How do you feel when a stranger calls you Brother/Sister?
By kamran12
@kamran12 (5526)
Pakistan
February 26, 2008 2:11pm CST
Has it ever occurred to you that someone, who is not your sibling, called you brother/sister? How did you react? Also, have YOU ever called someone with this title in a similar set of conditions?
I am asking this because in my own philosophy of life, all humans are related somehow, actually everything is related. So, naturally, I kind of have had this habit to call others as though they are my siblings. But, I have experience with some who felt offended, I don’t know why though!
I would much like to hear your thoughts on the matter! Thanks!:-)
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19 responses
@bagumbayan (2705)
• Philippines
27 Feb 08
I like being called sister by those who dont even know we. In the park, in the subway train, in the market, department store, when they would like to ask something or to make some plea. But if the one who is calling me is younger than I am, for me it is being impolite, quite rude, unless he is calling every one in thier place sister or brother. I noticed here in our place most are calling each one bro or sis. Its nice to hear that brother/sister.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
Hello bagumbayan,
It's nice to know that at your place people can call each other as brother/sister with liberty. I understand that there are cultural differences that can only be understood being in that culture. Thank you for sharing your views!:-)
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@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
26 Feb 08
You should live in Trinidad, which is in the Caribbean, where people are mostly black and call each other ' brother ' as a form of address. I'm not black but people call me that continually when they want to be friendly. Its nice. Knowing that someone is offering friendship this way. Its also a comfort, knowing that complete strangers are prepared to include you in their family of relationships, which is what this is.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
26 Feb 08
Hello Bluepatch,
Welcome to mylot, I hope that your stay here will be enjoyable!:-)
It's really good to be at a place where people are open and friendly. In my own culture, it's also very easy to call someone brother or sister. It's rather a rule more so than an exception. And yes, it's a comfort, at least for me personally. I feel happy for you that you are in friendly people who are open too!:-)
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@Angelwhispers (8978)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Kamran, I can not imagine anyone being offended by being addressed as Brother or Sister. I know that there are people who do however. I do address people like this but its only after I have developed that kind of relationship with them. I have friends both online and off line that I regard as brothers and sisters.
Having been raised in the south, I am inclined to use such terms of endearments such as Sugar, Hon, Darling, and I have had certain folks take offense to that. My experience has been that when people are taken aback by it, they are not happy people to begin with. Or they are from NEW YORK.
I think it speaks volumes about a persons spirit when you address another human with regard in such a manner as hello My Brother. I know I am drawn in at that moment. I also believe that is conveys caring, empathy, and that there are people left in the world that still believe in the kinship of human existence.
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@novataylor (6570)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Ah, Angel, my sister in smut, my sister of the South, my sweet darlin! I too find sometimes that people take offense to my endearments, but it somehow does not seem to stop those endearments from escaping my lips. I do, however, try not to use them with those who do not enjoy them. Such as those from NEW YORK. lol One of my good friends is from New York, of all places, and he happens to love my endearments. He love a few other things about and on me too, but we won't go into that. ;-) I am also drawn by loving terms such as sister, friend, darling, love, and you can pretty much name it.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
Hello there Angel!:-)
Some respondents have shared some of the possible reasons as to why some people may take offence. I understand that to some extent especially when cultures can interpret things differently. You are quite prudent to use such titles with people of close interaction/relation where one can feel easy!
I would admit that when I first saw words like Sugar, Hon etc, I thought it was rather in terms of intimacy but then I saw them being used frequently, I figured that they are just other forms of endearments. I too believe that it rather conveys respect, caring, and empathy and a desire to be close. And, I do believe in the kinship of human existence, Angel!
I find your response very warm and heartening, thanks for sharing!:-)
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@novataylor (6570)
• United States
26 Feb 08
I also believe that we're all brothers and sisters under the skin. That god is in all of us. But, to your question, I'd say that I've rarely called a man brother. I don't know why, it just doesn't come up somehow. It never occurs to me to do it. I do, however, call other women sister, and often. Sometimes it's in a sly, funny way, when we connect and agree on a certain point, and that's always fun. I also call other women sister, but it means much more. I have some remarkable women friends, and I feel so close to them, it's like they are my sisters, part of me somehow. My best friend, here at home, is like that. Sometimes, I'm not sure where she ends and I begin. We can be in tune with each other to the degree that we're thinking the same sentences and finishing each other's. It's a beautiful thing to have.
