Stay Together For The Kids

United States
December 21, 2007 1:51pm CST
I just got done reading a post on how horrible divorce is and it shouldn't be done because the kids suffer. I am amazed at how ignorant and narrow minded so many people who agreed with her are. Someone please tell me how staying married to someone who is mentally or physically abusive is in some way better for the kids? How is it better for your children to see mommy and daddy hitting and yelling at each other all the time? I do agree that a lot of young people foolishly get married and then when something doesn't go their way they immediately want a divorce when in reality they shouldn't have been married in the first place but it in no way benefits a child to have to see two people who can't get along struggle to stay in a marriage neither wants to be in. Marriage lost it's sanctity years ago. It is up to the parents to act like adults and do what it best for the children and if that means not being together then so be it. A child who comes from a broken home has just as much hope of growing up screwed up as one who comes from an unstable home that has both parents in it. Agree, or not?
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
22 Dec 07
I agree with you completely and I have also seen the kind of people you referred to and never understood their reasoning either. I know divorce used to have this big stigma around it but times have changed and it's about time people changed with it. Yes, divorce is not easy on the kids but many times it is the better alternative. I can speak from experience on this one too so it's not just some misplaced opinion.
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• United States
23 Dec 07
I too get passionate about situations I have lived through when I see someone who doesn't have the history spouting off their opinions about it. I don't try to figure out why they feel the way they do but usually I cannot help telling them why their way of thinking is wrong.
@bellaofchaos (11538)
• United States
21 Dec 07
I agree with you more than workds can even begin to say.. I come from a family that my mom and dad seperated and by no means did that play into the outcome. Both parents love me. What made me who i am is their parenting skills or lack there of not them being together. I think I would have been more screwed up if I saw that you stay in a relationship even if there is no love. what is that teaching our kids. And on top just think about it would you want your child to stay with someone that beats them because you don't think it's right for the parents to seperat? And going further in that little scenario do you think it would be right for the child who sees the parent get hit expect that to be normal and put up with that in a relationship? I wouldn't so that is why I agree that divorce is not the problem in raising kids, it's the parenting.
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• United States
23 Dec 07
Exactly! My mother wasn't married to my father. My step father divorced her when I was 5 and I was raised by my great grandmother and grandmother. My ex thinks that our relationship didn't work out because he thinks I didn't learn family values. I know our relationship didn't work out because he was a lazy no good, worthless piece of bovine excrement. I learned more from my grandparents raising me then either of my parents ever could have taught me. But most importantly I learned that a family does not have to consist of a mother and a father under the same roof.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
22 Dec 07
I feel there's no right or wrong way. I agree about staying in a amarriage for the kids' sake but I also agree that the people in an abusive relationship should not be together. I would think the right thing to do would be to take a decision based on each case. Like you pointed out, it's definitely not going to do the child any good to be seeing his/her parents fighting and yelling at each other. But normal families fight too. We need to judge whether the fighting i leads to abusive behaviour and if things can be worked out with professional help...but if it is beyond repair, then they need to be away from each other and that works out best for the child too. I've also seen cases where the parents divorce on very flimsy reasons...they fight over stuff like who sleeps on which side of the bed and then get divorced because they don't see eye to eye! In this case, the child doesn't learn how to adjust with another person and might be involved in these silly fights. Such cases, I feel (and it's my personal opinion) need to be worked out and the child needn't be a witness to this. Arguments I understand....but people really fight over silly things. I don't feel a child from a broken home needs to be screwed up...it totally depends on how the child has been brought up.Sometimes, it works out as the best option for the child when the parents separate and behave like adults and take responsibilty for the child. Sometimes, it's better for the child that only parent takes care of the child. So be it. I wouldn't say divorce or staying together would affect the child. The environment that a child grows up in and how the adults around behave is what is going to affect the child.
• United States
23 Dec 07
Very well said. Thank you for your input.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
26 Dec 07
Thank you for the BR. I've been hearing this divorce is good or bad topic for quite a while now...and some couples who divorce just to prove a point and I hate that. And people being judged on the fact that they are divorced (without even being aware of the reasons) - I think that's so mean...I mean the parents are having a hard time with the kids (being a single parent is tough) and to top that someone who doesn't even know the situation judges you! I feel that's another discussion topic and someone should post on that!
• India
22 Dec 07
Hi ... yes u r right.totally i agree with u.i think ur msg will be change some people.after my marriage i never quarrel with my wife especially before my childrens.n also i will tel about ur msg to my frnds.awesome msg u did.thanx for it.
• United States
23 Dec 07
Thank you. If my post makes just one person wake up and see what their situation is doing to their children and then does something to change it then I couldn't ask for more. If my message prevents a couple from heading down the path I describe I'm glad. I know what it is like to be so angry that you can't focus on anything but your own personal rage. If my message makes just one person stop and look around at the wide sad eyes of their kids and it stops them from going further then my work here is done.
@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
24 Dec 07
I agree that divorce is a last resort but I agree with you too that you shouldn't stay with someone for the kids. In the end, you are probably making it WORSE for the kids by faking it. They can tell when their parents don't love each other, or even worse, hate each other. I do believe many people get married too quickly nowadays, I'm not one of them. We dated for 5+ years before getting married this year. I often threaten him with things I would do to him if he ever left me ;) Haha, but we both know that won't happen because we spent years discussing how we would like our life to be and we agree on all the important points. Anyway, I agree with you. With so many divorced families around now, it's not as tramatic for kids as it used to be.
