Welfare! Please read entire post not just tag line......

When talking of welfare and handouts, it's easy to forget that this is also given in one form or another to businesses, farmers, the economy, 3rd world countries, you name it. Hand-outs, compensation, cash injections, bail out, subsidies, however you want to call it, is given by the government, to more than just the poor, and there is a potential for abuse in all cases. But it is deemed necessary as part of a bigger picture. As the government is intended to be 'for the people' I'm ok with government aid to the people, and don't see why we'd consider this more harmful than the 'welfare' provided in other areas.

I'm not against the system at all, except like you said, the ones that abuse the system. I know that there are many people out there that really need the help...me being one of them at one point in my life. There has to be a system like this for those people in need. What irritates me are the people that are living off welfare and doing nothing what so ever to support their families. Circumstances come up, we all know that, but if you are just having babies to get more money from the government and not holding a job down or doing anything what so ever to help your family, then you are abusing the system. That makes me mad because there are people out there that are really needing the assistance who aren't getting it because someone else has taken away from them that isn't even trying to support their families. I do think that it needs to be monitored better. i know here you get cash assistance for 18 months, but they make you either take classes on how to work or something like that. I'm not sure what the food stamp and insurance is here now, but i know you have to go and get reapproved every six months. I think that is really good if your being honest about what your making and what your doing. Thanks for the discussion and God bless

I think that welfare, food stamps, ect are there for people when they need it. They should not be lived off of. In our area there is welfare to work. People who are on welfare have a certain amount of time (I believe it is 5 years) to get off, during that process the welfare office helps those people receive the training and skills they need to get off of welfare. To me, that is fair. They are helping you out and asking you to help yourself.

There is a theory out there that Everyone (regardless of race or creed) has a Basic right to food and shelter. This would mean that society guarantee Everyone these 2 basic rights. Also there is myth out there that there is not enough food and shelter to go around for everyone. This is wrong. Our society consists mostly of those people who have Much more than they need to support a good lifestyle. Yes I know- these people have worked hard to get where what they have. But wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone had enough to eat and a good roof over their heads!

I'm not against the 2 year welfare program that they have now except they cut out the other help programs that went with it. At least, they did down here. As it stands now, as long as you have a child under the age of 2 you can collect welfare. There is also a limit to how many kids you can collect on. That is to keep women from having 12 kids and staying on welfare forever. It used to be, when you went on welfare, you were eligible to get help getting your GED and other training programs. They had classed that taught you how to go on interviews and write a resume and how to dress for success etc. That is all gone now. When the kid turns 2, you are on the street as far as anyone is concerned. They do not care. If you want more help, you are just a mooch. A lot of these mothers never finished school and really need that GED and the other training to get a job. So they get pregnant again and stay on welfare a little longer.

Obviously the woman here breed before needing help so a discussion I have going right now that would probably boil your blood is best left on my page. I have said what feels like a billion times now that people who need help because they fall on inevitable circumstances should be free to seek help that is available to them. But think about this.... If we could take everyone who was abusing the system out of it, can you even imagine what that would do for not only the people who truly are deserving of the benefits but the states who are giving the benefits to them? Billions of dollars wouldn't have to be sunk into welfare and then maybe schools would get some much needed assistance, roads would be fixed, businesses would start coming into the area because there would be a larger job market, and so much more. I still think welfare needs to set limitations. (Just one example or I will be in your post all day) I don't know the welfare regulations but the average person is supposed to be able to eat on some insane amount of like $7 a day. If you have a family of 4 eating on $7 a day for 31 days that is over $850 dollars that person is getting for food a month. I am a family of 6 and I barely spend half of that on food in a month. If someone on welfare was getting for arguments sake say $500 a month for food then 3 months later knew that amount was going to be decreased to $300 then 3 months later knew they were going to cap out their benefits at $200 you would assume they would begin to make better choices in what they bought. Instead of spending $6 on a case of soda every other day they would encourage their kids to drink more water and milk and invest in some sugar for kool-aid. They would begin to buy in bulk. like a 5 lb. box of rice for $3 instead of a 1 lb. box of rice for $1.99. They would use the stove in their kitchen to actually make meals instead of popping a frozen dinner in the microwave that costs as much to buy. With just a little reform people would be forced to grow up and be adults rather then continue to be given permission to sit on their butts being lazy taking every handout they can find. It is very rarely the people who work for a living that fall on hard times and need a little help that stick around on the system long enough to abuse it. They take the help to make sure their families are healthy and their kids are fed and meanwhile they go out and get another job so they don't have to be on the system any longer than necessary. These people I admire. These people deserve it. Unfortunately for these people, they are in the minority when it comes to the welfare system. It is usually the actions of others that ultimately ruin it for the people truly deserving. Since there is no "legal" way to sort them out unfortunately I feel that everyone must suffer before any good can come of it.

This may come out wrong and I don't mean it to so if it does it is not anything against anyone- just my experience and thoughts. I'm pretty sick of the abuse of the welfare system and because of people who do it- people who have worked for many years can't get any help. I went through it for medical for my daughter and when I was pregnant with her. My then husband and I were in the bar/restaurant business which most of the time means-no insurance and we couldn't afford to pay 400.00 a month for medical insurance. So I thought the best thing to do was apply for medical aid- which I got only because I was pregnant and it was cut off pretty much as soon as I had my baby. I had paid my taxes for 15 years on time and when I still needed the Aid they said I was done. But people who live in the ghetto or slums just automatically get it or feel that it is owed to them and haven't worked a day in their life. This is how they make money and they ruin for the hard working Americans who need it. Sometimes I feel much of it is based on race, take a look at your local welfare office and tell me how many white people you see. Not many- the best part of welfare is that they give it to illeagal immigrants who can't even take the time to learn English..It just frustrates me and thankfully I have medical insurance because all the red tape and aggravation is not worth the measley amount of money or food that they do give you..I hope I didn't offend.