What should be taught in schools these days?

@coffeebreak (17798)
United States
February 26, 2008 9:01am CST
My kids are out of school but in working with them, I didn't see that the schools particularily prepared them much. I mean, they were taught all about Romeo and Juliet, but not a thing about how to balance a check book. They were taught all about every county in the world, but only half a semester of US history. They were taught about eveloution but not about interest rate and what that means. They were taught all about certain poets or famous people from the past, but not a word about people that make decisions today - for instance what is the electorial college and all the delegates and those that run the states and country, etc So, what subjects do you think should be taught in school these days? I think the main one in high school at least senior year, should be balancing a check book, dealing with the accounting of an ATM card (same as checkbook just less paper!) and things like a mortage and how it works and interest rates on credit cards and payments on new cars and things like that. Kids these days don't havea clue to so much of this. And it is so important to their lives. But hey, they can reciet Romeo and Juliett! What do you think should be taught?
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@Myrrdin (3599)
• Canada
26 Feb 08
I think a big part of the problem is too many parents are relying on the education system to teach kids everything. The education system is supposed to do part of the job but so are the parents. As for not learning how to balance a check book and such, well such things were taught in accounting at the highschool I attended. And local history could be taken, or international history. It all depended on which courses you took. Same with politics, there was a class that you could take (and I did) which taught about the parliamentary system and part of the class was studying the platform of the various political parties.
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@Gesusdid (1676)
• United States
26 Feb 08
they should all have a class for every class Freshmen , Sophmore , Junior, and Seniors called "The World is all about Money 101 -104 " so that every year you can take that class like 101 , 102 , 103 , 104 .. and another class on how "Graduatiing High School isnt a High Light " , and Buying a House ..they also should have a program for freshmen and all the students to help them get a job once their the legal age...when graduated High School in 05 i felt as if i was lied to .and i could have been taught more ...not to say i learned but i felt cheated for 4 years
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@Myrrdin (3599)
• Canada
27 Feb 08
Its your parents who should teach you about the real world, not school. School is to provide you with the information and to learn how to process information. Your parents are the ones responsible for teaching you about life and how to live it. I think too many people blame the education system for kids not being prepared for the real world, when in reality its the parents failings.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Yeah, that'd be great. Seems "education" in high school is more "just collecting information" than it is educating the kids in something, for something and to start a new life!
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@Gesusdid (1676)
• United States
27 Feb 08
tell me about , most of these teachers just teach whats on todays agenda and teach until the clock is up , only a select few teach kids about the real world , but teachers like that i what we need in the schools today, not to say they need to become so opened to the kids but at least tell them the truth stop sugar coating it for what it really is
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
26 Feb 08
Whatever we think should be taught another interest group is going to disagree and what wins out is a) transient, and b) politically correct, but not c) any excuse for parents to drop the ball, so to speak, in their role as their children's primary educators. Do I like this? Heck, no. Do I expect you to like it? I certainly hope not, but facts are facts and anything else is a dream. Cripers, no, I don't think high school seniors should be wasting school time balancing checkbooks, as I think they should have learned that in 4th grade and if they should have learned it on their own at least by 5th. This is the problem with a homogenized curriculum.
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
26 Feb 08
Well, there you have hit the nail on the head, as this has been going on for generations. Sixth grade is fine, and the best way to do it would be if each child could have a real checking account. So if I were the parent and the banks didn't allow children that small to have their own checking accounts, instead of giving an allowance in cash, I'd rig up an entity called The Bank of Mom or such-like and issue checks that could be exchanged for the cash on an as needed basis and the amount of the allowance would fluctuate according to how well the youngster's account was kept balanced. Of course as this is me talking, I would have started that out as early as the child's school introduced the math skills needed to do the transactions in real time. As the child showed more and more responsibility early on, s/he would become responsible for more and more of the family budget and start getting enough "allowance" to handle greater portions of the family budget. That would prevent the child growing up into the kind of teenager who overspends on cell phone bills or whines if not given $300 designer jeans, and ultimately would, at least in theory, produce an adult capable of buying homes and cars without getting foreclosed upon and holding credit cards without accumulating debt.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Bank of Mom - that is a fantastic idea! I am going to work on that one for my grand daughters!
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
26 Feb 08
I agree with you! I would have said about 6th grade, but figured many would blast me for that! And yeah, everyone has their own opinions. Just makes ie even more demanding that parents need to teach their children...even if they weren't taught it when they were children!
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
27 Feb 08
you are so right. That is how it has always been really. What we really, really need to know to survive in the world is not what is being taught in the schools. Most of what is learned will never ever be used later in real life. Even the basic skill of driving is not taught well. We now pay close to 500.00 for a class to teach our kids driving skills and yet we are required to risk our own vehicles, lives and pay for gas to give them so much driving time. At the end of this course,our kids still don't know how to check the oil or fluids, change a tire or drive a standard. They pretty much knew all that I myself taught them...which was all of it.
