U.S. Army members are shooting down Mosques in Iraq
By the_ruler
@the_ruler (1442)
Turkey
March 23, 2008 12:42pm CST
I have just seen that on the TV that the "democratic" U.S. army is shooting down mosques in Iraq after causing death of 1 million civil people in 5 years.
I just can't understand that why a person would say "YEAAAAH!" after shooting down a mosque with a rocket... What a democracy.
I think you should consider these things while voting. If you really care about the world.
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13 responses
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
24 Mar 08
Actually, the US has a "Hands off policy" when it comes to Mosques.
Therefore I can only conclude that you are in error.
If you saw ANYONE shooting at Mosques then it was other Iraqis.
Since it is common knowledge that the terrorists and their leaders use Mosques as meeting places and safe havens I am fully in support of making Mosques legitimate military targets.
As it is, they are not.
Go spread your lies someplace else.
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@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
24 Mar 08
YOu go and spread your lies elsewhere! YOu most of the US citizens are simply UNAWARE of the situation in there or simply BLIND!
So, you say I am a lier just because of that? Well, IF you want to see the hannds of policy about the mosques in IRAQ here is the policy:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Squ2UezM1O0
This is how they destroy mosques. And I am still going on to spread my lies , here is another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEJUUfUjYxQ
And the US armies are really peaceful and they respect our holy believes really. Want to see a proof?
here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mnN3RbTSZE
Isn't it just A SHAME? IS HE PISSING OFF TERRORISTS THERE??
Yeah, I bet you will also want to see your victory in IRaq, here are the killed terrorists you mention:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b_TXmMOvmg
Great victory indeed. And here is another video about the massacre:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5J0WKb8kJo
Then you are the liar here! You are the one who is just defending a violent propoganda!
U.S. has went there for oil, killed millions of people just for that...
By the way, the first reason to go Iraq was nothing with the terrorism. It was about mass killing weapons but guess what?? THEY DID NOT FIND ANY KIND OF MASS KILLING WEAPONS. Even wikipedia says that.. But you are too blind to see this!
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
25 Mar 08
Turkey didn't attack at the Iraqi citizens and you are just being so rude.
I have to warn you because you are insulting me and you know nothing about the real situation.
Taliban attacked the WTC towers, yes that's true but you just know a little part about it. Why didn't any jewish people go to work that day? In addition, everyone knows that US supported Taliban all the time when Taliban was attacking Russia. So, you were supporting terrorism those days but when they attacked you (in fact that's another question mark) you say US is just saving the world as a hero!
Youtube is not a valid source of anything? The valid source is your useless words and useless information? I have showed you the facts there, the videos are taken in that place this is no lie.
And You know, in WTC towers nearly 10 thousand people die. I am also sorry for that but you are not making a fight back in iraq. you are doing something else. (oil)
And when it comes to the war between northern Iraq and Turkey, PKK the kurdish terrorist group killed more than 30 thousand people in Turkey. And they are still killing and threatiening people in our south provinces. I AM LIVING IN TURKEY and don't say you know that more than me! I have friends who experienced that THREAT. I personally saw that in little towns here! They are doing everything to damage our people and country, not just ONE attact to kill about 10 thousand people. They have been attacking us for more than 20 years now!
Plus, Turkey doesn't invade Iraq and kill iraqi people. We are at war with PKK supporters and there are not such foolish things as you do in there. We are not going overseas and killing millions of people just for oil. We are trying to save our borders.
If you want to close your eyes to the reality, then it is ok!
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
25 Mar 08
I am not trying to offend you really. but that's a fact US supported terrorism againist Russia, you might have heard that maybe this link might be helpful:
http://www.tenc.net/articles/jared/madein.htm
This was what I was trying to tell when I said US supported Al Qaide or Taliban.
In addition, I have already showed you the american people shooting mosque and destroying it. If you don't watch it then it is your problem and makes clear that you are already closed to the facts. I am not offending to the americans but it is clear on the video!
