Oregon man's property ransacked after Craigslist hoax ... cruel, cruel, cruel...
By ladyluna
@ladyluna (7004)
United States
March 24, 2008 2:30pm CST
Hello all,
Have you seen this news story?
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_032408_news_craigslist_hoax.1ffb2c9c.html
"On his way home he stopped a truck loaded down with his work ladders, lawn mower and weed eater.
"I informed them I was the owner, but they refused to give the stuff back," Salisbury said. "They showed me the Craigslist printout and told me they had the right to do what they did."
The trespassers, armed with printouts of the ad, tried to brush him off. "They honestly thought that because it appeared on the Internet it was true," Salisbury said. "It boggles the mind."
This man's home has been ransacked, and many of his belonging stolen, including his horse! Though, thankfully the woman who took his horse left her contact information for the legitimate owner. All because of a cruel hoax on Craiglist.com
[b]So, what are your thoughts on this?
Who is ultimately responsible for the terrible fate that has befallen this man? Craig's List? The thieves? Or, the hoaxster?
What would you do if you were on the butt end of this cruel hoax?
Does this bring into question on-line organizations like Craig's List, and any responsibility they may have to monitor their content?
Would you still interact on Craig's List after this, or does this scare you off? [/b]
Thanks! I'm looking forward to your thoughts on this.
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6 responses
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
25 Mar 08
OH my, poor man.
Alhtough in this case I don't really see how ever more monitoring could prevent it, so I do blame the hoaxter. Now it's just a matter of finding him. I am sure it is possible.
As for Craig's list how can they know it's an hoax. Lots of people go there and most things are legitimate, I don't really see how they could have checked to see if it was true or not.
However the people that took the things also have the responsibility. You see, even if they were taking the things,it was their responsibility to check the veracity of the claim before.
So to be fair I would blame the hoaxter first, the people who took the things next. Not the site.
You know people are getting too used to have everything checked and rechecked for them. Monitored, made right , protected, etc..... but in life we are the ones responsible for our selves, and our actions. Taking something, no matter who tells you it's ok, is something that should be done with responsibility,checking for ourselves if the information we have is correct or not.
It's not the site's responsibility or anyone else's but the people taking the things to check.
Nowadays we keep making others responsible for what we do. If one goes to a bar, gets drunk and has an accident - blame the bartender that sold the drinks.
An idiot doesn't know how to hold his/her coffee and burns himself/herself - blame the establishment that sold the coffee.
No one is responsible for their actions, it's always someone else's fault.
Makes no sense to me.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
25 Mar 08
Thanks for the follow-up Arkaf.
The 'free' aspect of the site most likely limits their desire to screen the site in its entirety.
Good point about a person walking into the newspaper storefront to place an add. It's highly unlikely that the classifieds counter person would seek to clarify that the placer of the add was in fact a resident at the address listed. Excellent point!
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
25 Mar 08
What a nightmare! Does Craiglist have a warning that tells its users to check out the posts and make sure they are legit before, say, looting someone's house? If it
doesn't, it should, IN BOLD LETTERS! They also have to find a way to beef up their security so it doesn't happen again. As it is, I would be afraid to post anything on Craiglist after reading this story.
I would consider such an intrustion into my life to be a case of identity theft since the hoaxter posted in my name. He should be charged with fraud at the very least.
Of course the people who took his stuff will also have to
be charged if they don't bring it back, because it was taken under false pretenses and failure to return the items is the same as stealing.
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 May 08
I remember this article. I don't know if anyone was ever caught in it. It's hard to believe that not only would someone post something like this but that ppl would just go into someones home and start taking things. I would think though that it had to be someone who knew him b/c they knew he would be away for the day. I think Craiglist should make ppl register, like Ebay does, with certain information so that they can be tracked if there are problems.
**AT PEACE WITHIN**
~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
25 Mar 08
The incident must have been a nightmare for the victim, ladyluna. This also speaks to the idiocy of some people who are so gullible they will go along with anything. It would be unthinkable for anyone with an ounce of common sense to think that this man would just give up everything he owned -no matter what the circumstances were.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
25 Mar 08
Hello Worldwise,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this issue.
I fully agree that this was, and probably continues to be a nightmare for the homeowner. I can only imagine that the ransackers trashed the guys property, not so unlike the kind of whirlwind that accompanies the day after Thanksgiving Sales, where retail stores are turned topsy-turvey by bargain hunters. Though, at least the news account indicates that a stream of his returning belongings continue to show up in his driveway -- which is a good thing! I just hope that the hoaxster's identity is found out.
You make a great point in contrasting common sense, and gullibility. Whether it's the internet or not, your point is sound -- people need to think before they act! Great point!
@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
27 Jun 08
Ah this is an old one, I'm surprised I didn't see it earlier. Craigslist really has its flaws but the sad thing is people use it and believe it all the time, even for "adult" get togethers.
I think the scamster is mostly responsible for this, but the contractor should have been more careful with this situation. Craigslist should have a verification method similar to many other sites to help prevent something like this. Now in terms of using Craigslist again, I only read it on occasion to see some of the weird nonsense (already mentioned one of many Luna...)
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@xXxMikesWifeyxXx (3072)
• United States
30 Jun 08
OMG!! that is so horrible!.why would someone want to do that to somoene. its not funny. that is so mean.
Of course its the hoaksters fault, and obviously the people who came into this man house taking stuff arent veary smart.. dont you think you would check with police about somthing like that first? lmao im not a genius by any means but im smart enough not to go a take things from someones house just because i see na article online saying its okay...
I think that everyone who went into this mans house should be brought up on charges for being stupid. eccept the lady who took the horse. because she did leave her contact number just incase i wasnt. she was just looking out for this horse..
I dont use craigs list,and i never will. im suprised they are even still standing. awhile back, some put and add on their looking to hire someone.. the girl went in for the interview and he murdered her... you would think they would so somthing about all this stuff happning on that website..
I wonder, do they have to approve posts before they are posted?.. i hope not because if so i would defiantly sue the website. because they had no proof what these people were saying was true.. and now look its caused this guy to loose most of his life earnings...
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