Prs. Bush Was Right!
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
March 27, 2008 2:42pm CST
A few years ago, Prs. Bush started a discussion about what needs to be done to save Social Security and Medicare.
Congress scoffed, scolded and generally acted like the infantile whelps they are. Not only wouldn't they discuss what to do about the problem, they refused to acknowledge any problem at all.
Wow, what a difference a few years make. Even the best estimates say that Social Security and Medicare will only last another decade or so.
Hmmmm, I wonder if Congress will start scoffing again if McCain wins the White House.
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6 responses
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
27 Mar 08
ParaTed2k,
Of course they will! Liberals are like the child who has reached that "terrible twos" stage of his/her life. You know the stage I mean, right? This is where they get belligerent and scream and cry to get their way and will not do ANYTHING unless it is their idea!
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Mar 08
Exactly! If they ever presented an original thought, it might cause an aneurism.
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@HawaiiGopher (1009)
• Belgium
27 Mar 08
Oh wow, conservatives certainly go far when it comes to insults, don't they? ;)
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
27 Mar 08
HawaiiGopher,
Really, I think I went kind of light on them!
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
27 Mar 08
While Bush did offer some ideas, looming Social Security issues had been mentioned several times.
We have to get a handle on it and soon, but Congress has repeatedly failed to act, although they have been helping themselves to the trust fund regularly over the years in order to finance their spending sprees.
Yes, the democrats denigrated Bush's ideas, yet he was right in his assessment.
SSA is nothing more than a legalized ponzi scheme and that is all that it has ever been.
We have got to find a viable alternative and privatization and personal retirement accounts with the gradual elimination of SSA is the only real choice there is.
Congress has got to act on this, and their continued failure to do so is going to hurt a lot of people for many years to come. They should have been working on this from thew very beginning.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Mar 08
Well, a good start would be returning it to a "retirement" account. They have attached so many benefits to the SS system that there is no way to keep up with them anymore.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
27 Mar 08
Yes President Bush was right about Social Security, and Medicare. Hillary, and Obama was and are still wrong. We must privatize both, or just let them destroy themselves. Soonor or later Social Security, and Medicare will be paying out more than they will be bringing in. Maybe since we as Conservatives should be against government program, we should just let Social Security, and Medicare kill itself. I doubt that the Democrats will let McCain get the credit for saving their programs for them.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Mar 08
Exactly! It has nothing to do with the details of the plan, it was WHO presented it.
As long as they have someone to blame, they couldn't care less about saving anything.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
27 Mar 08
They probably will. Most of the cuts that have caused the problems with Social Security and Medicare were started under the Clinton administration. They just didn't take affect until after he was out of office. Very convenient if you ask me. That way it looks like others are to blame.
They didn't want to acknowledge the problems or how to fix them and now they want to point fingers. The president can only do so much. Since they didn't like what he proposed they could have come up with their own plan and set it in motion. They didn't. They decided to ignore it until it came up and bit them in the butt. Very typical of them from what I've seen lately. Hopefully though the voters will realize this and start voting in new people. Maybe if they realize they won't be keeping their cushy jobs unless they actually do something they will get off their butts and attempt to do something.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
27 Mar 08
Great post Emeraldisle! The most amazing thing is that most Slick Willie supporters think he was the best economy president we ever had! Bull**it! He built a "phantom" surplus that fell apart AFTER he left office when all of the things he did to create it either lapsed or became law!
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
28 Mar 08
Thank you :) I just had to defend my position in another discussion where the poster laughed at me for not thinking the way they do about Bush. Oh well to each their own right? One thing you have to love about this country everyone can have their own opinion even if we don't agree with it.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Mar 08
Well, the Social Security fund has taken a lot of hits since it was established, but you're right Clinton seemed to think it was his personal reserve account.
I laugh every time I hear anyone talk about his "Balanced Budget". I could balance a budget too if I could leave billions in expenses out of it in "unbudgeted expenses" and pass another few billion off to states to pay for.
Even after all that, his "balanced budget" was never at 0 deficit either. It was a typical Clinton "I said it was balanced, so it was balanced"
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
28 Mar 08
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1451538.aspx
I win.
Okay okay I'll add something else.
But what can I add since I added that discussion link.
How about, why didn't the politicians do anything about it? It is like an "asteroid" scenario. The situation has been like this for years. Everyone decided to ignore it, and now that you can see it faintly in the sky (its pretty damn close) now its time to do something.
I think there will be more scoffing, more delays and as always no progress. I wouldn't be surprised since both parties seem to play more on political interests than the interests of the country (plenty of examples too where we've had to sit and groan -_-)
Add in the economic downturns, the destabilization of some crucial markets (crops, oil, energy, workforces, monetary)...then things look even more grim.
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@huppsterdave5125 (279)
• United States
27 Mar 08
Yeah Bush may have been right that we had and currently have a problem with social security, but the queation is was his plan to fix the problem competent. Nothing Bush has done in office demonstrates his ability to actually run a country. Congress may have not acted because the plan they were presented with by President Bush was horrible. Maybe if a good plan had been presented to them they may have acted.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Mar 08
Yawn!
What you are saying here is that Congress is nothing more than a gaggle of people waiting around for the Executive Branch to hand them something to do.
Your point would make sense if Congress's response was merely a rejection of the plan presented, then drawing up a plan of their own.
But what did they do? They scoffed at the whole idea that Social Security was in trouble at all.
Please quit making excuses for Congress, just because it's more fun to hop on the Bash Bush Bus.
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