And as I have said before,there weren't many people dying in Iraq before the war but after it, a civil war began. Maybe you doN't count the deaths in civil war?
Accept it or not, always the stronger one does that. And as far as US is economically strong, then they are doing that too.
@anotherbirthday (810)
• Malaysia
23 Mar 08
Yes I've seen many times on TV about the rudeness of US armies on Iraq. In fact, the current situation in Iraq now is much more WORSE compared before the US invasion. Many US citizen itself were and are protesting the invasion. As in Asia, I know that the west media be used to hide the fact about the brutality of their armies on Iraq, but I have many other reliable media in my country, and in Asia that I can trust. I can simply compare the news from several channels to know which fact is true. I'm also doubt that this is have something to do with radical christianity-minded, if you read the Bible, you should know. Many christians be used to relate terrorism with Islam and Islam is bad to them, but how hypocrite they are, if you read Bible, you should know the fact. I don't wana blame any Christian friends, and in fact there's many good Christians everywhere, as well as in Mylot (Hi there!), but I think the armies must have been brain-washed before they were forced to invade Iraq. Just my thought though. Thats why they'll feel somehow good after killing an iraqi, or after blowing the Mosque as you tell.
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@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
23 Mar 08
Thanks for the information anotherbirthday. I agree with you, there were many photoshoots and videos from the area as a proof. As I have mentioned before, I have some friends in the US who are also aware of the situation too. Additionally, as I have mentioned in a comment we talk about world politics with friends and it is something really serious. none of us are brain washed and we doN't only follow the news from muslim people, and it is really amusing that the people who believe in the same religion with me consider that I am not one of them. Yeah, that's another issue. The people who think in my way are very least in my country and there have been many bad things in the past about that too. So the comment above really seemed amusing to me when I am also not accepted by the "muslim" people over here, besides I don't need to be accepted as a muslim by anotherone. As I always say, religion is a personal thing. So if you can't dislike me because of the food I prefer, this should also be the same about religion.
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@CherylsPearls (1269)
• United States
24 Mar 08
I looked at all the news sources and cannot find any reference to a mosque being attacked yesterday or today. Where is your story located?
I do consider the war when I am voting. I am a Democrat and I hope under a Democrat someone will get us out of the d*mned Middle-East. It has cost us over 4,000 coalition lives, and over 500 million US dollars. Oh, and we are not done yet. We will spend many more millions and billions trying to help rebuild a d*mned country that doesn't want rebuilt. Yep, what a Democracy! The US is always d*mned if we do and d*mned if we don't. I don't even know why we try anymore!
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
24 Mar 08
they are not calling you as bullies for nothing. because you are only doing bullies there.
The main reason of USA was just OIL. Your country has the control of everything in the area now, especially the oil, no worries. You already won.
There were not such terror problems in Iraq but after USA entered there, a civil war began. Yes, this is another way of democracy and solving problems.
USA should stop acting like a fake police of the world. I would like to say "police" but in fact they are the ones who needs to be arrested. See the videos in my next comment if you are really interested in being realistic. There were many 3,4 5 years old terrorists there ... yeah, everybody EVEN CHILDREN in iraq are terrorists for you. If they were not, why would your angel-like marines kill them ?? (!)
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@CherylsPearls (1269)
• United States
25 Mar 08
A couple of those videos are not even on YouTube now. One is a film of Vietnam from the early 1970's. You're a little late in worrying about that now.
The other videos you point out, how do we know who did the killing there? It could have been Iraq's own "people" agains their own. That certainly happens all the time.
And please, Iraq was a dung-hole of the world long before the US got there. Hussein used chemical weapons on his own people and on the Iranians. They are still finding graves of mass murders committed under his rule. Many thousands of Iraqi's have been tortured by their own countrymen under Hussein's rule. And all those are easily verifible facts. Go to Wikipedia if you like...it's there.
