When do you take a dog back to the vet?
By owatagoosiam
@owatagoosiam (751)
United States
March 1, 2008 10:24am CST
My wife commented that our dog tends to shake her head and scratch at her ear a lot. She's said this in the past and I've had our pet looked at by the vet. That was a few months ago now. They didn't find anything wrong.
My wife is commenting more on this again, recently, as the dog continues to do the same think. Shake her head and scratch her ear. How do you determine when to take your dog back to the vet? If you took her once and they found nothing, do you go again and take her back for essentially the same 'symptoms' some months later and hope the answer is different?
Or is this just wasting money?
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13 responses
@lilybug (21107)
• United States
1 Mar 08
Have you cleaned the dogs ears recently? Dogs can get a buildup in their ears just like we humans do. I would suggest trying that first before taking the dog to the vet. Especially if the dog is displaying the same symptoms as before. I would not suggest a Q-tip because I am sure the dog would not sit still for it. Try using a baby wipe or a damp washcloth.
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@ersmommy1 (12588)
• United States
1 Mar 08
I did that before. It doesn't seem to work.
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@owatagoosiam (751)
• United States
6 Mar 08
I will have to take a closer look at her ears. I had just supposed that the Vet would see and tell me if there was a problem with ear wax. I don't think it would hurt to try cleaning out her ears myself to see if that helps.
@ersmommy1 (12588)
• United States
1 Mar 08
Vets are human too. Which means they can miss things. Is it obvious to you that the dog is uncomfortable? If so, your wife may have a point.I am sure your wife would gladly pay for the second visit. They may find something the second time they missed the 1st. Or get a second opinion.
@owatagoosiam (751)
• United States
6 Mar 08
I am certain my wife would be willing to pay for the visit. But I see no real reason to mistrust the vet who examined the dog first time around. The question was more about how long to wait before following up again.
@olivebranch56 (910)
• United States
3 Mar 08
Does your dog have any other symptoms? Is it's nose warm or cold? When the dog shakes it's head and scratches, is it whining, or acting like it is in pain? If my dog was doing this and acting like he were in distress any other way then I would say yes by all means, go back to the vet. If not then I would look at the hair in it's ear, has it gotten longer and is maybe tickling it's ear. I had a chiauaha and if her hair tickled her ear she would shake and scratch, or if she had that waxy build up in her ear in the little folds and stuff she would also do that. If it was hair, I would take a small pair of scissors and trim it back, if wax I wold give her a good bath and use a Q-tip to get the wax out, you just don't want to go to the inside of the ear canal as I heard their eardrums are not very far in, just in the flap are, and where the little fold areas are. I hope this helps.
@olivebranch56 (910)
• United States
6 Mar 08
I would say that it is either the wax or hairs, and the comment below about the brown stuff doesn't always mean ear infection. If you don't bathe your dog every week the wax build up I was talking about turns that brown color, just from everyday dirt. As long as your dog doesn't seem in distress he should be fine. Now if you do notice he is just laying around and his nose feels warmer than usual, whining without wanting attention, go to the vet. Dogs are like kids, I can tell when my kids are not feeling well just by the subtle changes in them, and most people can do the same with their dogs if they are close to them.
@owatagoosiam (751)
• United States
6 Mar 08
Normal wet nose. Tends to lick her skin (we were told she has skin allergies). Not a lot of whining except for attention. I've never notice her ear hair, so I'll have to make a point of checking. Thanks for the tip about not going into the ear canal. I wouldn't want to hurt the poor girl.
@lightningd (1039)
• United States
1 Mar 08
Since I don't know what kind of dog it is, I'm leaning towards ear mites as the problem. However, some dogs get excess ear hair (shih tzu's are prone to this) that can cause wax to build up and that become bothersome to dogs. You have a few options. (I am not a vet, but I have raised dogs for years, and used to work as a vet assistant.)
With dogs with excess ear hair, the hair needs to be plucked, and the ears cleaned. If it's ear mites, you need to get some mita-clear or similar ear mite medicine. This is available at vet supply stores, sometimes wal-mart or pet stores. To clean the ears, they have a product called Oti-clean that is also available at pet stores or vet supply stores.
Only a vet can diagnose the ear mites for sure, but if they are deep in the ear canal, they could have been missed the first time.
Another suggestion would be to see a different vet. The dog scratching at the ear constantly is not good and the vet should have investigated the problem further. Digging at the ear could cause injury, from the scratching and make his ear raw. Further scratching could lead to infection. Something is going on there. I'd get it taken care of soon.
@owatagoosiam (751)
• United States
6 Mar 08
I wanted to thank you for all the details in your response. I will have to make time to take the dog back to the vet and, certainly, I can look for this Oti-Clean product, too. I do believe there was one time that I saw scratches on her ear, which might have been a too vigorous scratching of an irritated ear.
@lightningd (1039)
• United States
6 Mar 08
No problem. Having worked as a vet assistant and raising dogs as well, I appreciated any information I could get, and I'm happy to pass it along.
