Would You Support the Border Fence...

The way I see it, these people risk life and limb everyday to get over here. Surely, they are not going to let a little wall stop them.

Yeah. And there have been many waves of immigrants in the country's history. If the government wasn't screwing up the economy so badly, immigration would not be seen as such a big problem. They're just a easy target, and a distraction from the real issues, when things are not going well.

I agree merrydew it is all an over reaction! Is immigration really that bad? More people moving to our country seems like a good thing, especially when you think that it could be the complete opposite. Well put! - Matthew

The more of the that we let in and make legal, the more they take over and the ones that were born here are pushed out.

Do you realize we can't just go live in their country either. You have to show a proof of income that shows you can support yourself there and you will not be a burden to their country, I believe you can not make less than $1,800 a month. You can also buy property there but you can not have it in your name. You have to leave it in the banks name, and pay them around $2,000 US dollars to do so, and also pay a yearly fee for them to keep it in their name on your behalf. You also have to get a FM-3 visa to be there longer than 3 month, which you will pay about $150 year on. And God help you if you try to buy or license a car there, they have more forms and fees then the car is worth. And for any interaction you have to have with Mexican official you are expected to bring along and pay for your own interpreter because they will only speak their official language in their government offices. And no you cannot push #2 for English, you are expected to learn the language or tote around your own interpreter. And just in case you're stupid enough to sneak into mexico illegally...you get 3 years in prison before being deported.

I think that is a little outrageous. The day immigrants literally force you out of the country and you leave, please let me know. With all amazing land we have, I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Another comment on immigration is that Americans treat it like the rest of the world simply isn't entitled to our great land. But realistically, we are all immigrants from Europe (well, most of us), and either way we immigrated here at one point. The high and mighty idea of not letting immigrants in is simply absurd.

"Acts of war"! OMG! ParaTed2k, we do not only need to reprogram you with reality, we also need to refresh your memory in US History! Tsk, tsk, tsk!

Ok, what do you call it when the troops of one country cross the border of another country without permission? That is called an "act of war". Of course, in the wimpy, gutless world of PC speak, it's probably just called "uninvited guests".

"Cross the border of another country without permission." - That is a good one, ParaTed2k. The only problem here is, whose border and whose country! I think it is about time that mainstream America knows that these Mexican "illegals" do not consider themselves "illegals". That is right! Do you remember fews years ago, when Mexican president Fox gave his Mexican folks days rations and encouraged them to go to the USA? Vicente Fox was indeed telling his people to go and reclaim their lands that was taken away years ago! And as a matter of fact, Mexicans, down in the South, consider everyone else an illegal on their land. I think what people do not understand is that, these people never relinquished their lands to the USA. There are, in fact, Mexican groups, whose sole purpose is to reclaim their lands from the USA! And the truth be told: They have already reclaimed some portions - such as Texas!

I don't know if I would see the people crossing as pests or new neighbors. I hope I would see them as new neighbors if I had lived there for all my life.

I would think that having to deal with all of those people sneaking across the border and disturbing their property, they would be glad to get money for relocation. I know I would. But, you are right, a fence would not work, people are too desperate to get over here to let a fence stop them.

Very well said! They passed legislation to build a fence that's about 1/4 of the length of the U.S./ Mexican border; why didn't this surprise me in the least? Annie

Maybe we should pull our troops out of Iraq and send them over to help in Mexico. At least then we can feel like they are accomplishing something. I still don't have any idea what they are fighting for in Iraq.

Rozie, you're absolutely right IMHO. Bush keeps changing his reasons why we're in Iraq so how could you or I understand why we're there? Annie

It's hard to keep up with the numbers when, as far as I know, the fence hasn't even been built, hasn't even been started yet. Also, there are hundreds of lawsuits pending according to what I heard on TV last evening. Annie

You are not the first, Xfahctor, to be surprised by my responses. If, however, you will simply remember that Netsbridge is a voice for humanity, then you will begin to understand some of the logic behind my responses. I am non-partisan; I am simply a commonsense logician - I simply accept the good and fair of ideas.

... I simply accept the good and fair of ideas with respect to time.

Hey net, long time no see. I must say, you suprised me with this one. I had you pegged against it, welcome to the dark side, lol!

(Laughs) Soccermom, your husband ought to be writing some obstacle scripts for the "Men in Black"!

Well, I wouldn't be so sure about them being "highly compensated". Especially with the current Administration I'm sure they'd pay the lowest possible price. I understand illegal immigration is a problem and that it's a worse problem in some states than in others but I think we have other problems that are far more serious, all things considered. Everything we use being made in China has a much bigger negative impact on our economy than illegal immigrants do. Annie

Thanks so much for your input here, Rozie, you're exactly the kind of person I wanted to hear from! In this discussion and another one on illegal immigration I posted awhile back I admitted that not living in a border state I may not fully understand the importance of this issue. I do see your point and understand where you're coming from. Annie

I agree, and I'm sure what the government offers people for their homes wouldn't necessarily be a fair amount, especially if it's a family homestead and has deep emotional and sentimental value. Also, there are some cases among the suits that have been filed where there is property involved from which someone made their living, some are well-established businesses and I doubt very much these people will be offered enough to compensate for what is in some instances a lifetime of hard work. Some in our government talk a good game about rewarding those who work hard and start their own businesses but if it doesn't serve their purpose that goes right out the proverbial window. Annie

All that rambling and I forgot to say, I don't have an answere to the problem. But I know a fence isn't going to work. We need to find a way to get the illegals out and keep them out.