Don't try to get American's to cry too much for your part of the world. I think we are pretty much sick of you. I know I am. I think you'd best be left to kill each other. That's what you've been doing for thousands of years now. Don't stop on our account.
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
25 Mar 08
I typed the urls of the videos manually, can't you see the first 2 videos? and the other one about a us soldier acts againist islamic believes?
They are still on youtube but I might have mistyped them. Cuz I just looked for them and found and wrote here.
Additionally, while nobody wants US to attack us and "bring democracy" why does it insist on that? Is it because they are very very good? is not there a reason behind it? You might be sick of us but your politicians are not. They are after something more valuable here.
Yeah, we have been killing each other while peaceful americans are not doing the same thing. You think you used to live in america for thousands of years? Do you know what happened to native americans? that's the least you did really. Aren't americans also killing people for thousands of years? Didn't they also participate in both of the world wars?...
and in another comment of mine, I mentioned something else. the support of USA behind that famous Usama Bin Laden. This is also a fact that's known by many people. Even my father, when he heard the name of that damn terrorist he was surprisingly saying "they were supported by the usa againist russia" and he was amazed to see they shoot WTC towers. Whatever, that doesn't change the fact of US support to the terror.
@drscorpius (166)
• Czech Republic
27 Mar 08
USA is preaching good but is doing evil!!!
You cant see that? Where are Saddams weapons of mass destruction?
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
27 Mar 08
According to satellite images, we think they went to Syria.
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@drscorpius (166)
• Czech Republic
31 Mar 08
Great, so Americans can make an attack against Syria!......after some years they can make an attack against all the world! Americans are bad boys!
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
31 Mar 08
"What you gonna do when they come for you?"
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@Aingealicia (1905)
• United States
31 Mar 08
To think this is only the beginning. I so agree with you. The issues in Tibet, the Gulf, Iraq and so on and so forth.
Voting is going to be an issue this year.
Ainge
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@anotherbirthday (810)
• Malaysia
25 Mar 08
Hi ruler, it looks like you are dealing with US armies here, or may be with Bush's inferiors or fans. Its obvious that they will not believe in you, because they really have such good reputation don't they? Don't worry ruler, they are still many US citizens that not the fans of Bush.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
25 Mar 08
Actually, he is dealing with Americans, Veterans and Patriots who are tired of seeing our Nation and President bashed by a bunch of know nothing third worlders who can't see beyond their camels nose.
I can guarantee you one thing.... the terrorists will think twice before they attack the Eagle on our own soil again.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
27 Mar 08
You know what?... I served my country 30 years ago, in fact I had already finished my military service by the time I was you age.
What have you done so far other than sit around and talk trash about things you have no knowledge of?
I see you are from Malaysia, hell that is about as third world as you can get.
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@anotherbirthday (810)
• Malaysia
27 Mar 08
heheh, just same as fans of Bush lol .the words and slogan also quite similar
@academic2 (7000)
• Uganda
26 Mar 08
Dont forget that even the most disciplined army will have a little room for fustrations and unconventional army behavior-look at it this way, youare trying to save these guys from aqaida, they allow alqaida to hide in mosques and lurk dangerously at the Marines with bombs strapped allover their bodies! You can forgive them cant you?
@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
27 Mar 08
Say what??!! Young American soldiers are risking their lives to aid the insurgents?? It's too bad we were such awful bullies with hitler too.. Though, actually, if we wanted to dominate the world, we probably would have done it by now, what with being the only super power for a while.. At the very least we would have invaded Mexico and Canada, like we hear of countries invading their neighbors (like kuwait) so often elsewhere..
- I will however concede that the post world war 2 boundaries made for lots of trouble, including some places in the mideast.. - as for the oil.. well, it doesn't look to me like we've gotten any of that, but we could use a little of our lots of tax dollars spent in this effort back.. If no one appreciates it that is.. Don't you think democracy, discussing things and groups peacefully counterbalancing each other (with tolerance) would be better than all the hatred and feuding that's been going on for so long? I mean at least in america the bombs the parties throw at each other are words.
