch of pets are all pretty peaceful girls and boys ,I know you were only trying to be kind and help . There are so many people who think it is fun to make a dog go after another pet ..My heart goes out to poor little pickles ,I hope you get some help from the vet ..send hugs and prayer your way...

Oh this is so sad, for Pickles and the dog. I don't know why a lot of people do things they do. We just adopted a beagle and the poor thing has obviously been abused in his life - he shivers and shake if anyone raises thier voice, the grandkids run through the house, or even when the two cats fight with each other.

I am sorry indeed, Ms Tickle to hear about the turn of events considering your kind-hearted attempt to help out animals in need. It is true that animals respond to the way they have been trained, and it is shameful that so many of them are abused to the point where they become uncontrollable. I will keep your little Pickles in my thoughts and prayers. With time and care he should be as good as new before you know it.