What would you say to your son if this was his career choice??
By Debs_place
@Debs_place (10520)
United States
February 24, 2008 9:27pm CST
My son is 22 and in the Navy, he has been trained in police work. When he was in high school, his goal was to be an electrician. Before that his career goals included professional hockey play, lacrosse player and marine biologist.
A few weeks ago, he calls me and tells me he had an epiphany. He explains how all of his friends want to go into the FBI, state troopers, etc. and all they watch on TV are police shows.
He on the other hand loves to watch the food channel. As a child, I bought him an easy bake oven because he loved to bake. He even took a few courses at the Culinary institute of America. We also did a Wilton Cake decorating class together.
Well, this is would not be my first career choice for him, I am supporting him on his decision - since I think liking what you do is just as important as your salary. Well, he put off telling his father for several weeks. When he finally did tell him, his father's response was 'What have you been drinking?'
So, what would you tell your son if he wanted to go to school to be a chef?
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25 responses
@highflyingxangel (9225)
• United States
25 Feb 08
I do not see what is so wrong with a man wanting to be a chef? Is there really something wrong with a guy in the kitchen? I don't think so. If he's really happy with it, then I don't see what the big deal is. I'd want my kid to be happy, what's the use with them being unhappy and stuck in a job that they regret going to every day? There isn't any use for it. I'd rather them be happy. Money doesn't matter. Nor do gender stereotypes.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Feb 08
Thanks, that is the way I feel. His father had a fit when I got him the easy bake oven, but since at the point we were separated, he had no say. He felt that the oven was not a fit toy for a boy.
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@tyc415 (5706)
• United States
25 Feb 08
I would be very proud of my son if he went to chef school. My son loves to cook and he is very good at it. He can come up with his own recipes also that are fantastic. I bet if he does go to school to become a chef one day he might even have his own restaurant. I also love to watch the cooking channel and there are some really great chef's on there.
Be proud of your son and support him with his choice of career and I hope that his dad don't discourage him.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Feb 08
I think he has learned to ignore his father through the years, he is not exactly supportive of him.
One year, while in high school, he could not afford to take his girl friend out for their anniversary. He commandeered the Mom's kitchen and their deck to cook her a dinner, he made sauce from scratch, and chicken parm. He volunteered to cook for the family, but they had to eat in the kitchen. Her Mom said, no they would go out, so he could cook, she said when they came home it smelled so good she wished she had taken him up on the offer.
He has always loved to cook with me when he was little.
I am happy with his choice, there will always be a job for chefs. He wants to someday own a restaurant. I suggested to him, that he do it with a twist, make it great food that is healthy to eat.
I am supporting him 100%
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
26 Feb 08
Oh yes, she dumped him, she was from a family of means, we were not. He could not buy her and do with her the things she wanted.
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@tyc415 (5706)
• United States
25 Feb 08
My son got his start in school or at least that is when he found out his love for cooking. He took home making, they cooked and even sewed, he made a Dallas Cowboy football as his project and still has it. I think it is great for boys to take those courses just like I think it is good for the girls to take shop class in school. My son ended up in heating and air conditioning work but he still cooks a lot.
That was such a special gift that your son gave to his girlfriend. I hope that girl didn't let a good thing get away. haha
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 08
I would be very happy. My cousin is main chef in famous place and he has 5 restaurants making 40K a month.
Means that if someone is really good can always make money.
I wouldn't worry about this part.
I always wanted to be an artist, but my parents wanted me to be in medical school.
I am a doctor, but I am doing photography now for living.
You have to fulfill your desire sooner or later.
You have to love what you are doing...
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Feb 08
40K a month...that is a nice chunk of change. Wow, you are a doctor but doing photography for a living. I guess it just does to show that you have to be happy at what you do, it is more important then being paid a lot for what you do.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
25 Feb 08
yes, you have to be happy first....
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@tigerdragon (4297)
• Philippines
25 Feb 08
i would say let him go and let him be. He might well become the greatest chef in town or even all over the world! if one enjoys in what he does well then one will be successful. i have just stumbled on steve job's graduation speech for the graduating students of stanford last 2005 on youtube. very inspirational and an reminder for all of us who wants to fulfill our dreams whether it's foolish or not. going against the tide or just going with the flow. have your kid watch and listen to it.
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
25 Feb 08
I think it would be great! As long as he's happy doing it after all there are alot worse things he could be doing. There are some very successful chef's out there...you might check out the Food Network Channel some of them are on there. I personally like Chef Gordon Ramsey and Chef Emeril Lagasse. They are really great chefs. I hope he does really well at it.
**AT PEACE WITHIN**
~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Feb 08
I agree 100%, he is a fan of the food network and has called me to turn it on when he sees things that would interest me.
This past fall, we all went to Disney, my son who is in the Navy and my hubby and myself (our honeymoon) and we went to Raglan Road at Pleasure Island, and he has ideas of working there.
@cydzzj (354)
• Australia
27 Feb 08
I think I will encourge my son do everything he wants if the things he wants to do are not offenses. It's doesn't matter which career he choices. He can just do the things he interest in and can support his life. That's will be OK!