I have to say, I am lucky to have a good working relationship with my veterinarian. Not all vets can make time for their clients questions. Dr. Ann likes her clients to have information, and she also expects them to take an active role in their care. When it comes to my animals especially, she expects that I will have a hands on approach and help her. It keeps her costs down by not having to hire an assistant, and it educates the owners as well.
@lightningd (1039)
• United States
2 Mar 08
I happened to stop in at my vet's office today to pick up a tube of special wormer for my horse, as he hasn't kept his weight on the way I like, and I mentioned this discussion to her. I told her what I said, and she said, "Yes, something is going on in the ear. This time of year, dogs like to roll in snow or wet grass and get moisture in their ears as well. While there is always yeast in the ear, mositure can make it worse, which can lead to an infection. The owner should most definitely get the ear checked again, if not by that vet, by another one in the area. It's definitely nothing to mess with."
Just wanted to follow up on the post since I had thought to ask Dr. Ann if she felt I was right in my recommendation earlier today.
@nova1945 (1612)
• United States
1 Mar 08
It could also be a foxtail which the dog managed to dislodge before his last vet exam. Or even a toothache. Believe it or not, dental problems can cause symptoms that look like an ear problem. You should take the dog to a vet, especially if you can't find the problem yourself. Something is wrong for sure.
@owatagoosiam (751)
• United States
6 Mar 08
You were the only one to mention a toothache. That isn't something that I would have considered, either. Sort of a radiating pain from a tooth bothering her, which she feels in her ear. I don't think she'd get a foxtail in her ear, because we have a small back yard lacking foxtails. However, I'm certain there are a number of things that could be in a dog's ear and work their way out before a vet visit.
@nova1945 (1612)
• United States
7 Mar 08
My daughter is a vet tech and she has seen a lot of dental problems so that's what made me think of it. I also had a dog years ago that had a toothache and we thought it was an ear problem until we took him to the vet. Turned out to be a bad toothache, and as soon as they took care of it he was fine again. Hope everything turns out well for your doggy.
@heidibur (310)
• United States
7 Mar 08
I was a Vet Tech and now I am a dog groomer and i see alot of ears on a daily basis I also have a dog that has ear problems every couple of months he starts to shake his head and scratch at his ear. he gets yeast infections in his right ear always the right one and if you hold your dogs ear open and get your nose down in it and it has a foul smell it most likley is a yeast infection.
hate to say it but good old fashioned soap and warm water is great but you have to make sure you dry the ear out all the way or you will be adding to the problem. The Vet should have a product called Panolog Ointment it works great i use it for my dog.
@clinsbull (192)
• China
2 Mar 08
i have a dog named penpen,he is very smart.i like it very much.sometimes he maybe have a stomache becouse he always cry and crying when he sleep.i would take it to a vet ,he give some medicine for my dog ,i taken feeding my dog .so now ,he is very good ,very brisk.everyday he wants to play with me .
@owatagoosiam (751)
• United States
6 Mar 08
I'm not sure how this is relevant, but I'm glad you love your dog.
@manigandan18 (243)
• India
1 Mar 08
its not a problem i tooo had the same doubt better u bath your dog twice a week ,..thats it
@owatagoosiam (751)
• United States
6 Mar 08
I read the rest of the responses before commenting. Cleaning the ears sounds like sound advice.
@cami_love (87)
• United States
2 Mar 08
I would suggest calling them and telling them the problem is still there and see what they say. If they say bring him in and still find nothing, I would take the dog to a different vet. Something is wrong and since the dog can't tell you what is bothering him, you have to keep checking until you find out what it is. Good luck and give your doggie a happy rub from me.
@owatagoosiam (751)
• United States
6 Mar 08
I'll give her a happy rub from "cami_love" and she'll look all confused, but love it nonetheless. She didn't have an infection last time, and unless I have some particular reason to mistrust the vet's qualifications, I feel a bit weird just going to another vet until I hear that something is wrong.
A sort of hypochondria for your dog. If you keep going to a vet, eventually, your dog will be prescribed something. If they don't really have a problem, giving them medicine might be harmful. That's a concern of mine.
@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
2 Mar 08
Could be a number of things but first I'd try getting some ear cleaner for dogs and clean it's ears out. If that doesn't work then it may be a hair that's bothering it and is why it's shaking it's head and scratching so much.
@cortjo73 (6498)
• United States
2 Mar 08
If you can stomach it, grab a wet paper towel and clean your dogs ears out. Be gentle but, get in there and wipe them out with the wet paper towel. My dog gets ear infections whenever his ears get wet after he goes out in the rain. It makes his ears itch and he shakes his head back and forth. You can go to the vet and he or she will likely give you a prescription for some medicine to put into your dogs ears. Or, you can try to clean them out yourself and see if that fixes the problem. Then just make sure that you keep his ears clean and dry. If you let him out into the rain, dry his ears when he comes back in.