Honesty Between Friends

@worldwise1 (14885)
United States
March 25, 2008 1:32pm CST
While responding to a discussion yesterday a certain truth was brought into the light for me. It was a discussion about best friends. I pointed out that my relationship with my best friend has suffered since she started dating a new guy about a year ago. This man has been rude to me and I have good reason to think he does not really like me. The only reason I can find for his behavior is because of his jealousy of our friendship. Some partners are like this as I have discovered in the past. Now, I don't like to give my opinion unless I am asked, so I had never discussed how I feel about her boyfriend with my best friend -until today. I finally decided to tell her just how I feel about this man and hope she would not take it in a wrong way. She was very understanding and said she had felt that there was some problem but waited for me to say something. So, whatever happens from here I have freed myself from that burden which was weighing heavily on my mind. We both agreed that I do not have to deal with this man and that is fine by me. Have you ever been in a similar situation with regards to a close friend? What was the outcome?
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@tjades (3591)
• Jamaica
26 Mar 08
There was this one girlfriend who was more like a sister to us but the relationship took a turn for the worst after we adviced her that maybe the guy she was talking to was trying to buy her love. He would buy her many things and try to be there for her financially but we did not like this. She took a dislike to our "meddling" and she withdrew from us even though we still communicated. It hurts like hell. We learnt just this week that after being with the guy for some time and now they have two sweet baby girls she decided to break the union. The root of her decision seems to be that she felt as if he was now taking her for granted and she had to constantly give up much of her ideals to make the relationship work. Well that thaught me a lesson. Even when Im dying to say something I wont unless it is absolutely necessary. The only persons I take those chances with are my own sisters, and two brothers (one sort of adopted). If I am asked though I might not hold back. I ask my friends to be very frank with me. I would not keep them as friends if I only wanted them to soothe my ego.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
My friend and I have been through so much together, tjades, and I am closer to her than my own sister. We have cultivated this kind of friendship over the years, and she depends on my advice whenever she has any problem. I never offer advice unless I am asked and she respects me all the more for that reason.
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@chrissieatu (1033)
• China
26 Mar 08
I have not in this situation before. I seldom interfere with my friend's relationship with others, especially with her boyfriend. For one thing, I would like to leave my friend the rooms to be herself and take care of her things. For another, I think it's just not easy for a third person to judge her partner or her relationship with him. People in love are kind of lost. And I am not sure how the boy feel. You know, some one is jealous,just like the one you mentioned. I personally do not want to get involved. If I were you, I would prefer to forget it. After all, I do not want my friend to be trapped in between. And they will always figure out a way to solve it.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
This is not just a casual friendship I am speaking of, chrissieatu. We have been best friends for 14 years. She always comes to me when she needs advice, and I don't butt in. I would never tell my friend that she shouldn't be with anyone that she has been with, but I also don't want to see her hurt needlessly. Our conversation centered around the fact that there is a conflict between her boyfriend and myself, and I would be less than honest if I pretended to like him when I don't.
• China
28 Mar 08
Maybe I am that kind of person who prefer to step back in this situation. I always want to keep a certain distance between my friend and her boyfriend. I agree with you that honesty is very important between friends. I am not sure what I will do when my close friend finally has a boyfriend and there is some problem between him and I. I think my friend will just like yours or to straight forward (that's what she usually be).
• United States
26 Mar 08
Do not tell your friends anything that you do not want them to know, you two may one day not be friends anymore and that friend might turn on you with your secrets.
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• United States
27 Mar 08
I had a really close friend too. He went Judas on me. He betrayed me. I told him my close secrets and he said he would no long be my friend. Some close friend he was.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
This friend is my only really close friend, rogue, and there is nothing that we cannot share. I would never worry that she would reveal any of my secrets.
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@carolbee (16230)
• United States
26 Mar 08
Am glad you were able to clear the air with your friend. That makes for a terribly uncomfortable situation. It's hard for me to single out one very close friend because I have more than one who is dear to my heart. My closest friends are married so I don't have to deal with a problem of this nature. I like their husbands as well and they like me. If I was in the same situation as you were, I would want to straighten things out also.
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@carolbee (16230)
• United States
26 Mar 08
I was good friends with someone and just had to get away. Way too much drama for me to handle plus my husband couldn't stand her. I had to live with my husband..lol I have slowly backed away from the friendship but I didn't want to hurt her feelings. I don't like being used and she was a user also. I know how drama can ruin a friendship.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
Some of us are just more stable than others, carolbee. This girl is constantly in and out of relationships but she seems to like the drama.