I don't think there are some different between white collar and blue collar. That's the same. And even he can earn more if he is a plumber or electrician.
So what I need to do is support his education, and then he can choice what he wants to do!
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Oh yes, I know a guy is an instructor in the electirician's union and he has an income that is approaching 6 figures.
@JoeMel (41)
• Australia
27 Feb 08
Yes, my friend was a primary school's teacher few years ago. But now he is a chef. He earns much more money than he was a teacher.
He told me when he was a teacher, he always worked overtime, and the salary was not good!
But now, he starts at 7:00 and finish at 2:00. And the money is really very good!
@GardenGerty (160978)
• United States
25 Feb 08
I would say that the best cooks in the world are men, and it is his turn to do the dishes. I would tell him that he could probably make a decent living if he really dedicates himself to learning the ropes and paying his dues. In short, I would support and encourage him as long as what he chooses is legal to do.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Feb 08
Exactly right, the kid who used to live next door to us (was my son's babysitter way back when) is a chef. He now owns his own restaurant and I think he does catering as well.
I agree, if it is legal and at least relatively safe...go for it.
@reinydawn (11643)
• United States
25 Feb 08
Well, my son is almost 22, in the Navy and training for something that was not his first choice of careers. In High School he wanted to play baseball - he was pretty good - but didn't like all the politics so he didn't last that long. He then went into the HVAC trade school because he thought people wouldn't understand if he took the cooking courses. He loves to bake and would make stuff for me all the time when he was a kid. He's now working on deisel engines and will most likely have a pretty good career waiting for him when he gets out. And he'll be able to cook "on the side" all he wants!
There are many famous chefs - Emeril comes to mind because my son loves him! My cousin is a pastry chef - he makes all the cakes for our family reunions! He's worked at Trump Plaza in New York and is now at the Trump in Bejing China - I think.
Tell your son to follow his heart! Anyone can have a job, but not everyone is happy about it.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Feb 08
My son is ok with the way his father acts, he is used to it now. Where is your son stationed?
My son had the same problem with the politics of lacrosse - the coach had 2 sons on the team.
I am supporting my son. Cooking is a field that will always be in demand...people just have to eat.
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@reinydawn (11643)
• United States
26 Feb 08
You've definitely got that right - we've all gotta eat!!! And eating what someone else cooked always seems to taste a bit better...
My son's in Sasebo Japan. He really likes it over there and is trying to get his next assignment there again.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
26 Feb 08
My son was trying to get assigned there. We laughed, he is so tall he sticks out in a crowd of Americans that he would look totally out of place in Japan.
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
26 Feb 08
If he's still in the Navy, I say go for it. I could be completely wrong about this, but I was told that the Navy sends there cooks to a cooking school. So there he goes, a free cooking school. All he has to do is study for that rate, pass the test and then cross over. In the Navy, there's more than just being able to cook to pass these tests. Those recipe cards are so hard to read, lol. It's hard to advance with this rate, with so many out there.
My husband was a cook in the Navy and now is a cook with the guard. I was in the Navy as well, and knew a guy that was in the deck department that crossed over to the Culinary Specialist rate (used to be called Mess Specialist). He did really well during that time. He wasn't fast compared to the guys that did it for a long time.
My husband was in the Navy for 8 years and when he got out to work in the restaurant business, he basically got a job as a kitchen manager. Which he hated, because of all the drama. Being a chef, you don't make a lot of money, compared to the managers. Creating his own restaurant is very costly without knowing the right people.
Let the Navy pay for his culinary school, which will look really good on his resume. It also looks good when he can say he can cook for 600+ people in one setting. Means he can still work under pressure, which happens at restaurants during busy hours. Then once this is all said and done, go and work at a restaurant to get that under his belt. Be really good at it, then go apply at a bigger restaurant.
My husband left the restaurant business to go to the guard full time. In my opinion, you have the people that leave the military and can adapt outside of it, and then you have the few that can't. My husband was one of those that couldn't. He got tired of people whining and crying over small stuff (the drama that I was talking about earlier).
One downside of being married to a cook, he makes it very hard for me to go on a diet, lol.
GO NAVY!!!
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
26 Feb 08
All honesty, do you want a Navy doctor operating on his knee. Marines huh, I bet his days are interesting, lol.
I have only seen a few pictures of inside the subs (boats), I have seen one in dry dock at night, very creepy looking, lol, and one leaving port. If your not used to walking around a ship you can still mess your head and knees up. I can't count the times I hit my knees on the hatches while going through the p-way before I got used to it. We had a guy that we called Zeus in our department, I seen him jump out of a 2nd story and land on his feet. He had to watch out when he walked around so he didn't hit his head on any pipes, lol.
My dad always told my husband, If your not happy in life with what your doing, it's time to step back and rethink what you want to do in life. Sounds like your son knows what he wants. Just think of all the free food he will be bringing home.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
26 Feb 08
My son is in Georgia now, he is attached to a marine division, he messed up his knee 2 years ago and they won't do surgery on it, so he will probably be getting out this spring. We have talk to our orthopedic surgeon (yes, we actually have one of those) who said that he will be glad to do the surgery and my son will be ready for school in September and Lacrosse season in the spring.
