Why do Americans tip for service?

Australia
December 4, 2007 7:02am CST
I honestly dont get the whole tiping thing. Why do people do it? I get the feeling that you must tip anyone and everyone. Poeole even say it should be this much and that much. Its hard enough managing money but when you put the tips on top of the price. I read a discussion about christmas tips man you would need lots of money to tip everyone if I had to tip all these people that would be at least $500 and thats my whole presents budget.
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
4 Dec 07
The whole idea of the tips industry... is that the hotel, bar et club management car hire employes for the minimum wage. Those people are prepared to take the job because they know that the tips will actually double their wages... and furthermore... they don't have to pay taxes on the tips. Another thing is that they are motivated in providing the best service possible in order to get the biggest tip possible. They would not do that if they were on wages. Just look at the lazy service we get in Australia. But the Americans go overboard with this. If you are on a budget while going on holiday... perhaps you don't want to pay someone to open the door for you and carry your bags. But they don't give you a choice about it. I have not been in America... so I don't know what the prices are like. You would have to see if the costs are lower than in Australia. For instance... if taking a taxi is 10% cheaper than in Australia... you can actually afford to give him a 10% tip.
• Australia
4 Dec 07
I am actually very happy with the level of service we get in Australia and we dont tip. The closest thing to tips is the change I live for charity. The thing that got me thinkink was the discussion on tips for christmas I would have to cut down on things for my love once to tip the hairdresser (it said as much as 1 standars visit) that would be $60.
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• Australia
4 Dec 07
I don't think people would be tipping their hairdresser $60.00. I think that Christmas and the tips are two different things. If a wealthy person goes to the hairdresser every week of the year and is happy with the service... that person might give a tip of $60.00 as a Christmas present. There is a minimum tip which is expected... and that is usually 10 percent of the bill. As a general rule... ordinary people who cannot afford to give tips will stay away from places which requires tips for everything. It is just a culture like any other culture. You get use to it when you live there.
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• Australia
4 Dec 07
I read it that for christmas they tip those people (hairdresser mailman) thats what got me thinking.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
4 Dec 07
What I wonder is why generations of Americans didn't seem to have trouble keeping track of who to tip and why... but now we can't seem to handle it.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
4 Dec 07
That's what I mean, only a couple of decades ago it was simple. I think most of it is the whole sense of entitlement thing going on lately. Traditionally, there have only been a few service type professions that were tipped, there was no minimum (but there was a recommendation), and that was that. Now, those in traditionally tipped jobs are demanding minimums and people in jobs that aren't paid based on tips think they "deserve" them.
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• Australia
4 Dec 07
I dont live in The USA and we dont tip so to me the whole thing is confusing. I constantly read things like: how much do you tip for coffee, taxi, restourants, door person to an outsider it seems that no one is actually payed enough. I think lately things are going way over the top.
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@Netsbridge (3253)
• United States
4 Dec 07
Most people simply tip as an act of gratitude for services rendered. I say "most" because I have known of people who tip and then complain about the service received and/or tip given! I tip as an act of gratitude. And if for some reason I was not satisfied with service received, I simply do not tip! And, I do not patronize businesses that required mandatory tipping! I believe tipping should be out of my own free will, not impose upon me!
• Australia
5 Dec 07
Yes you are very right about everything you wrote. Why would you go to a place where you have to tip? even less if you are not 100% happy about the food or service.
• United States
4 Dec 07
I live in a rural area so the only time I tip is when I go out to eat. Other than that, I don't really see any other reason to tip. And I only tip for good service. To me, it's something earned, not guaranteed.
• United States
5 Dec 07
I have to agree with you! I don't tip at places like fast food resturants or things like that. I do tip at a sit down resturant provided that the person takes care of us. if they forget about us I forget about their tip. They must work for it.
• Australia
5 Dec 07
I once read this comment about a lady that was very unhappy with the food and service and she said she left a tip anyway. Why would you do that I have no idea.
