Has the "vast right wing conspiracy" taken a hard left?
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
January 28, 2008 3:02pm CST
A decade ago, then First Lady, Hillary Clinton warned the world of a "vast right wing conspiracy". Democrats who supported Prs. Clinton and the media cheered her for exposing that apparent tightknit, yet loose network. The goal of the VRWC was clear... to bring down her husband.
Now it's Hillary's turn to set her butt in the big chair in the Oval Office. But wait, there are democrats who dare challenge her "right" to that chair. They're pompous enough to think they deserve it as much as her.
So what is happening? Obama is going after her with both barrels blazing and Edwards has his hat in the "I'm better than Hillary" ring. Niether seemed to have gotten the memo that it's Hillary's turn.
Now we have major players in the Pro Clinton camp coming out of the woodwork, supporting (gasp!) her competition. Even Ted Kennedy has jilted Clinton for the younger man. Not only has he supported Obama, but he has told the world why. Because he is "disgusted" that Hillary has stooped to dishonesty in the campaign.
I think you gotta work pretty hard to disgust Ted Kennedy. Way to go Hillary!
Could it be that it took the bristling feel of the Clinton's crosshairs on fellow Democrat backs to get those Democrats to see what the "vast right wing conspiracy" has known all along?
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6 responses
@urbandekay (18278)
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28 Jan 08
No, it may come as a shock to you but both your parties are extremely right wing. Though neither of them have practised a free market economy in office. They are, if you like, limp wristed conservatives fiscally but socially hard right.
all the best urban
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Jan 08
How is the devout Marxist, Hillary Clinton hard right? She only makes overtures to the right because she knows she'd be shot at if she instituted her true socialist plans all at once.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
29 Jan 08
He means both American parties are conservative compared to Europe. To which I can only say, Thank God.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Jan 08
ah, ok, I can go along with that.. and I agree, Thank God!
@bravenewworld (746)
• United States
29 Jan 08
You seem to enjoying this just a little too much. 8^D
It would be interesting to see if the VRWC goes after Obama if he is nominated, and in particular if he becomes president. Maybe it won't and he'll be treated with some respect; in which case, maybe we'll the anti-Clinton stuff was specific to them and perhaps justified. Then again, maybe the VRWC will try to bring down Obama also; an indication that Republicans just can't abide a Democrat in the White House.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Jan 08
Yeah, I am enjoying her getting treated as an equal, and not handling it well. ;~D
Of course the right wing will go after Obama, just like the left wing will go after whoever gets the Republican nomination.
It was bad before, but now that we have groups like MoveOn.org and Newsmax, well, it's gone from amature to professional proportions.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
29 Jan 08
The thing about Obama is that, so far at least, he is 'clean'. That is, honest, not corrupt. Both Clintons have committed several felonies. They have only avoided jail by legal maneuvering and hiring private investigators to get embarassing info on the people trying to have them prosecuted or who could testify against them. There have also been alegations of the hiring of 'thugs' for intimidation. This is not unusual for a known rapist (Bill Clinton) and his enabler (Hillary Clinton).
This 'bad behavior' by the Clintons is what caused there to be a VRWC in the first place.
Obama can be debated on the issues. There is no need to go into the corruption issue of which I'm aware. This is a relief to ordinary people on the right. We would rather deal with an opponent on the issues. In Obama's case there will not be a VSRW conspiracy to 'get' him because he is a decent guy and there is nothing to 'get'. We on the right welcome that.(Most of us, anyway.)
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Jan 08
While most of what you say is true, the conspirators on both extremes don't care about anything but the little letter that comes after the person's name. If any democrat wins, you'll see the far right sniffing for anything they can find. If a republican wins, the far left will be doing the same.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
28 Jan 08
Hillary Clinton has a lot of shady activity in her past. The VRWC has pointed these things out over and over, to no avail. If Obama could merely bring up these same points and cause something to come of it, he might convince a lot of formerly Republican and even conservative voters that he is a man who can get something done. Obama could win the nomination and the election by bringing down the Clintons when so many others have tried and failed.
Go Obama, get Hillary, sic'em!
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@mkirby624 (1598)
• United States
29 Jan 08
The last thing we need is another Clinton in the white house. We don't need another Bush either, so I'm voting far away from Clinton and any Bush-alikes.
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@mkirby624 (1598)
• United States
31 Jan 08
Not only another family, but someone who is going to bring about change and not just continue on with the current plan...which is obviously not working.
I noticed your icon shows you support McCain. He's basically just another Bush. He loves war, he wants to grant amnesty (he says he doesn't, but he might as well admit to it. Just because they are "God's children too" doesn't mean our tax money should go to help them) to the illegals, and he's stubborn as a mule.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
30 Jan 08
Yup, I've liked both Bushes and don't like either Clinton. Either way, it's time to put another family in the White House.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
29 Jan 08
Hillary was certainly right back then, but I don't think that has anything to do with what's going on in the campaign today. I don't like the way the Clintons have been handling this campaign either and I'm not afraid to admit it but that doesn't change history. There is no "conspiracy" now against Hillary, especially a "left-wing" conspiracy, it's just politics and unfortunately politics turn dirty sometimes and people choose sides. Many members of the Kennedy family have chosen Obama which when you think about it, it really isn't that surprising.
I'm a Democrat and a fairly liberal one at that - or so I've been told - but I've said all along I wasn't sure Hillary would be my first choice although I was a big supporter of President Clinton when he as in the White House and long for those days again. But, this isn't "those days" and we can't go back. Obama has managed to strike a chord with many of us in recent months and I have a feeling he's going to be the next President and I think that will be a great thing for the entire world!
Annie
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Jan 08
The Clintons haven't changed at all. They're just not used to not being treated like royalty. Bill Clinton wasn't treated any worse than Ronald Reagan or George Bush Sr., or even Jimmy Carter for that matter.
"it's hard". It's hard alright. It's hard when she actually has to put up with what everyone else has had to put up withe for decades.
@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
29 Jan 08
Didn't anyone tell you Ted? Just like with some of feminism its all due to "The Patriarchy" and the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" is just a faction of said patriarchy. XD
But really, when it comes to Hillary, its never her fault, everyone's "picking on her", and/or its all a conspiracy. Its saddening to see any politician act this way above all else. Yea the majority of the politicians are scumbags, but to act even more like a child and trying to use that to get votes (and distract from REAL issues) thats pretty much as low as it gets in terms of getting campaigning. I guess it cant occur to her mind and a few others that their ideas, their plans, their history might be reasons people want nothing to do with them.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Jan 08
Yup, she's like the high school athelete who fights to make the varsity team coed, then whines when they "hit the girl".
