Baby is born with 2 moms and 2 dads

@estherlou (5015)
United States
December 30, 2007 11:02am CST
Apparently two gay men mixed up their sperm so they wouldn't know who was the donor and fertilized a donor egg and implanted it into a surrogate mother. So, now, all 4 are parents of a new baby! Talk about a possible future messy situation! http://www.arcamax.com/religiousnews/s-280534-965207
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23 responses
• Canada
30 Dec 07
Despite all the negative comments, I think it's a wonderful thing. I'm very happy for both couples. And if this child does have some sort of disorder in the future like someone asked, then I'm sure a simple dna test will resolve any confusion. But that's a BIG if. This child will grow up in a loving environment, to be accepting of people's choices and I'm sure will lead a normal, happy life.
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• United States
31 Dec 07
Thank you for your positive response. A child that is so wanted that extraordinary measures are taken to conceive it is blessed indeed.
@II2aTee (2559)
• United States
7 Jan 08
Momma this is the second post of yours I have read this morning, and the second time you made my day. What an amazing person you are, I hope your kids know how lucky they are to have such a cool mom! All my best, Tee
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• Canada
5 Jan 08
I absolutely 100% agree!!!
@mssnow (9484)
• United States
30 Dec 07
Just like anyone else who wants a child and can't. People will always go to great lengths and spend lots of money to make it happen. I think they have a right to raise a child as anyone else does. As long as they know the RIGHT way to raise them. There are plenty of people who have children only to abuse them.
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• United States
30 Dec 07
The child is blessed with two loving parents. That is one more than most.I think it is great that gay men and women who never thought they could be biological parents get the opportunity to do so.Also I think it is great that there are women out there who are willing to donate an egg and carry a child that isn't theirs. Isn't this what religious and conservative people want, more children in the world. And unlike the child born to a parent that Never wanted the child, this child was wanted.And he is blessed with 4 loving people as parents. I have been saying for a while that it would be great if the fertilized egg could be taken out and planted into someone who wants it, abortions would be less needed.And here is this story. I wonder if there would be this fuss if it was a straight couple's baby?I hope not. Gay or straight , if you want children and you have the means, because I know these procedures are expensive,and opportunity to try, they should do it. But I could see where it could be a legal mess if the mother who donated the eggs wanted her child.I don't think the surrogate would have any chance at custody. And there are DNA tests that can be done on the baby to tell which guy is the biological father.But I don't see it happening. For now the baby has Two loving parents and that s all that matters.
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• Canada
5 Jan 08
You bring up a good point. This sort thing happens all the time among the heterosexuals and there isn't much discussion in the news about unless an egg donor changes her mind after the fact or there's a dispute with compensation. (Although it is now illegal to compensate in Canada) I almost became a surrogate mother for both a heterosexual and homosexual couple. The first became pregnant on their own before I was implanted and the second changed his mind due to financial strains. In both cases, the clinics were filled with people yearning to have a baby. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a couple or even a single person to go to 'extreme' measures to fulfill their desire to have a family.
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• United States
5 Jan 08
Momma, you are a saint. Being a surrogate is such a beautiful thing.That is truly the gift of life.I agree, there are so many people who want to be parents and they would be great parents but biology lets them down.
@slickcut (8141)
• United States
30 Dec 07
Wait a minute...Ok two gay guys mixed up their sperm and planted it into one woman..That would be 2 fathers and one mother that is only three parents,how did you get four parents? Did they implant their sperm into two women?
• United States
5 Jan 08
The egg came from one woman, an egg donor, and once it was fertalized, it was implanted into another woman, the surrogate, to carry the baby.
• United States
30 Dec 07
I don't know why people are allowed to legally do this with human beings. It is very sick to me.
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@cynddvs (2948)
• United States
30 Dec 07
I have a feeling this could come back to bite them in the butt one day. What if the child had some sort of genetic disorder. Wouldn't they need to know who the biological parents are? I mean I can understand why they would want to do things this way but at the same time knowing for sure who the biological parents are could be very important.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
31 Dec 07
that was sort of stupid of them to do that and where did the 2nd mom come in I only count 3 people involved in this
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
6 Jan 08
oh my I answered this after I had just got up and didnt see it. need to get more awake when answering posts lol
• United States
5 Jan 08
Woman who donated the egg and the woman who is carrying the baby are two different people.
• United States
5 Jan 08
Straight couples have used this method before to have children when the woman was not able to concieve or carry a child. Those kids end up haveing anywhere from 3 to 5 parents if your gong to count an egg or sperm donor, the surrogate, plus the two adults who raise the child. People are only making a fuss because the two adults raising the kid are gay. Heck, every kid that is adopted has 4 parents, too, technically, just two of them are unable or unwilling to actually raise the child. I think a kid who is given up for adoption would end up with a lot more emotional issues (insecurity, abandoment, etc)than this kid that so many people work so hard to bring into this world. I wish people would not use the "what's best for the child" argument as a mask for their own prejudiced arguments. You don't like people who live the gay lifestyle because you find it gross? Fine, at least be honest and say that is your problem and don't try to hide it behind "concern" for a child who's parents used a fertility clinic.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
31 Dec 07
This is sick. I feel sorry for the child. He or she will grow up with two men, one of which is his real father, and will not know whether men should be with women, or men with men. The child will not know his or her birth mother and the surrogate mother will be thrown aside after being given a sum of money. As for the birth mother, she will be left wondering where her child is. The birth father and the birth mother are the parents of the child, so what I hope will happen is the birth father decide to leave the homosexual lifestyle, and get with the birth mother. But to for a child to have four parents is just some sick social experimentation and that child will be a victim for it. And some people think it is so wonderful.