@aaidjs (1149)
• Croatia (Hrvatska)
4 Dec 07
Hello Dear Violetica!Not only Americans ,here we do the same thing!!I cant imagine to take coffee in the coffee bar without leave a tip!!If I pay $2 for cup of coffee i will put $1 more for service!!See you and Regards Silvana
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• Australia
4 Dec 07
thats the thing we pay GST 9that is goods and services) tax. So I feel that I have already payed for the service why should I pay again.
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@aaidjs (1149)
• Croatia (Hrvatska)
4 Dec 07
Hi again,I saw in some countries like in France, for example ,a small notice in menu that service is include in the price and than you don't need to pay tip!Silvana
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@dreamy1 (3811)
• United States
4 Dec 07
I hate tipping. Why should I give you extra money just for doing your job? People get mad if you don't tip and it shouldn't be like that. If I leave anything extra regardless of the amount they should be glad to get extra and not moan about it not being enough.
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• Australia
5 Dec 07
I honestly think that if they dont get enough they should complain about their employers not the costumers.
@academic2 (7000)
• Uganda
5 Dec 07
Frankly am amazed, I never thought that kind of petty coruuption was also a disease in America-in Africa, there are countries where you wont get a service unless you pull out a tip-here my country is just one of them, i live in Uganda.
• Australia
6 Dec 07
well wouldnt that be more like a bribe?
@missybal (4490)
• United States
5 Dec 07
Some people really depend on those tips. A lot of waitresses/waiter jobs don't pay very much because they expect you to work for your tips. I never pay attention to those rules on tipping. I tip according to the service I recieve and the need for money of the person I'm giving a tip to. I will tip nothing if I get bad service and if it is a very busy place that they have a lot of people tipping them I won't tip as much as I would for someplace with less business and so the waitress isn't making very much. I use to be a waitress and bartender and most of my income was those tips. So I always give top service.
• Australia
5 Dec 07
it good when you have been there and understand the industry.
• United States
5 Dec 07
thanks missybal. i like how you understand you are working for those tips and give great service. i would tip you well! :-) i used to work at a cafe where you tipped at the front jar while placing your order and not at the tables. i still gave great service even though tips were split and i would only get about 3 bucks at the end of a 6 hour shift. i always wanted to be a waitress to make tips becasue i think im a people person. but i got stuck at a desk job... no tips there, lol...
@mcjeannie (703)
• Philippines
5 Dec 07
My hubby is an American, but we prefer to live here in PI.Still he carry on their culture on giving tips.Say for instance, if we dine in a restaurant, he made it a point he leaves 10% extra from the total cost of what we ate.I always ask him why he does that and he says, people who have this kind of a living that also includes other blue collar jobs have a minimal wages thus it is just fair enough to give them a tip especially if they provided you a good service. Although PI is a developing country, I always tell him he don't need too, but he insists anyway.I think, there are some advantages, like in the subdivision that we live, maintenance people are prompt to do plumbing and carpentry jobs in our home since they expect my hubby give them aa big TIP.On the other hand, I have this one situation, when hubby and I joined a tour to one of the Phils. historical place.That place can actually be toured by a carriage so intstead of taking a taxi, we rode in a carriage.One british couple were negotiating for the price of a day's tour but the carriage man declined saying the brits were not generous with their price.My hubby bid for a higher price and he even gave a tip for this man.See, you prevent some hassles in life this way only for a tip. I was so sorry for the Brit couple,I overheard them saying"WHY do the Americans ruin some good things in life"? " Some services here in PI are very affordable supposed to be". My hubby just shrugged his shoulders and as he is used to it, he doesn't mind tipping!
• Philippines
14 Dec 07
Yes!It is his way of life...If for me alone, If I do it or not, wouldn't affect me.
• Australia
5 Dec 07
yes there are good and bad thing about it but what if your husband stops giving tips would you still get good service?