I've never seen anyone offended by my calling them sister, or on the rare occasions, brother. It seems like an odd thing to be offended by. It's such a welcoming, open-hearted word, where would the offense be? But now, I'm asking questions, and this is your discussion, Kamran. :)
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
Hello novataylor!:-)
You have a loving nature, so I did expect your first line. I understand that this habit or so to speak is usually culturally driven. The first poster shared that it is common in Trinidad too and interestingly, many of the people there are from my part of the world. It’s so good that you can call other women as sisters and really feel like one. That’s actually the beauty of this title. Thank you for sharing your experience with your friend!:-)
You are right that it’s welcoming and open-hearted word and there is particularly nothing that can offend but I also understand if someone feels like this because of some background that I don’t know. I only experienced this online that someone was offended by my calling her sister. She didn’t tell the reason though.
You are welcome to ask questions, nova! Don’t hesitate!:-)
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@novataylor (6570)
• United States
27 Feb 08
My Ada, if the woman you so innocently offended had known you in the slightest, she would have known that you would never intentionally offend her or anyone else. Sometimes, I think we are too quick to express our anger, or offense taken, and don't think about what we're saying until it's already out of our mouths. This might be the case, here.
Kamran, I feel that I could ask you any question that I had, without fear of being judged for it, or berated for asking. You have always come to me open-hearted and warm and very respectfully. And sometimes, you come to me with humor and smiles in every word, so I have no fear of asking a question. But your saying that makes me wonder. Did you read a question in there somewhere? Was there something I said that might have made you think that I had a question? You've made me curious. You have a way of reading more than what is written, so I'm wondering what you saw behind the words, what the question was that you saw there.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
Thak you for your kind words, again, novataylor! You are such a delight :-)
As to question part, there wasn't particularly a question, I said that based on following, I quote:
"It's such a welcoming, open-hearted word, where would the offense be? But now, I'm asking questions, and this is your discussion, Kamran.:)"
So, I was just saying that it doesn't matter if this is my discussion, you are welcome to ask questions of your own!:-)
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@SassyKittyKat (2135)
• Australia
27 Feb 08
I agree with you and while I wouldn't call everyone brother and sister, just because some people don't understand and it's not the culture here to do so, I do call people who worship with me, my brother or sister.
I am a Jehovah's Witness and we call each other brother or sister so and so because we are spiritual brothers and sisters. I agree with you that in the long run and when you look down the line of history, we all are really distantly related. However, some people don't view it that way and it's just not the way it's done here in America for the most part. So, if I were you, I would be selective in who I gave that title to. Only because it has various meanings to diffrent people...
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
Hello SassyKittyKat,
Reading all responses here, I guess, people in religious circles have little to no problem, rather it is appreciated there, to call each other brothers and sisters. It is not surprising though, since religions are based on joining people together!
You seem to have a very balanced and educated view about the issue, understanding reasons and possible cultural differences about which you are very right. Thank you for shearing all that, I really appreciate!:-)
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@SassyKittyKat (2135)
• Australia
27 Feb 08
You're welcome brother ;-P Seriously, I really enjoyed this question because it's not one that you hear very often...
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@UBiquitous (195)
• Pakistan
26 Feb 08
Asslam o Alaikum brother!!(kind of a answer to ur post :D )
well,as far as i think i dunt feel shame to call sumone ma brother to to be called his/her sister..even though i feel good abt dat...when sumone calls me his sister i feel like dat person has got sum sort of repect n affection in a positive way for me ..n in a way i feel so secure dat now dat person wunt harm me in anyway.
em frum pakistan and usuallay wht happens here in our country ..in universities dis is da best way to start any conversation with anyone..even when u dunt know da name of da guy or gal ..u can just call dem by ADA(brother) and ADEE(sister)...dis is how we manage to communicate with each other...dis overcomes many problems..
1-In ma religion islam it is prohibited to take names of galz or to call guys by dere names(wunt go in detail otherwise it will be den a religios controversy and @ dis initial stage dunt wana face dis even)
2- u get a chance to speak to someone.
3- u get repect from dat stranger
4- u feel a bit more secure from his/her side..n lots more.
so i dunt feel any harm callin sumone ma brother even and ifsumone dunt likes it ..den i dunt give by callin his/her name...callin sumone is totally ma right ..wether sumone likes it or not...cuz i dunt like callin other people to whom i dunt have any akin relationship by dre names ..
DATS IT !
Allah hafiz!!