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
31 Dec 07
Gay people were raised by straight parents. My lord, you are sooooooooooooooo blind and soooooooooooooooooooooo wrong about everything in this topic. It is so frustrating. Jiminey, I wish God would open your brain. You are too nice a person and too smart to act so stupid about this subject. GET A CLUE!!
• United States
5 Jan 08
Actually, mommaofalltrades, I have to disagree with you about the "being gay is a choice" part of your argument. All of my gay friends will attest that they have always been gay (ie born that way), the only choice involved is if the person hides the fact through public and/or self-denial, or chooses to be themselves. If this baby is going to be gay, it is pretty much already hardwired into him (most think that it is the hormones that the fetus is exposed to in the womb that really causes homosexuality, not DNA). Since most gay people are born to and raised by straight couples, you can't really say that his parentage is going to overly influence his sexuality. The only real difference is that, if he is gay, he will not feel scared or ashamed to admit it to his parents once he realizes it.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
31 Dec 07
Sorry I meant just he, but there is a chance that being raised by two homosexuals, the child might turn out like them and I am not talking about hair color, complexion, and build. Sneaky way to increase the homosexual population, well if it worked in Sodom and Gomorrah, it might work here.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
30 Dec 07
Forget about the future, you confused people right here in the present...lol...they can't figure out how you came up with 4 parents! This is a tricky topic for me because, while I have no problem with gay couples or individuals for that matter having children I admit I have mixed feelings about all these "non-traditional" ways of conception. I know I can't speak for anyone else and having never been in the situation of not being able to have my own child I'm sure it's painful for someone who really wants a baby badly. They'll go to any length to have a child that's their own flesh and blood, I guess. What I'm trying to say is "I get it" but at the same time I know there are so many chldren who could be adopted. Not so many perfectly healthy newborns with no special needs but thousands of older children who are doomed to grow up in foster care until they age out to never be heard from or thought of again. I'm sorry if this seems off-topic but my point is we really wouldn't need to have this kind of "future messy situation" if we stopped treating babies as some kind of an industry where someone is making a big profit and human beings are being "produced" like a piece of merchandise to be fought over later. Annie
• Canada
5 Jan 08
I hear many people ask "why not just adopt! There are loads of children in need of a loving home." Yes that is sooooo true! Have you ever tried to apply for adoption? It's not easy and if you have ANY skeletons in your closet, it becomes even harder!! My husband and I are desperate for more children. I have two from a previous relationship, he has none. Unfortunately we are dealing with fertility issues on both our parts so it's become very difficult to even imagine us hold a newborn baby of our own. We've looked into adoption however since I have come from an extremely abusive past, I am denied any and all applications I've put through for adoption or even foster care. You'd think I would have the benefit of understanding abuse or they would at least send me for an evaluation to ensure I've oversome these issues. NOPE! I'm being punished for someone else's stupidity. Now with that said, I can only imagine what other reasons they deny people's application, and I'm sure homosexuality is one of them. They might not come flat out and say it but there is still a lot of racism, discrimination and injustice in this world. It just wouldn't surprise me.
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@Drumman (305)
• United States
31 Dec 07
I wish I had some way to keep track of these 4 people and their baby and report back here about what's going on in their train wreck of a life in five years.
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
31 Dec 07
well, my brother and his partner had a surrogate child 5 years ago. She's a perfectly healthy happy child who has two fathers who love her and one mother who loves her. Maybe that can tell you what is likely to happen 5 years from now.
• United States
30 Dec 07
THe baby only has two parents. The biological mother and father. The surogate mother is not the baby's mother.
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@asgtswife04 (2475)
• United States
31 Dec 07
That is just insane. I can't stand to hear of stories like that. It really makes me sick. My opinion though i reckon. Thanks for sharing it though and God bless. I feel sorry for that child. It definitely could get very messy.
@chrislotz (8137)
• Canada
9 Jan 08
A little weird if you ask me. How is this child to grow up. Talk about one mixed up family. If this situation is not handled properly this child will need a lot of professional help. I think. I wonder who will raise the child, probably the gay couple, which will be hard enough, but to have all these parents. I feel for the child.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
31 Dec 07
Gee, this is interesting, but as someone else noted, no different that a child who's parents divorce and then they now have 4 parents to deal with when the first ones remarry. Only difference here, is do you tell your child all of this and confuse their life or do you keep it secret and hope your child never finds out? Too me, being a surragate mother could leave a lot of unanswered questions for all in the future.
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
31 Dec 07
My brother and his partner used a surrogate to have their second child. She's five now and a happy, well adjusted kid. She has two fathers and a mother who love her very much. Maybe the (anti) Family research Council should take a look at all the great kids that gay couples are raising. Maybe they should realize that families come in all forms.
@villageanne (8553)
• United States
31 Dec 07
What will they think of next??? Don't answer that, I really dont want to know. People are getting weirder and weirder all the time. It is such a scary world to live in these days and gettting more scary each day.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
31 Dec 07
I think this is really great! I'm assuming that the two women weren't just random strangers they picked so I totally understand how this child will have 4 parent...the couple primarily raising the child, the biological mother, and the woman who carried and gave birth to the child. Assuming that they are all close and will all be raising the child together I think the child is pretty lucky. Not many kids have parents who went to such great lengths to have them or have 4 parents (making the comparison to step-parents) who all love and respect each other so much.
@blackbriar (9076)
• United States
31 Dec 07
I'm sorry, but with all the orphaned kids in this world living in foster homes and orphanages just hoping and praying that someone would come and take them into a loving and nurturing home, this should never of happened. Yes, it would be harder for them to adopt, but it is possible.
@naty1941 (2336)
• United States
30 Dec 07
It sure is an interesting bit of news. It takes all kinds of people to make this world. They sure went to a lot of expense to have this baby. Hopefully, they will be great parents.