Do You Trust Physicists?
By AD11RGUY
@AD11RGUY (1265)
United States
February 11, 2008 10:54pm CST
When it comes to learning about life here on planet Earth, who do you trust? Or what do you trust? When it comes down to what sustains life here and how the Earth regulates it all, I like to learn from people who study it for a living or are acknowledged at a professional level fir their efforts if it is their hobby. Being concerned with the climate, I decided to look up the final tally for the year 2007 and where it stands on the list of warmest years. It was predicted to be the hottest. Here are the scientific results:
http://motls.blogspot.com/2008/01/2007-warmest-year-on-record-coldest-in.html
So, what do you think about these reports? Is life here on Earth going to be okay?
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
12 Feb 08
That's a really interesting web site you found there. Given the info there is probably correct, life on earth is going to be okay.
Unless, the people who knee jerk respond to every manipulative deceitful scientific alarmist get control of the world.
That was a good job refuting one on that other thread. Thanks, I appreciated it.
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@AD11RGUY (1265)
• United States
13 Feb 08
It was my pleasure! There seemed to be a thread of rationality there, so I went for it. Hopefully it was received with an analytical mind. As for the article, well, I think you know by now that when there is more discussed, I find it cause for more to be researched. So much factual information out there. But, it does require one to dig past all the crop nutrients.
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@Ciniful (1587)
• Canada
12 Feb 08
Life on earth? Depends. Human beings will die out eventually, just like every species does. Eventually the climates will change to such a drastic degree that we won't be able to adapt further, and we'll die off.
The earth, however, will be fine. It was here for millions and millions of years before us. It'll be here for millions after us.
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@AD11RGUY (1265)
• United States
13 Feb 08
Actually, I couldn't agree more. All things pass and no one knows when these events will occur. But as you point out, the Earth will outlast us all. We can't hurt it. We can't make it do what we want it to do. We can only live to the best of our ability within its confines.
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@visitorinvasion (7709)
• United States
2 Mar 08
Like everything else, I take into consideration whose payroll the speaker/researcher is on before deciding credibility. I notice in this case, the blogger mentions that the mainstream news media has stated the exact opposite of the truth, as usual.
Hmmm...snow in Baghdad, Hawaii, and California?
That's global warming?
@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
14 Feb 08
I don't completely trust anyone, but if it came down to it, scientific history is a basis for what I trust when it comes to science. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm finding scientists have their biases; I'm one to review whats said but be careful of what's being claimed.
I wholeheartedly believe that some scientists, groups and people do a disservice to this topic when they shut debate down with their incomplete claims...
(debate is "over")
(if you don't believe you're [insert crude and worthless insult here])
Just some basic examples.
I do have some belief that humanity will die out someday. It could be due to pollution, but thats only one of many causes for our extinction (major planetary events: 1.5-3.5 billion years ahead, or other major events, war, famine, disease, etc). The Earth is much more resilient however. Its been around for 4.5-4.6 billion years, and through many chaotic events, significant environmental changes, asteroidal impacts, and more. Of course no one is allowed to mention any of this... but hey, what do I care.
@novataylor (6570)
• United States
12 Feb 08
I read the blogspot thing and I don't know how to respond to this in a manner that I think would be intelligent enough, but I'm going to say that it was horrifically hot last summer, and I mean hot! Well over l00 Degrees for so many days. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about when I say that because I was in the thick of it here. And at one point, our power went off and we were stuck in the most miserable heat, no power, so no fans, no ac, no breeze, no ice, and no way possible to sleep! I read how it was colder in November and December than in other years, but I don't see how that has anything to do with how hot it was this past summer or how that makes this year so much cooler when you put it all together. Fine, this winter was cooler, but so what? And so what do I know anyway, but you know that I don't get that kind of stuff. You can explain it to me. And regarding life on Earth being ok? Sure it is. It'll change as it needs and is required to change to survive, just like the rest of us.
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@AD11RGUY (1265)
• United States
13 Feb 08
If you look at figure 2, you will see the peak temperatures for the years from 2005 to 2007, displayed in monthly recordings. You will also see a line drawn through the graph at a slant. This line represents the "average" temperature of all the months presented on the graph. As you can see, the line slants downward, representing a decrease in the "average" of these temperatures, which means...global cooling.
Continuing to figure 3, you see in plain representation, the anomalies (changes) in temperature from 1998 to present. We have had much cooler weather, especially since 1998.
So, yes, you had one he11 of a summer. But the globe was cooling off on average. Just for fun, check out what has happened elsewhere recently:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/01/06/br_r_r_where_did_global_warming_go/
Aren't you glad you don't live in these places?
@novataylor (6570)
• United States
13 Feb 08
I am glad I don't live in those place, I did see the graph, and the numbers it showed and I could read it just fine, but I still can't balance what I've seen there with what I've experienced here, GUY. It doesn't jive. I will go to that link that you've given me and I will try to wrap my head around what I find there, but this kind of stuff makes my head spin. I deal so much better with issues involving human emotions and fallibilities and frailties and those peaks and valleys and highs and lows and human heat and coldness, as opposed to these graphs and numbers and statistics and averages. But I'm going to that link now to see what I can see. Because I'd like to understand this. I probably won't, but I'd like to. So I'll let you know, ok? Boy, bet you can't wait to hear this one, huh? :)
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