- What with all that oil, and no dictator and sons to greedily not share the profits and benefits, everyone in Iraq could be free, happy and wealthy.. Indeed every person in the mideast! Unless all the feuding carries on until after the need for oil has expired and people have developed alternate energy sources because of the huge price for oil/gas we all pay... wouldn't that be a hoot!
- in all seriousness tho.. all the best,
@4ftfingers (1310)
•
25 Mar 08
I haven't seen this but I'm very sceptical about whether the report is true or not. A few weeks ago I watched a programme on tv about the British forces in Afghanistan who were specifically ordered not to attack any religious buildings. The main reason for this is because we would lose any support we do have from the the Afghani nationals. I'm sure the US military would apply the same discipline to themselves.
In the programme the insurgents were hiding in the Mosques because they knew that they couldn't be shot at there.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
25 Mar 08
The US army is dealing with terrorists out there. We all know that terrorists are cowards who love to hide behind religion and duck into mosques. Do you think those scumbags would refrain from killing people in a synagogue or a catholic church? We all know they wouldn't. They'd strap a bomb to themselves and kill as many women and children as possible. US troops need to defend themselves and if that means blowing up a mosque filled with terrorists, so be it.
Funny thing is, you're from Turkey. Turkey allied with the US against Iraq. Did you're little terrorist news channel fail to report that?
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
25 Mar 08
What the heck is funny about being from Turkey? Do I have to support the stupid prime minister who is currently leading turkey? YOu know what? I am completely feeling embrassed because such an idiot is being prime minister here and I hope Turkish army will do something againist him and stop him selling all the sources of our country to foreigners.
That's my difference here, I am just not covered my own countries propaganda, I hope BCMike also could understand this. Because Turkish TVs don't support what I am doing but only few channels and they are not islamic ones. He is just trying to offend me whit whatever he has.
Anyway, While United states was doing whatever they like to the natives it was all good. As I have mentioned in another post, the stronger one always does that. Wheter it is Russia or Usa and there's no need to deny that fact really.
And another thing about aljazere or whatever. I don't watch whatever it is because I am from Turkey. I searched and found my videos from youtube and by saying "EVEN wikipedia says that" I didn't mean "ONLY wikipedia says" I meant "it is known commonly"
And just go on believing US army is killing the terrorists there.. Just go on... I believe US already knows where Osama is, but they won't show him until they attacked everywhere they like.
And also I have suspiucious feelings about WTC towers. I even think USA might have planned it by itself to have a reason to do all the things after it.
Whatever it is, the world is inside a war between economically strong countries(Usa,Russia) and/or imperialists.
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
25 Mar 08
Additionally US wouldn't work with the current prime minister at all if they were againist islamofacist actions. He is really one of them I strongly belive but unfortunately he is the current prime minister...
Just waiting to see our army to get him down and remove this threat
@yasmin02476 (292)
•
31 Mar 08
Its wrong its just all very wrong!! cant even put it in words how much this situation infuriates me.......US army need to realise you can never help some thing if you have no knowlegde on it!! Isnt it there job to protect well why dont they do just that!!
@ocean3 (17)
• Russian Federation
23 Apr 08
It's not who you vote for, it's who you should vote for, so please vote for who you should vote for, becouse if you don't vote for who you should vote for you obviously vote for who you shouldn't vote for and leave the person who you should have voted for OUT for the person who you voted for but shouldn't have voted for because the person who you shouldn't have voted for you did vote for but please vote for the person you really should vote for as this really is a big deal. vote for the more honest person.
@questionsnoanswers (622)
• Canada
21 Apr 08
What happened to the right and freedom to warship, and pray? These people here are stuck in the middle of a war zone, afraid for their lifes. They go to a temple/mosque to pray and now they cant even be safe there!
Thats completly unmoral in my opinion.