@bethyboo (399)
• United States
4 Dec 07
You should always tip a waiter/waitress if you recieve good service. They should definitely have to earn your tip though.I always try to tip something because they only make 2.12 an hour so if they don't get their tips then they don't have the money for christmas. If you don't have money to tip them, then don't bother going out to eat. They are providing you service and making sure you have everything you need for your dining experience so they deserve at least 15-20% of the total bill.
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• Australia
5 Dec 07
It is so sad that they have to depend on tips when the buissnes owners save all these money and do the wrong thing by them.
@elemental69 (1561)
• Ireland
5 Dec 07
Hi, I dont really understand where you are coming from in this discussion. I work in a restaraunt for minimum wage. I work a 9 hour day and coming up to christmas it can reach 12 hour days. The wages are practically peanuts!!!! Tips are optional for customers. Not all do. The best day I have had in tips was last weekend and that was 6.00. Customers where I work tip the staff for a friendly service and good food. They at least appreiciate a good meal handed up to them. I too tip whenever I eat out. I know the workand preparation that goes into cooking that meal.
• Australia
5 Dec 07
But I dont understand why is your pay so small. I just don get it how can such a large industry pay their workers so little. Wht would happen if tomorow they said ok as of now it is illegal to tip. Would your pay go up? In Australia majority of people in the food industry get very good money my friend gets over $28 an hour on night shift and about $22 a day shift.
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• Australia
5 Dec 07
how do you become qualified, is it just experience or do you have to go to school?
• Ireland
5 Dec 07
When a person in the food industry is not qualified, then they are not entitled to any more than the national minimum wage regardless of what they are actually doing. You have to keep in mind that it is not an easy task to work in a kitchen. Leaving tips is still a personal choice of each individual customer.
• United States
4 Dec 07
Well when you look at what waiters and waitresses make for minimum wage...$2.12 an hour in most cases, do you really think they can live on that income? that isn't even $100 a week if they work 40 hours. That is the main reason people tip, they know what these people are making an hour, and tipping is just a way to show that you got great service. Not everyone tips, but most here in America do. I tip my waiters, waitresses, and servers anywhere from 15-20% of the total bill, as I do not see how service could possibly be included in their $2.12 an hour wage. My mother was a waitress for years and years, and if not for her tips I don't know how we would have ever survived.
• Australia
5 Dec 07
But why are they payed so little? That amount is a joke to be honest and here we are complaining in Australia that mcdonalds pays the kids $10 an hour.
• United States
15 Dec 07
I used to date a waiter and I hated going out to eat with him. Every time we went together, I'd end up having to tip the waiter or waitress about what our bill was. So it was like I bought 4 meals instead of just two! Thankfully we broke up and my current boyfriend agrees with me :) It's all about the quality of service we receive. If it's good then we'll tip up to about $5 or $6. $6 if they were absolutely exceptional. Usually though it's around $3 and we get guilted into $4. But we only tip when we go out to eat. We don't really do too many other things regularly where tipping is...I guess, almost required. If we're going to a takeout place, we'll just dump our change in the tips jar. But not the quarters! That's valuable laundry money. :)
• Australia
15 Dec 07
Well thats my whole point in a way if you tip a lot than you cant go eat a lot as you will have to save enough to tip a lot. say you have $100 a mont to go out if you spend $25 on food and tip $10 thats only 2 times a month you can go out instead of 4
• Philippines
5 Dec 07
In our country, tipping is rarely practiced and many companies even discourage it because of their moral/ethical standards. Yet, I feel if the waiter or the bellboy has done a superb job, I give him something to smile about. In my opinion, a tip can range to any price because it must be appreciated as its the intent that matters. The obligation of giving a tip even though you were dissatisfied with a service is truly baseless and a waste of money. Tip if you feel like it... the waiter will appreciate it anyways. TRIVIA to those who doesn't know: TIP is an abbreviation of "To insure promptness".
• Australia
5 Dec 07
nice info there thanks I never knew but I would like to think that people are nice because thats who they are not because I pay them to be nice to me.