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
Waalaikum-Assalaam Sister, UBiquitous! :-)
Welcome to mylot, I hope you will have a chance to enjoy your stay here by learning from others and offering others what you have to offer! :-)
From your use of words (Ada and Adee), I would assume that you are from Sindh? I find Sindhi people very sweet, loving and humble in their manners. I am from Punjab but have close relatives and friends in Sindh too (mainly Karachi and Haiderabad). One of my close friends here is from Sindh (Badeen), he did his masters from same city, but now, for doctorate, he is in another city. I visited him last week as he is suffering from severe backache and might have to go through a tricky surgery. Prayers from a sister would be welcome! :-)
As to your take on the subject, I appreciate your input and what you have to share. I would say though that taking names is not prohibited in Islam as what I have learnt is that companions of Prophet called each other with their names as well as such titles.
You are very right that such titles create an atmosphere of respect and trust with others, at least in that part of the world (Pakistan and India) and provide a more convivial environment for communications.
Thank you for sharing here and I would love to hear from you in future too!:-)
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@UBiquitous (195)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
dayem ! i wrote a huge reply for u bro...but ma serv went off..n now em unable to paste dat msg again from notepad..duno y i cant paste in mylot..dey sayin urrating must be more than 5000 or logout i tried dis too but it aint wurking ..!
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
9 Mar 08
I have no brothers or sisters, I am the only child and I welcome people calling me a brother, in actual fact throughout my life I have sought out brotherly figures in friends, close friends I call brothers because that's what they are to me, maybe not in blood but certainly near as damn it. All my lovely lady friends on Mylot I refer to as sisters and they love it too, I always refer to them as my sis x And I always get called bruv which is very endearing and makes me feel special.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
10 Mar 08
My father was a single child too, wolfie34, (well, actually not single, he has a sister but we don't know where she is or even if she is alive, that's a long story though, about politics, geographic partition and migration!) So, I do understand your desire to look for brotherly figures in friends and/or relatives! And yes, friends can be brother or sometimes even closer than real brothers!:-)
I find it heartening that you have this habit of calling others, brothers and sisters and like to be called a brother. So, I would, if I may, be glad to call you brother! Thanks for sharing!:-)
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
1 Mar 08
You made me think Kamran. I grew up in very conservative place. If I would say brother or sister to stranger, they would send me to mental hospital for treatment.
I am far away from my childhood and conservative ideas in life.
However, I don't want to be call sister by total strangers or even my close friends.
Yes, we are all children of the same god, but I would like to be sister only for my brother.
My sister is not alive and I wish she is here to call me sister.
It is all related to culture.
One day, Jehovah's Witnesses knocked my door. When I opened my door, toll, scary looking guy said, "hello sister".....
I was offended. No questions about.
I think I feel better to be call friend, good friend, best friend, but not sister....
So to answer your question my friend, I am not much comfortable to be sister to total stranger, but it depends on situation. In most cases I would feel like those people need something from me and feel like someone is passing my private zone.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
1 Mar 08
Hello polachicago,
It is really interesting to see how our perceptions are affected by cultures and our experience and the the way we grow. I understand that these differences exist and I respect them. I wouldn't call someone as sister or brother if I know that they will feel offended in any way. Your point about private zone is pertinent and understandable!
Thanks for sharing your views honestly!:-)
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
27 Feb 08
I can see why some could be offended. They think you calling them sister or brother you are being too familiar and therefore being rude or too forward.I don't get called sister but on occasion, I get sweetie or hun or honey.I don't mind it. It is another way of being friendly to me.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
28 Feb 08
Maybe it is a southern thing. In the southern states people use terms of endearments like honey or sweetie more than in the north.
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
Hello sarahruthbeth22!:-)
Thank you for giving me a glimpse of why calling someone sister or brother may offend them, It is somewhat understandable. You have a reasonable way to look at it as another way of being friendly! Thank you for your pertinent comment!:-)
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@cdparazo (5765)
• Philippines
27 Feb 08
I would feel honored and flattered. It's not everyday that someone would call me sister and when somebody calls me sister, I would think that he/she regards me very highly or as a friend. Here in my country calling somebody 'sis' is sort of an endearment to someone we consider a worthy friend. It would be a great compliment indeed to be called sister by somebody who isn't my blood relative.
@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
Hello cdparazo!:-)
Your comments are very heartening indeed. I can certainly relate and testify to everything attributed to and associated with this title. In my homeland culture too, though some people don’t take it very serious but for many, calling someone his/her sister means giving special respect and honor to someone. It also entails some moral obligations towards that person. I really appreciated when you accepted me calling you my sister, many months ago…thanks ! :-)
Thank you for sharing your views here, cdparazo! :-)
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@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
27 Feb 08
nope and i know its french (i live in canada - the land of bilinguals! an NO i am not french, not one bit!) i do know a bit of french though.
as for my name (its really cheryl, shhhhh dont tell anyone!) and it is no mistake that my name on my etsy website is MonCher! - i just used a play on words!!! :-)
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
Hello cher913!
