Has anyone ever accused you of being racist?
@desertdarlene (8910)
United States
April 12, 2008 6:26pm CST
One of the libraries I work at strictly enforces the policy against the use of cell phones. One lady, apparently, was upset that I told her that she couldn't use her cell phone and said it was because she was "of color". Well, I told 4 other people, all white, not to use their cell phones that day and one of them was a regular patron/friend. Apparently she didn't see that.
So, has anyone else been accused of racism because they tried to enforce the rules in their place of business?
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
13 Apr 08
Of course! People will try to get by with whatever they can get by with and they will use any trick that might help them win. If pushing that button doesn't get a rise out of you, maybe that lady will try something else next time. It was a cheap shot, but it probably has worked for her in the past because many people crumble under the weight of such an accusation even when it is completely unwarranted. But think what a disservice we are doing to people of color if we let them get by with that. Caving in is like being a codependent and encouraging bad behavior selectively.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
13 Apr 08
Yeah, I didn't really feel upset, or at least not as upset and she was. She was also mad that we didn't tell the kids to be quiet, either. But, kids don't know any better, adults do. And, the kids weren't white, either, so I don't know where she was going with that.
I've actually been working with the problem long enough to know that people get all upset over nothing and I shouldn't worry about it. But, it doesn't stop me from having an emotion over it. Right now, though, things are changing at work and I am seriously thinking of taking my career into a new direction, but in a closely related field.
@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
19 Apr 08
She apparently came back on Tuesday and acted like nothing happened. I also heard that she raised a big deal about having to sign up to sit at a certain desk, which is a requirement for anyone who wanted to use those desks. She also called the other woman a racist, too. The other woman and I get confused for each other often because we look so similar. Her ancestry is Irish and mine is Scottish-English, so we share a lot of common physical features.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
27 Apr 08
Color or race should never even come into play when people are disputing something. There are many other common ways people can be tagged, grouped, or divided and it is much better to focus on THOSE things.
Also, some people are extremely proud of their heritage and it means something to them, likewise there are people on the opposite end of the spectrum to whom it means nothing. It is not fair to assume one or the other and thus make assumptions about the person based on it.
@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
13 Apr 08
I have been accused of being a racist. I was having some trouble with some people of another nationality and I told them that our government is not like theirs and if they wanted to get away with what they were doing, they needed to go back to their own country.
They considered me racist for saying that. What I was trying to make clear to them was that just because they could do such and such where they were from, the government of the United States was not going to allow it. These people were my caretakers and they were ignoring my rights.
I tried to explain to them that my government was paying for me to be there and that it was not going to pay all of that money for me being under their care, without regulating how I was being treated. They thought I was just talking out the side of my neck and they challenged me and they are now out of business. When I told the government with they were doing, they were shut down.
But I do not consider myself to be racist. I was not raise that way. Nationalities were never even mentioned in my home. We were taught that if you wanted to see God, you had to love every body. And that is all I know today. But I am also known for speaking up for myself. I do not care who it is or what color they are.
I look at it like this, if you are just doing your job and somebody plays the race card, then that is their ignorance and not yours. I do not just assume that it is a racist situation a any given time. Instead of assuming, she should have asked and I am sure that you would have been more than happy to tell her the rules. I know it bothered you a lot, because that is a nasty thing to accuse some body of being. But you know in your heart who you really are, so I would not let it get to me.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
13 Apr 08
Yeah, I didn't take it too personally, except that I worry a lot about my job because government workers are often treated with suspicion by some people. But, I think everyone who has worked with the public in the city has been accused of being racist at least once.
What's more worrying to me is that this woman says she frequents the other branches that I work at and will wonder why I don't catch everyone at these other branches. I don't want her to give me a hard time everywhere I work. A lot of the time, I leave it up to the person in charge whether or not they want to enforce the rules, or I'm just so swamped that I don't notice everyone.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
13 Apr 08
I actually sent an e-mail to the two supervisors and the two branches that I normally work at that she said that she goes to. One is on vacation right now and the other didn't seem to think it was any big deal.