Sometimes I don't understand the military. My son was 6'1" when he went in the Navy, they wanted him as a cook on a sub, since then he has grown about 2 more inches. I would think that at his height, he would learn to walk with his head down or get brain damage in a sub.
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@cjsmom (1423)
• United States
25 Feb 08
Hubby and I love to cook and we're pretty good at it. Always wanted to have a catering business but never did. CJ watches us at times. He wants to be a chef like Emeril, a judge like Judge Judy, and a pharmacist...LOL
But of course, he's only 9...So if he ever really wanted to be a chef when he gets older we would be all for it.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Feb 08
My husband and I have discussed a sausage company. We make our own and it is fun (and healthier too). I am sure my son maybe influenced by TV too, but my guess is Rachael Ray more than Emeril.
I agree, my ex- did not cook at all. He hated it and if he did have to cook, made more mess then food.
@Grandmaof2 (7579)
• Canada
26 Feb 08
Some of the best cooks in the world are male chefs. I can see your husbands reaction in a sense but it tells me he hasn't been around many boys who grew up to be chefs, and neither have I although my uncle is a chef and has been all his life. He doesn't know how to do anything else. He is the only family member who has a ton of money and he had a big family so if I had a boy and he wanted to be a chef I'd suppirt that after what I see it did for my rich uncle.
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
26 Feb 08
Actually, my ex's father loved to cook and cooked all of the time. My ex was the one who was helpless (hopeless) in the kitchen.
He has a strange idea on what masculine is, definitely not the way he grew up
@quiltedblessings (1066)
• United States
25 Feb 08
I would tell him to go for it. My husband and I both came from families that did not support our career choices. We've felt what it was like and would never do that to our own children.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Feb 08
My father is still upset at me for not going to work in the post office. The job did not appeal to any of us. I am 54, and every time I visit him, he complains about it.
I think, unless our kids want to do something really stupid, we should support them.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
26 Feb 08
Yes, he paid into the GI Bill his first year, so he will be getting money to help with school and since he is 21, he will be able to qualify for financial aid. He is hoping to be able to be a residential advisor, due to his age and life experience so he is hoping to get his dorms for free
He is planing and thinking about it seriously, this makes me very happy.
@loudhummer14 (535)
• Philippines
25 Feb 08
I would tell him to do whatever he desires. Being a chef is actually a very respectable profession. My family runs a food business. Restaurants, caterings and all. And I have a lot of culinary expert relatives. Most of them are male. You are right by supporting your child. Just make sure that is what he really wants. It is normal for someone his age to change minds, and go out to try new things. As for now, let him be. He'll come around soon.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
25 Feb 08
Oh i know, he may change his mind again, which I why I suggested the community college that costs about $12K for tuition, room and board vs the culinary institute, which is about 40K a year.
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@ashjoe76 (1422)
• India
25 Feb 08
Better to leave the children to their choices. They will discover themselves by trail and error in most cases. Sometimes, they falter, but that's what our life is meant to be. We learn from our mistakes. I would like to see them have their own view and imagination.
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@naty1941 (2336)
• United States
25 Feb 08
It is wonderful that you son has a goal in mind. Chefs make a lot of money if they work for the right restaurant. $25.00 an hour or more. Also, you should be proud that he is that creative and talented. Don't worry about it and give him your support which he needs with the reply from his father.
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Oh, I know, I think he will do fine. I can even be an employee. You know, will work for food.
I do give him the support. I am thinking by now that he has given up on getting support or recognition from his father.
@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
26 Feb 08
If that's what he really wanted to do, and was good at it, I'd tell him to go for it, top chefs don't make bad money. Not everyone is cut out to be a state trooper or cop, and most state trooper academies will tell you, 1/3 to 1/2 won't be there when the class gradutates. And even if they do make it through the academy, it doesn't mean they will make it through probationary period, some just aren't cut out for that line of work, even though it may sound good and looks even better when Hollywood gets their hands on it. So I would encourage my son to do what he wants to do, not what I or anyone else thinks should be his choice.
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@vicki2876 (5636)
• Canada
25 Feb 08
I think that would be awesome. Finally he can do some of the meals around here. LOL Better to do what makes you happy and a bit of money than unhappy and a lot of money. Also I could rest a bit easier at night then in police work. I would always be fretting
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@di1159 (1580)
• United States
25 Feb 08
I think its a wonderful career choice! My son in high school just signed up for cooking courses and applauded him. I think it also helps them learn to do things for themselves in the kitchen (which can be quite intimidating). Have his father tune into the food network and see what a real chef is capable of! Good luck to the both of you!
@gigisimbre (272)
•
26 Feb 08
Go! the most important is question what he loves to do best and what is it that he wanted... Its hard to study the things that you dont love, nor working on a work your not interested in
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
26 Feb 08
Exactly, my son is a big boy with a big appetite. He is 6'3" and about 230 pounds. He does love to eat.
He will enjoy doing homework and practicing...will love when he comes home to cook for me.