@Darkwing (21583)
26 Mar 08
As it happens, yes I have. A very close friend of mine, lived alone in the village. Her first marriage had broken because of violence on the part of her hubby. She's very small and slight, and she was lonely... by the time she reached forty, she wanted somebody to share her life with. But, she wanted a somewhat younger man. Well, she met one, and brought him into the pub a couple of times. He was false... he put up a front, which I didn't like, and I told her I didn't trust him. Said it was her choice, but if anything ever went wrong I was there for her. We agreed on that. Time went on, and he tried to get round me. Bought me a drink whenever he came in the pub, and kept hugging me and asking if I liked him better now. I told him "no", lol. I said he hadn't done anything to prove my views of him wrong, and that we would have to agree to disagree, but that if he ever hurt her, he'd have to answer to me. A few months later, he proved me right... he wanted a child, she didn't. She had a good, solid reason for that, because of a previous medical examination. Ok... biggot that he is, he moved out and got another girl pregnant. She was devastated. Cried on my shoulder, and I comforted her. He came back a couple of times asking her to take him back... I think only because he couldn't actually live with the other one. She eventually took him back, but whilst she was working, he was sneaking off to see this other girl. I said nothing, but they split again a bit later. She swore she would never take him back, but eventually she did. Then the pregnant girl came around and picked a fight with both of them. Since then, they've stayed together, but I can't tolerate him. He said something one night that made me see red. My friend had gone home, so I laid into him, and told him what I thought. We haven't spoken since, and my friend and I agreed to go our separate ways, but still, when she's in the pub on her own, we talk. He doesn't know that, because I will not talk to them when together. That's fine... it's her life and if she's happy then that's all that matters, but I can see it all ending in tears. I hope not, but I'm pretty sure it will. Brightest Blessings.
@Darkwing (21583)
28 Mar 08
Thank you... and yes, you're quite right. That's all we can do, my friend. My sentiments exactly. Have a great day!
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
You are a friend indeed, Darkwing, as I try to be. Sometimes we can look at our friend's situation and it is like watching a train heading for a wreck, but we do not have the power to stop it. In the end all we can do is be there for them when the time comes that they really need us.
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• United States
25 Mar 08
Brava! I am glad you talked with your best friend. And she sounds like a good friend. It is true that you don't have to deal with the boyfriend but I hope you and your best friend get to do more things together.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
We have been best friends for 14 years, sarah, and I am a good bit older than she is. I feel that is one reason her man dislikes me -because she respects me and values my opinion about things. She is like a cross between a little sister and a daughter to me and I would hate to lose her friendship.
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• United States
26 Mar 08
I don't think you will lose her because even though you are older, you treat as a peer , not a daughter.And you respect her choices.Unlike other " best friends" that would demean the guy she is dating now, you stood back and just let her be.And your friend must really like it because you are still friends.
@lucy02 (5015)
• United States
26 Mar 08
So far I don't know if a friends partner did not like me. I do remember when I was single that a coworker told me her husband didn't want her to hang out with me cause I was single. I guess he thought we'd pick up guys, lol. We didn't really hang out anyway and she said it in a joking way so I don't know if he was serious or not but I was told he was very jealous of her.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
I've seen it happen many times, lucy, where the man is so insecure that he doesn't want the woman to have friends. I would never allow my man to isolate me from my friends.
@Shaun72 (15959)
• Palatka, Florida
25 Mar 08
I have dealt with it myself in the past one of my close friends ex boyfriends pushed me out of the door years ago and told me to leave. So I did. I told me friend about it later she was pretty mad at him over it. Also my ex husband tried to tell me I needed to stop hanging around my best friend and her husband. i told him I knew both of them before I met you. He was just looking to start trouble is all.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
Well, Shaun, my friend has assured me that she is not willing to give up our friendship over this issue, but either way I feel much better now that I've had a heart-to-heart with her.
@Shaun72 (15959)
• Palatka, Florida
26 Mar 08
That is great I am glad she knows and understands how you feel.
@subha12 (18441)
• India
26 Mar 08
it is very nice example of true friendship. this level of comfort must be there. in true friendship there should not be any misunderstanding. i think you have good level of comfirt with friend.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
Yes, subha, it is true that we are very comfortable with one another. We have always been able to say exactly what is on our minds.
@lexus54 (3572)
• Singapore
26 Mar 08
I'm glad you let the matter off your chest and you confided in your best friend about her boyfriend. I think you should feel relieved that she is understanding and realize that not everyone will get along well with everyone else they encounter. I've not actually been in your position, but for me, I will just try and avoid those whom I do not think I can get along well. Of course, there will be occasions when you and your best friend (and her boyfriend) will meet up at the same functions, and you can't avoid encountering him. If your best friend is sensitive to the rift between you and her friend, she will probably know how to act during such functions to diffuse any potential situations that may arise. Anyway, I hope in time, your relationship with him will improve as he may be around for a long while.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
I don't see us ever getting along, lexus, but, like I told my friend, I will not have to be around the guy.
@ciades (1623)
• Philippines
26 Mar 08
Glad that im not encountering of a situation. Me and my bestfriend shared a lot of things in life. And im bless that every boyfriends that we had before understand and accepted our friendship. Well, ofcourse we have a few times to be with together. But we have time to meet each other and sometimes we going out together with our boyfriends. Luckily because those guys were cool same as we. And we are open to each other comments to the partner that we have. We asked,listened,explained and observed.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
I agree, ciades, that it works out beautifully when everything comes together like that.