• United States
24 Dec 07
Thank you for your response. Divorce is more common nowadays than it has ever been. Just look at Pam Anderson, she gets married and divorced more often than I get my nails done. I married my first husband quickly and realized what a mistake that was shortly afterwards. I spent over 7 years with the next guy and thank god I had the common sense never to marry him. The guy I'm with now we have only been together a little over a year but we are so alike that I would swear we share one brain. I see wedding bells in our future.
@theprogamer (10532)
• United States
22 Dec 07
Thank you. Staying in marriage just for the kids is completely backwards. The couple should try to work out their issues yes, but if it can't be worked out a divorce maybe needed. In worse cases there is spousal abuse and the children certainly should not be subject to that. Unfortunately this kind of situation will keep happening (the severity depends on where you are). In my part of the world divorce is a cash industry for the person causing the first strike (about 66-75% women start divorce, reasons vary, alimony/court-orders range from 50-80% some cases higher). Its also a cash industry for the lawyers, "family" courts, and local/state governments. Its somewhat hard to see, but plenty of people have been completely and unfairly destroyed by the parties listed. Its even worse since some people do marry for hideous, hidden reasons (divorce after a year or so - "starter husband", and/or divorce to financially devastate a partner). The only other thing I will add is that children should have both parents in their life after divorce, provided they aren't dangerous or otherwise significantly detrimental to the children. I've seen cases where a vindictive parent will move away and/or outright defy court visitation orders just to get back at an ex. These children are basically hurt by lack of one parent and the vindictive nature of the custody parent (telling falsehoods, brainwashing, using them as weapons at an ex). Children in this scenario will likely end up very disturbed and likely to carry terrifying traits to their adult life. Society should be aware of this.
@vanities (11395)
• Davao, Philippines
22 Dec 07
very well said!! yes i think..but we really cant avoid some people who thinks like that too,for which they think it is right to be together inspite of mutaul indifferces just for the sake of the children..we must respect them for whatever choices in their life .... but for me i would rather go for a mutual relationship/respect bet. husband and wife ..
• United States
23 Dec 07
That's a problem I have that I really don't intend to work on it. When someones beliefs are so far from the reach of sanity I just feel compelled to point out to them why their way of thinking is wrong. I do it in the hopes of if they find themselves in that type of situation one day they don't tolerate it for the "sake of the kids" and stay in a dangerous situation and expose their children to it.
@Kowgirl (3490)
• United States
22 Dec 07
Staying with an abusive spouse does far more damage to a child than getting a divorce. It shows strength and they recognise this. Even if the abuse is verbal it will eventually lead to physical abuse and they could be putting the child or children in danger. If people would take the time to get to know one another better before they get married,there would be less getting married so young thus less divorces. But even after dating for 2 years a person may still change for the worse after marriage. Have a SAFE and Happy Holiday
• United States
23 Dec 07
I spent damn near a decade with a man before he turned into the vile, evil, creature he is today. Both people eventually change when they are in relationships. It is up to each individual to decide how much they are going to change and whether it is going to be changes for the better or worse. Thanks for the approval and Happy Holidays to you as well.
• Malaysia
22 Dec 07
i agree with you.my parents always fight with each other since i was young until i became an adult now.it has been more than 10 years but they never stop.actually it is because of my father.my mother regretted of marrying him.but she didn't get divorce because of me and my sister.she do not want us grown up without a father. actually i do not even need him as my father.he also never treated us like his family.i will be happier without him.because he brought a lot of problems and sufferness to us.when i was young i could not accept to see them fighting.until i started to become moody and emotionally unstable. i was lucky as my friend helped me a lot.now i do not really bother about them anymore.now i am studying in a university which is far away from my house.i only come back during semester holidays.during those period i was alone in my university i was so happy and relieved as finally i am not stressed anymore and get my freedom. even when i come back during holidays he will purposely find reasons to fight.i a so sick of it.sometimes i think i should not come back at all.but i had to because i wanted to save all the expenses during holidays
• United States
21 Dec 07
I totally agree with you. Staying married for the sake of the kids is not better. Even if you dont fight around the kids they can sometimes pick up on things. If you think things can still be worked out ok great then go ahead and try. But you shouldnt put your kids through that kind of torture. Especially if your in an abusive marriage/relationship. I Know a little boy who seen him mother hit several times and it really has scarred him. Parents needs to think about whats best for their children on down the road.
• United States
23 Dec 07
Another thank you! My sons saw more than I ever wished they would have and while I don't see any negative effects now I do know that it has effected them. Their father is no longer around and when someone asks them if they miss their daddy they tell the person No they don't because he was a bad mean man who hurt mommy. You live you learn, and that is one lesson I will never forget.
• China
22 Dec 07
I think some day, I will not quarrel with my husband, at least quarrel before the kid. Because kids will be hurt and they will think about the quarrel for some time, that will affect their mood a lot. In order to give a better environment to them, we should treat the kids very well and care about their mental development.
• United States
23 Dec 07
I just hope that your husband is on the same page and wants the same thing for the child. It is hard not to argue with someone when they get in your face while you are cooking dinner and the kids are at the table doing their homework. One parent can't make the decision not to do something if the other parent doesn't want to agree to it. But it's a good plan. Hope it works out for you.