Can doctors do this?

@dizzblnd (3073)
United States
April 9, 2008 8:35am CST
I received a letter from my primary care doctor stating they will no longer provide me with medical care. When I called and asked why, they said it was due to "non-compliance" At the end of last year, I had a CT Scan done on my stomach. The Dr thought it might be appendicitis. The results cam back that I had swollen glands in my stomach. After the antibiotics were gone, I felt better. I did not go back for a follow-up. I have not had those same symtoms since. I have been back to the Dr for other reasons. I got the bill for the Ct Scan $1000. They want me to go back for another one??? I don't have the money for that, nor can I keep taking time off work to go back for follow ups, nor do I have the money for the co-pay for the follow ups. SO I am refused medical care. Now I DO understand they have to protect themselves against malpratice suits... but I would have a leg to stand on even if I was dumb enough to try to sue for malpractice if something came up later as a result of my "non-compliance" Is this fair to the patient? Has this happened to you? Is there anything I can do? If I go to a different Dr. I am going to be branded "non-compliant" will they see me?? ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH
12 responses
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
9 Apr 08
I would think that was you signed the initial paperwork with the doctor, there was something in that regarding being dropped as a patient. I really think they covered there own butts because you didn’t follow up after the fact. Since you are on record as not following up and non-compliant, then that would hurt your legal case if you tried to sue. They told you to follow up and you didn't. They can not make you follow up. They didn't mess up so you can't sue anyway. Since other doctors don’t have access to your files unless you give them the rights, how would they even know that this doctor marked you “non-compliant”.
@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
9 Apr 08
I will have to go to another doctor, and records will have to be transferred. I will have to check the fine print on the patient agreement I just think it wrong.. I do understand to an extent tho
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
9 Apr 08
Just make sure that you get the records from the Doctor and bring them to the new doctor. That way if they put that letter in there you can take it out.
@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
10 Apr 08
good idea sedel.. thank you.
@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
28 Jun 08
The world is changing. Verizon has dropped customers because they were a problem and I am sure other businesses do the same. Maybe the doctor was getting too busy and needed to release some clients. There is a person who would ask for an estimates to do work. One time the estimate was $175. The actual bill was $168.32 He complained. But he never complained to me. He always complained to my girlfriend. So guess what? If he was going to create problems then he was going to pay more to compensate for his negative attitude. I raised the price of his weekly maintenance $15. That was too much and he tried to complain. I told him "This is not a debate nor a negotiation. You don't go into Wal-mart and say I'll pay 59 cents for this 20oz bottle of soda. That was the price." He got someone else out of spite. Now for the sake of spite he pays a friend of mine more money than he would have paid me with the additional $15. It tickles me to see him in his flower bed pulling weeds because the new guy is too expensive. He should have kept his mouth shut. Every one of my clients pays more now because of the gas. Most offered to pay more. By not working for this complainer I have had more time to do other things. I have made more money because he is no longer a client and don't have to listen to my girlfriend complain about him. I released another client on Thursday. This woman called me to mow her lawn which I do not want to do. She said her son was supposed to do it but didn't do it very often. I checked it out and accepted the job because I felt sorry for her. When we get there her son had an attitude because his mother was paying us. I thought to myself if you mowed the lawn I wouldn't be here. I got rid of her because one of these days I am going to choke a turd out of her son. He isn't paying me. Therefore he has no right to speak to me. She should have told him to keep his mouth shut and not tell me to ignore him. I didn't want to end up in jail for disciplining a 40 year old man who should be taking care of his mother and not being a problem. If you want my opinion he should have been thanking me. Not creating problems. So sometimes it is necessary. But I think your doctor wants followers. People to take what he gives and obeys his every word. Most doctors become doctors for the money and not to help people.
@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Maybe you will get better care if you wear a sheep costume to your visits. LOL
@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Most doctors become doctors for the money and not to help people. I agree with you there. I don't blame you for dropping some of your clients.
@tessah (6617)
• United States
10 Apr 08
i do beleive that part of that whole hypocritical oath, there is something about not being allowed to refuse medical treatment to ANYONE. so yeah, im with everyone else here, and id contact the medical board and file a report/complaint.
@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
10 Apr 08
I just might do this. I know a couple of nurses, I am awaiting their opinion. I bet this varies by state
@tessah (6617)
• United States
10 Apr 08
keep the lot updated.. im sure im not the only one that would like to know how this turns out, and good luck
@whiteheron (4222)
• United States
29 Jun 08
It seems to me that your MD is covering his tail with you due to liability issues... Non compliance is a reasonable reason for termination.... I would though hope that he referred you back to your insurance company for referrals for further care, and that he offered to fill any of your medications until you can find another physician, and that he cooperates when you request your medical records. I would believe that these would be important things for an MD to do to insure a smooth and appropriate transition.... I will though say that from the MD's perspective you dropped out of treatment and after that letter you were no longer his responsibilty.
