Exiting the Income Tax scam
By TravisE
@TravisE (440)
United States
December 11, 2007 12:55pm CST
You can take a look at the following video for an interview with a juror from a case that found there was no law that requires private citizens to pay taxes on their income.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_sZj8dZnJI
If you want other resources from the web you can message me, but that is not the central point of this post.
My conundrum is that I want to exit the federal income tax system. But, I work for a large company and there is very little likelihood that they will allow me to do that. I have been going back and forth about the issue for a couple of months now, and think I have come up with a solution. Contracting. If I switch from being an employee of the company, and start working as a contractor, my taxes would be solely my responsibility. Then I could exit the income tax system, and face the battle on my own. The drawback is benefits. I will have to analyze the cost difference and see if it's worth it. But, frankly even if it is a wash I would still feel better about my money if I knew that I was no longer sleeping with the wool over my eyes, put their my the con game the IRS has in place.
What do you guys think?
3 responses
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
12 Dec 07
I hope you can, man.
Few people manage to escape the grasps of the Internal Revenue Service...they're...VERY posessive of the American people's money, even though they have no right to.
If you can't do it by winning a court battle, take to a life on the road, make a new life for yourself that way. See, if you don't live in a set place and have a new job periodically...they can't bill you for taxes.
That's the loophole. If you're an american nomad, you escape "the system"..at least in the broader sense of things.
That's what I intend to do, unless I move out of the country -- which I really don't wanna do.
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@TravisE (440)
• United States
12 Dec 07
Thanks for the hopeful sentiment. I do wish I could do the Jack Kerouac thing and become a Dharma Bum, but I have a elderly mother to take care of, and an amazing wife. So, for now, my location must remain stable. Still, with the growing number of cases being won, and the Supreme Court about to make a ruling which may bring the right to petition back to life, I have high hopes. Cheers!
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
12 Dec 07
Well, I hope you do succeed in that, dearie. If you bring the right to petition back and everyone could get out of taxes if they wanted to...I think it would make alot of us activist/freedom-minded/old fashioned Americans lives a bit more..well easier to breathe in.
I wouldn't mind settling somewhere someday, but when I discovered the IRS was basically stealing from us, I couldn't bear the idea, I HAD to find a way out. I would not allow someone to do that to me as well.
But I also did not enjoy the idea of being forced to live always moving like that...as much as I love traveling, to HAVE to...that doesn't strike me well either lol.
But again, you could very well win. As tough as the odds are, you really could -- and I know people who've gone to jail for refusing to pay taxes, who avoided jail for years doing that..who would benefit from this if you succeed.
I wish you luck, it's a brave and wonderful thing you're doig.
@muncierebel (730)
• United States
11 Dec 07
I wouldn't worry about the lost benefits. I would worry about the cost of your legal team. Even if you win in the end, which I am skeptical of, will the cost of your legal defense outweigh the amount of taxes you didn't pay.
I'm not real keen on paying my taxes either but I'm not sure how you expect to get fire and police protection. And I can't imagine how the roads would be without the tax money.
Just my 2 cents.
@TravisE (440)
• United States
11 Dec 07
Fire and Police protection are not paid for by Federal Income tax. Those are paid for by state sales taxes. Federal Income Tax only goes to pay the federal reserve loan which is a false economy. The federal government contracted to the federal reserve (a collection of private banks and not a governmental agency) to print money. They do so with interest attached and the federal income tax goes to pay that interest. All government services and infrastructure are paid for by other taxes such as sales and gasoline tax.
There are a growing number of cases were folks have won their rights to discontinue the voluntary paying of federal income tax. The link I sent was one case amongst many. There are a growing number of attorneys dedicated to this cause, and who will represent you for less than you might think.
I am fully willing to pay for actual services, but being scammed into paying back a debt to private companies that the government chose to inflict on itself to milk money from the people. I am very down with paying for police, and fire protection, and not for a shell game.
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