• Philippines
6 Dec 07
I am glad to be of service. I pick up the trivia from a TV show a few weeks back. I know the meaning of TIP is rather disappointing but let's be realistic, many employees have favoritism too and they exert more effort for those customers that "shows" appreciation. I sometimes view tipping as a way of a reward for those who work hard even though they're not certain whether they will have a big tip or not... those employees that don't judge you and still treat you well even though you are only wearing a T-shirt and jeans when you eat out in a high end resturant.
• United States
5 Dec 07
i did not know the abbreviation. thanks for the info!!!! :)
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
5 Dec 07
First of the concept of tipping came about When people thought the waiter or waitress, bellhop etc. Did an exceptionally good job and were helpful. That is the way it should be. Then US government wanted to tax tips and so now a lot of larger fancier Not necessairly better class or service set an automatic 15% gratuity requirement. Which I personally feel is wrong because it is about service. If I do not have the service that goes along with tipping I should not have to tip period. It should be up to my discretion how much and if I do tip. It is offensive for establishments to expect or demand a tip when it well may not be deserved. I don't care how low of a wage someone is making if they do a good job fine but a lousy one no tip should be forthcoming. My sister and mom both worked in the resturant buisness and both agree that good service deserves a well earned tip but poor or shoddy or rude service one should not expect a tip nor should an establishment require it.
• Australia
5 Dec 07
Yes I am with you if its compulsory than make it as tax and make it even its not fair that some good workers get $2 an hour and get $2 tips a day and some get $30 an hour and the service is bad and they get 15%.
@bcote212 (1112)
• United States
5 Dec 07
The reason that we americans tip for so many things is because for the people that we tip, the tip is the majority of their income. This is customary. Generally we tip waiters, hairdressers, cab drivers. This is given foe their good work. In my area if you are a waiter you would work for something like $2 an hour, so it is very low income but with good tips these people could make $30,000 per year, which is still below our national average of about $50,000 per year, but it is still considered a pretty good amount of money. Usually I tip about 20% of the bill.
• Australia
5 Dec 07
I get the whole thing with low pay and all that and its very unfair that they have to depend on the customers.
@psyche49f (2502)
• Philippines
5 Dec 07
In our country, tipping is not as prevalent...more often, it is really optional...like in restaurants, hotels...but of course there are really establishments which have hard and fast rules on tipping...but more often than not, I have observed that services from beauty parlors are not really 'tippable", but it's up to the customer whether to give tips or not...even in spas and public conveyances, we don't really do that...well, like you said, times are difficult now, and if the budget for tipping exceeds the principal expenses, then that's quite unreasonably high, and someone should put a limit to it...
• Australia
5 Dec 07
I get it that they are not payed enough but thats not a reason the reason should be "was I happy with the service or not". We go out to dinner about 1 a month and on special occasions (mothers day, fathers day, b'day and aniversity) so that is about 15 times. And we spend about $100 (thats including goods and services tax) if I live 10% that is $150 a year at least.
• United States
5 Dec 07
I honestly think the whole "tipping" thing is getting out of control. i mean it used to be 15% and then people want to look good so they give 18 or 20% and now 20% is becoming the new minimum. i dont mind tipping a couple bucks IF the service is good but people expect to get a tip even if the service is horrible! i know plenty times when service was bad and i felt i HAD to tip becasue then how dare i not leave a tip. and i understand that many people think that the employees cannot live off of minimum wage BUT most of the tips they get are not reported i would assume, its just so easy not to AND if they cant survive off of min wage, im sorry thats not my fault... they should get a btter job. i dont mean to sound rude here but only getting min wage is not my prob. again im not totally against tipping just the expectation of it and the amount. i dont think its necessary to tip someone to doing their job unless they give me good service and still then, its still their job!
• Australia
5 Dec 07
You have some good point here my friend, but some people dont have another option so they have to work there. Better that than doing illegal things.