@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
29 Jun 08
He did do all of that. I didn't so much drop out of treatment.. I just didn't have the $$ to pay the co-pays for every "follow -up" visit, nor did I have the time to keep taking off of work. I do understand what he did... it just frustrates me
• United States
25 Jun 08
Yes..if you do not comply with your MD's orders, then you may be terminated from his/her care. They cannot legally treat you further, as it could lead to litigation. And with the price they pay for malpractice insurance, I agree! You did not follow this doctor's advise. If I were the MD, I would also have to terminate your care. It is OK to get a second opinion. Find a MD you like and comply. You also have the right to NOT comply, but it will come with consequences, OK? sounds like you did not trust this doctor. Find one you can and it'll be great! (A better match.)-Find an MD that respects your intuition better and is more relaxed. There are plenty around.
@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Oh I understand the fear of being sued.. but I wouldn't stand a chance in court... It is just frustrating because I can't just take time off of work anytime I need to to go to appt after appt Oh well
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I have never heard of this before but I have been asked not to come back to a doctor's office before My ex-husband's wife would go along on the visits and argue with the doctor and make everything miserable. When I went in for a check up the doctor asked me to move the children out because she couldn't stand the ex's wife. So I just went to court and got an order to keep her out of the doctor's offices and now everything is fine. Hope you are able to find a better doctor.
@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
29 Jun 08
It doesn't make any sense to argue with the DR's It is a good thing she was banned
@mbs730 (2147)
• Canada
10 Apr 08
I am sorry you are dealing with this and I am glad you are okay. I am not sure what I can suggest since I am in Canada and the health care is different here but also pretty crappy! I was also dumped by a doctor a few years ago because she kept me waiting and waiting.. NOT because she was seeing another patient (that I would have understood) but she was MINGLING with the postal man! I was in a rush, and was waiting and waiting and waiting so I ended up cussing.. which may have been wrong but I didn't scream. I just said it a few times in the room while I was waiting. So then a few days later I got a lovely letter in the mail from her, she was dumping me and told me to find another doctor because I swore in her room!!
@mememama (3076)
• United States
9 Apr 08
Yes, they can do this. Some parents pediatricians "fire" them because they don't follow a vaccination schedule-so I believe they could do this in your case. I got dropped from a doctor for not paying a bill-problem is that I didn't even live in that state at the time so it would be impossible and stupid to drive for 12 hours to see him! I laughed when I got the bill and the nasty letter saying he would no longer be my doctor.
@calcynic (433)
• United States
10 Apr 08
I don't know what state you live in, as the laws governing and regulating the medical business differ from state to state. I tend to think that they have done this on numerous occasions....because they can. I really think you should try to get some kind of legal advice or search around on-line for the laws of your state. This damned health care crisis is out of control. It's gonna end up with only a privileged few that are gonna be able to get care that's worth a crap. Technically, I would bet that blackballing you would be illegal and maybe even actionable in the event you wanted to sue. It would also be very difficult to prove. Find somebody that knows the game. It's too important to blow off. Be well.
@Guardian208 (1095)
• United States
9 Apr 08
I had a similar problem with my doctor years ago. They dropped me saying that I was "uncooperative". When I called the office to find out what in the world that meant, I was told that I was rude to the office staff and that it was in everyone's best interest if I found another doctor. WHAT! I had never even said more than a few words to his staff. My wife and I racked our brains trying to figure out what they were talking about. The only thing we could figure was that one time the doctor was going to prepare a referral and leave it at the front counter for me to pick up. Their office hours were until 5:30. I showed up around 5:00 and my referral was taped to their closed and locked door. The next day I called them to tell them that I didn't like my personal information available to whomever walked by their door and that in the future if that happened to call me and we can make other arrangements. There was never any hostility or frustration. Just simple communication. I found out later that the office manager was his wife. I guess she didn't like me telling her how to do things. But we decided it was probably for the best since we would not want our health in the hands of those type of people anyway. Good luck!
@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
9 Apr 08
That's ridiculous. Maybe they had you confused for someone else.. Oh well it's probably better that way. Thanks for the insight. :)
• United States
10 Apr 08
Actually it is quite legal. Just as you can "fire" your doctor (quit going to him) he can fire you as a patient and really doesn't have to give a reason why. It sucks but anyone can fire you from being a patient/customer. You could probably talk to a lawyer or whatever maybe you can get somewhere although I doubt it but find one that will give a free consulation. Never hurts to try, right?
@somiran (189)
• India
24 Apr 08
look i am a doctor from india. first i tell you doctors have full freedom to choose their patient but of course they have to explain why will not he accept you as patient. the problem with you is that in your country medical care is very expensive and the doctors are always in a fear consumer protection act and that must have cause you the trouble. but i tell you the doctor who have rejected you have the right to do that because he ha ethically explained you the reason why he is doing so. Now i tell you can not win against that doctor at least legally. but you can request him from the view of humanism.your doctor is in a fear of CPA nothing else thanks Dr. Somiran
@dizzblnd (3073)
• United States
24 Apr 08
Thank you for that explanation. I DO understand.. but it irks me that because I don't have the time to keep taking from work, the money to pay for all this that he did this... oh well Welcome to mylot.. I hope you find your time enjoyable here