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
27 Feb 08
sounds as if you have a great driving program in your area. Here it used to be like that but now it just costs a lot of $ and they really don't teach the kids much. Most of it is left to the parents to teach.
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
24 May 08
Guess I should have mentioned hte YEAR I took it in high school - 1973! We paid something like $300 for my daughter to take it about 15 years ago, and the school had absolutely nothing to do with it, Drivers Ed was not offered at the high school for her then, but as it happened, I homeschooled my son for 1 year and drivers ed was offered to him then! And he got proper school credits and all. Just don't see why they can't offer that in schools. Maybe not the actual driving part, but the book learning part, just don't see why not.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Funny you should mentio that...drivers ed class. I took it in school in my sophmore year. Of all the classes (besides typing), that I took in high school, that is the only one that I remember "learning" anything. It was through school (no charge!) class during the day for a semester and driving after school classes and in addition to them teaching us alot I learned to do all the check point things, and to change a tire! Still do all that today - 35+ years later!
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@angemac23 (2003)
• Canada
26 Feb 08
Most of the things I learned in school were a total waste of time! I too learned about Romeo and Juliet and Egyptian history and a lot more things that I have never used or needed. These things may have been interesting to learn but I came out of school not knowing anything about credit, insurnace, how to file my taxes, how to buy a home and the important everyday life things that everyone needs to know at some point in their life. I struggled when I went out on my own for the first time becasue I didnt have a clue....12 years sitting in a classroom and I didnt know a thing!
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
27 Feb 08
I think alot of kids out of school are seeing the same thing these days. I wish you good luck in life and your new education!.
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@jhl930 (3601)
• United States
26 Feb 08
I think that alot of subjects that are taught now probably shouldn't be taught because to be honest we don't use half of it in the "real world" so I don't think they should teach it...I think that one class that should be taught is a class on the "real world"and how to budget money..because again theres not alot of people that can do that well...
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
27 Feb 08
That how I feel.. And you know what? These days with the internet and all it has avaiable, you don't have to rely on goig to the library anymore and kids, if they want to learn about things like Romeo and Juliett or things that although being our history, dont really make a difference now, or if they are just not interested in those subjects...those that are can reserach them as they want to. But to force all to learn it in school when other things could be taught to be used... just seems alot of wasted time.
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@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
27 Feb 08
I think learning art in school is very important. A person is much more well rounded if they learn about poetry, music, design, or any other art. The way I see it, learning about a mortgage is something you learn from experience. Your parents should teach you that. Balancing a checkbook is just simple math (adding and subtracting) and wouldn't need more than a mere mention in school. We were taught how to deal with money from a young age by our parents. But on the other hand, your parents won't be able to teach you a lot about art, psychology, or other things like that unless it is their special interest. I want my kids to learn a language, learn all kinds of art skills, and turn into very creative people. I can teach them how to add and subtract their checkbook (that should only take 10 minutes). Finally, as for interest rates on credit cards, there is only one thing you need to teach your kids - DON'T CARRY A BALANCE. Simple as that. I still don't understand what interest rate my credit cards charge, but it doesn't matter b/c I've never once in my life carried a balance b/c my parents taught me not to. You send your kids to school to teach them about the world and about the things you cannot teach them. Then you can spend time at home with them teaching them the life lessons. However, in the end, they won't learn a thing about balancing a checkbook until they have one and won't learn a thing about a mortgage until they have one. A school can only teach theory, but it's not until they experience it first hand that they will learn.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Great topic and so true! I learned so much garbage in school that I haven't used once since; Ancient History - what did I need that for? Even biology isn't really necessary except for those who intend to go into a scientific or medical field after they graduate. Obviously we should all come out of school with a good knowledge of math, and knowing how to read and write. Proper grammar is essential to a good future and I think we should learn more about our own nation's history and geography than we do as well as more about our government and how it works. Romeo and Juliet? Maybe stuff like that could be an elective but there should be things they don't currently learn in school that should definitely be put ahead of Shakespeare, no disrespect intended. I'd like to see classes in "Real Life" where the kids get the opportunity to act out real life situations throughout their last two or three years of high school. They should do all the things people do when they go out into the world on their own - set up a household budget, balance a checkbook, make decisions such as whether to make a major purchase, write their resume and go on a pretend job interview. Make it sort of like the game of "Life"; sometimes a crisis will come up, someone will get sick and have to miss work or they'll even get laid off. The refrigerator will break, the car will blow up, someone will have to deal with an a$$hole for a boss. Things that happen in the real world to adults! Let them learn at least the basics about the stock market and how it may affect their retirement income in the future. Also, throw in some situations where a baby comes along and let them learn that it's not like having a toy doll but a real person that they're responsible for forever. One more thing, I'd like to put my two cents in about teaching foreign languages to the lower grades; this is something they may or may not use at some time in their future but chances are more and more as time goes one that they will. Having them learn at least the basics at an early age is the best way to do it because that's when they learn it so much easier and are more likely to retain what they've learned. Annie
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Yeah, like so what if the kids see the insides of a frog - that teaches them what? How about learning about their own insides and first aid or something! I'm not saying schools should teach kids everything, parents have a huge hand in that, but at the same time, if you are going to teach them someting, teach them something they can use. It can all be related together in some way - A semester every year about some financial or business kind of thing should be a requirement.