Are you French? excuse me if you are not! actually your screen name is what's used for masculine "dear" in French. [like in 'dear friend' (cher ami) ]
Anyway, you are very right that there is cultural dimension to it, and so you are also about rudeness in calling women 'mom', which also has some cultural dimension to it! Thank you for sharing your views with us!:-)
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@anonymili (3138)
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27 Feb 08
I'm not at all bothered if someone calls me sister. I don't see any reason to be offended it by it. I go to India once a year or so and whilst out shopping am often called sister (or "didi" as they say there which means elder sister) which I understand is a mark of respect. When we went on tour for a few days, our driver was calling my cousin and me Madam for the first 5 minutes of the journey and I didn't like it at all, then he accidentally called us didi and then apologised and I said I would much prefer that he said that than Madam! He was very pleased and from then on he talked non stop about all of the places we were driving through as he said he could relax and treat us like family now which was very sweet.
In general calling someone brother or someone is not very common in the UK, although my husband and I have some Nepali friends and whenever we socialise with them they call us Bhaiya and Behen and we call them that too. It really is quite nice, although people don't even know each other's names generally LOL!
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@anonymili (3138)
•
17 Mar 08
Thank you for the BR on this one Kamran. I am glad you see where I am coming from. I do believe that generally it's a cultural thing. My brother's fiance is an English girl and when our younger cousins called her "didi" she was a bit taken aback but now she's used to it and she said it made her feel part of the family and she welcomes it when other younger family friends call her that now. My own brother is 5 years younger than me and he never calls me didi so it's amusing that others are calling his wife to be by that endearing title!
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
Hello anonymili,
It's so good to have someone who understands and actually know the true feeling of such form of endearment. Some people have shared possible reasons as to why someone would feel offended and I can understand things can be taken differently in different cultures. Your experience with driver is interesting and heartening as well, thank you for sharing!:-)
Isn't it wonderful that some titles can make you closer to someone even if you don't know their personal names! Thanks again for sharing with us!:-)
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@pankajlot (252)
• India
1 Mar 08
Thank you very much for starting this topic brother!
i always do this here in india when i have to talk to
someone who is stranger to me,and i dont think
there is something that i am doing wrong to call someone
brother! we all are human beings so we are somehow or
the other related to each other so its fare to call
someone brother or sister!
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
1 Mar 08
Hello pankajlot,
First of all, I would like to welcome you to mylot. I hope you will enjoy your time here!:-)
I don't think it wrong to call someone brother or sister, if they don't mind, either. For me, it's a symbol of respect and human love. You are right that we are related somehow as we are humans. I know this is widely practiced in your (and my) part of the world and I fnd it beautiful!
Thanks for sharing!:-)
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
27 Feb 08
LOL when a stranger does it...it does NOT go over well..particularly when its a racial motivated..That drives me absolutely insane and is something I really can't stand...BUT when a close friend does it, calls me their sister, I am beyond flattered and love it..I have close friends that I refer to as my sisters or brothers adn their kids are my nieces and nephews etc etc..but thats something totally different..
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@kamran12 (5526)
• Pakistan
27 Feb 08
Hello Ravenladyj,
First part of your response is really interesting for me. Can you please elaborate for me a bit more how it can be racially motivated, if you don’t mind sharing? I am asking because I really want to know. There was one lady online who felt offended by my calling her sister (a long time ago) but she didn’t tell the reason so you can see how genuinely interested I am to learn about it. Thank you very much for responding, really! :-)
I really loved what you said in last part of your response and can actually relate to that! :-)
Thank you once again for participating in this thread, Ravenladyj, I really appreciate!:-)
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@wisedragon (2325)
• Philippines
27 Feb 08
I don't make a big deal out of it. I guess it's just a more friendly or polite way to approach someone rather than saying "hey!" or "yo!".
I actually find it flattering that someone would want to be called my brother or sister! LOL
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@lordwarwizard (35747)
• Singapore
27 Feb 08
I must admit it is a bit strange if one belongs to the more "conservative" type.
But I guess it is no biggie. It is just another form of endearment like dude, mate, pal, etc.
That person wants to be your friend... so why get mad? :P
@foxygirle (376)
• Philippines
27 Feb 08
i feel odd people would address me as sister when we haven't met or been introduced. I dont know, I'm not comfortable with it. Maybe just a matter of culture and how I was raised.
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