@ayou82 (3450)
• Philippines
26 Mar 08
True friendship should have honesty.. We have to be honest to others coz we want the same deal from our friends.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
I wouldn't have it any other way, ayou!
@nicholejade (2430)
• Canada
25 Mar 08
I think everyone has gone through something like this with a friend of some sorts. I am going through it right now. My ex friend is getting married and I have been left out of the wedding party. After her asking me on several occasions to be her maid of honor. I have put so much time, effort and money into things for her wedding to find out a couple weeks ago I am out of the wedding party, lost all the money I have put into it thus far and to find that I am invited to the wedding. I am not going to go into great detail in this thread about it. I do have it in another thread under my discussions.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
That's such a shame, nicholejade, but she just might come to her senses, so don't give up on her. Usually when a friend starts to distance themselves from you there is something going on that they feel will not hold up under your scrutiny.
• Canada
26 Mar 08
I am not going to her wedding as my soon to be sister in law is getting married the day before in a different province. So I am not going to rush back with how she burned me. I don't think im being stuck up or selfish in either way. I am doing what is best for me and my family right now. So with me being part of the sister in laws wedding I am obligied to give her my full attention. I'm not going to bend over backwards anymore.
• India
26 Mar 08
I had a similar situation. I had two good friends. Both of them were very possesive on me. I found it difficult to manage them because one would easily get angry if I talk to the other for more time. I always used to advice them that friendship should be open and non possesive. But posseviness made the friendship dark and now i lost friendship with both of them.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
The situation is a little bit different, myheart, when it is your boyfriend or husband that is so jealous, but I've been in that situation with friends competing for attention also.
@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
26 Mar 08
I felt this way about someone my brother was once engaged to. I felt that she did not really want the relationship to succeed. I also noticed that he acted like someone I did not even know or want to know when he was with her. She broke it off, for his good. Then he and I had this discussion, and he asked why I did not give him my opinions on this at the time he was engaged, and I told him because he was a trained minister and social work professional, I thought he just naturally would know. He responded that trained professionals often cannot be professional about themselves.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
How true, GG! I guess people can be too close to the situation to be objective about it.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
27 Mar 08
I never had that problem really that I know of, except once my best friend that I spend all my time with, got a new boyfriend, she dumped like a red hot potato, I believe it was her decision but he could have had something to do with it too.
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@Mickie30 (2626)
26 Mar 08
When I was younger I had a lot of friends mainly they were what I call shallow friends. Friends you hang around with and date boys with etc. Now I have meaningful friends. Friends I know will not use me or hurt me. I am older now and have different interests. My best friends I know will never hurt me and I am trust them. Trust is a big issue.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
My friend and I are as close as sisters, Mickie, and I think we will continue to be so.
@mummymo (23706)
25 Mar 08
Well done sweety! Honesty usually is the best policy and I bet you feel a lot better now! I remember years aback when a friend of mine got a new partner after her marriage split up - they ended up moving into the country but even before then I couldn't relax and he was aalways running me down - I felt so uncomfortable around him - it got to the stage that he was so possesive I couldn't spend any time with my friend as he was always there and whenever we tried to talk he told us both we were stupid. There was no way I was going to let an arrogant, domineering slob talk to me that way and we eventually lost touch as she wouldn't hear a word against him! We sent each other occasional emails but after she married him it got even more irregular! I am happy to say that she threw him out last year and one of the first things she did was get in touch! I am glad that you didn't let things get to that stage with your best friend! xx
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
Yes, mummymo, my friend and I had a really deep and heartfelt talk over this, and she even told me that she is getting tired of him. This man came into her life and played up to her weaknesses in order to gain control. She has been dropping hints lately about how possessive he is. I know for a fact that he is only trying to buy her affection and he is not an honest man.
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
26 Mar 08
Actually I had a very good friend and when she finally found someone he came with two kids. She had never been married or had children and suddenly she became his girlfriend and a step mom going to school for sporting events etc. I was so happy for her....but she didn't have time for me anymore and I totally understand her priorities and the new adventures she was experincing....but she totally gave up any time we had to be with them. I found out today that they are getting married and I am very happy for her. So in a way I understand what you are going through. I hope things work out for all of you!
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
I truly hope that you and your friend can reconnect at some point in the future, jillhill, and it is a sign of what a good friend you are to wish her happiness.
@gemini_rose (16264)
25 Mar 08
Oh yes I have been there a few times, before my best friend moved about a year ago now, we were very close, and her partner hated me, he hated me because he was jealous, but most of all he hated me because he knew I could see straight through him and see him for what he really was. He also knew that me and my friend talked about everything and that if I told her something then I was normally right, she listened to what I had to say and knew I was telling her the truth and so he tried to cause me trouble at every turn! I would just stay out of his way, I miss my friend, now she has moved I dont have anyone else. And although we stay in touch sporadically it just is not the same as seeing someone regularly.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
26 Mar 08
It's true, gemini, that we grow to depend on our friends much more than we would like to think. I hope that I won't lose my friend, but the situation was eating me up inside because this man has changed her so much -and not for the better.