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• United States
26 Feb 08
I so agree with you on this topic, now Im not a big fan of history and growing up in europe for most of my life (maybe Im ignorant) I have a hard time understanding or figuring out what use the education of history has for the kids ? I also believe that the most basic topics of everyday living is way more important to the students today. They are so focused on materialistic stuff that I feel they definately need some understanding on how money works. Ofcouse the parents also play a huge role in this too. Thanks
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
26 Feb 08
It is a bit cumbersome.... why teach how the egyptians did what they did..what difference does it make now? Things like that, but at the same time, maybe they did something then that kids could relate to now and use. But then again, why take it out of our own country? I watched a news thing while back and the question being asked of kids on the street was if you could vote, who would you vote for for president and why? Kids hadn't a clue hardly as to who was even running, but not a single one could answer the why part. But another story asked about what countries need our help and those kids spouted off countries I hadn't heard of! A question was asked "who was Katrina?" and not a single kid on that news cast that hey asked had the right answer. Andl ike you said, so focused on materialistic stuff, nothing left for anything else. And yes, of course parents should be teaching this stuff. I opened a savings account for mine and showed them how to work it and make it work. They did very well. Later I opened a checking account (they ahad to get the money to deposit!) but showed them how to balance it and everything. Thing is, you don't really have to do a bank balance, just don't spend more than you deposit! LIke that joke goes: "I can't be overdrawn....I still have checks left!" Well, now it's "...but I swiped my card!"
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@supeemom (121)
• United States
26 Feb 08
I completely agree. Not to downplay the classics, but I haven't been able to apply anything I learned from Romeo & Juliet in my daily life. However, understanding personal finance when I turned 18 and was bombarded by credit card companies at college would have really changed my life. Real life skill like personal finance should be included in high school curriculum. However, on another note, we plan to teach our daughter the things we didn't know at that age so that she doesn't make the same mistakes we did. So I also believe that much of these real life skills should be taught at home, or at least started at home.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
27 Feb 08
It is good to hear so many of us have learned it the hard way but are making sure our kids dont' have to. My duagher was just in a hit and run and it totaled her car - we are trying to help but she just told me - "I'll be 30 this year - I can do this!" (long story as to the whys and all) but I am glad I taught her (yes, I'll take alot of the credit!) and she is confident she "can do this".
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@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
26 Feb 08
the best way to teach the children nowadays is how to manage money, characteristics of a good entrepreneur, ways on how to become a successful businessman...more rich more every year because they engage in business...do you agree?
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@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
26 Feb 08
Yes, although they need to know about normal "manage money" ways too - like how to manage their pay check and make smart decisions on how to spend their money - no matter how much they have.
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@yannycui (376)
• China
27 Feb 08
Ha,Ha. Totally agree with you. But the kids should learn how to read and write the number first. I hope you can be the princeple of the school.
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• United States
24 May 08
This is one of the reasons I homeschool. My kids are taught academics and life skills. They know more life skills than most adults do and they are 17, 14, and 11. You can not leave your childs education up to the school. If you want them to know something it is best you teach them. Oh, and by the way my two oldest have been to public school. My 17 year old went through 4th grade and my 14 year old went through 1st grade. My middle child is dyslexic among other things and the school had NO clue how to teach her. I saw one of her old teachers last week and she said I was doing the best thing for my kids by homeschooling them.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
24 May 08
I haven't a thing against home school. I'd do it for mine if I could have. Did one year for my son, but he got so lonely and his friends didn't stick with him and then he wanted Senior year at school for all the activities anyway. He was still enrolled in that school, could still do all activities, but just not being with the other kids, he felt so left out. He pulled his grade up from C"s to A"s tho thanks to that one year of schooling. He learned is wasn't him that was so stupid but the way he was taught! He figured out how to teach himself that last year! He's a deputy sheriff now!