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@Rozie37 (15499)
• Turkmenistan
13 Apr 08
Maybe you can speak to your supervisor about it. My sister has worked at a library for over 20 years and I know they try everything in the book with her, because she is so nice and soft spoken. But when you work for an employer for any length of time, they know your character and what you will and wont do. Besides, with someone like this, I would just feel more comfortable running it by someone in charge. It sounds like she may be planning to be a problem in the future.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
15 May 08
I have a friend who used to work in the Military and on one base they worked in long narrow buildings with one long hall and offices on either side. There was a young lady who was well developed and like to wear tight low cut tops and then complained that the men were starring at her and she filed a s harrasment complaint. When the men saw her coming they ducked into an office to avoid her, a harrasment complaint on their record could be a career ender. Next she filed a complaint because the men were avoiding her. Some people you can never please.
The woman you talked about is someone who has learned that if you accuse some one of being racist you can do what ever you want and people will be afraid to correct you.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
15 May 08
Yeah, that's the way I feel about it, too. She might think that we're more sensitive, too, because I work for the government. I was told to pretend it never happened.
@dierdre (2207)
• Philippines
23 Apr 08
nope havent experienced that yet, and hopefully never will. maybe that girl didnt see that you also told the same thing to 4 other people, maybe shes just being too paranoid/sensitive or she's just using that "racism" issue as an excuse to still use her cellphone while inside the library! hoping that by accusing you of that, you will be more lax to her, hehe.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
24 Apr 08
Yeah, something tells me that she has used this reaction before to some kind of success. But, some people have come from other parts of the country where racism is blatant and open. It's possible that she feels it's the same everywhere she goes.
@gratitude (181)
• South Africa
13 Apr 08
lol...COME TO SOUTH AFRICA!
I cannot count the number of times I have had statements thrown back at me ...'You're racist" or "Are you saying that because I am Black".
Aparheid was abolished nearly 15 years ago here, Thank the lord! But blacks here seem to like to live in the past, even if they werent born yet in a certain period when there was great conflict..these youngsters feel it is their right to 'pay back' for unfairness bestowed upon their race those many years ago. So much for moving forward!
@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
13 Apr 08
Hi there Gratitude! I actually would love to visit South Africa (and I'm serious and not trying to be sarcastic). But, I can definitely see that happening there.
@gratitude (181)
• South Africa
17 Apr 08
South Africa is a baeutiful country and its variety of cultures are fasinating too...Dont get me wrong...not all blacks are this way. I have many a black friend. Their cultures - their way of life is very interesting to see and learn about - although in my opinion so ancient yet most of them live a modernize lifestyle nowdays!!, but all the same it is great to go on tours to see their traditions and way of life too. Our wildlife is wonderful too. I promise you we dont all live shacks and neither do we have wild animals running around us lol
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@Gohanfreak97 (22)
• United States
28 Apr 08
I have been accused of racism before. It wasn't anything and i'm african american myself and am not racist to ANY RACE. I believe everyone is equal. Well.. I was working at target(first job) and was fixing up the milks. Then a lady(mexican) said "are you following me because i'm latino?" . I wasnt really called a racist, but she implied it.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
28 Apr 08
Ugh, that's terrible! I mean, what possess people to think that way about someone they don't know?
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
13 Apr 08
My husband said it because I did not like him watching movies because the hero happened to be Black. It was a thing with him. Even if the movie was crappy and Will Smith or Denzal Washington was the hero or the main character who never got killed was Black like in The Matrix series, he watched it. I pointed out that three were some despicable black characters and if the bad guy was white, why do they not point out his unloving parents, his abusive uncle, his growing up in a poor neighborhood. Instead the black guy got bad because of horrid circumstances, while the white guy was born that way,.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
13 Apr 08
Thanks for responding and glad to see you.
Yeah, I saw that other discussion you started a while back. But, it's funny, other people might see it the other way with the white guys never getting killed, etc.
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
16 Apr 08
LOL I have been called a racist right here on MyLot...it really bothered me at first but then I just realized that they don't really know me and moved on.
Sometimes ppl will use it as an excuse to try to get out of the rules...and not necessarily just ppl "of color", I've seen handicapped ppl, forgein ppl, elderly, you name it.
I wouldn't pay it any attention and just keep doing your job :)
**AT PEACE WITHIN**
~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
16 Apr 08
Yeah. I hate it when people use things like you mentioned as an excuse not to follow the rules. It makes other people with those same conditions look really bad.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
13 Apr 08
I worked as a page in our local library and I do not know how many times I was told to ask a patron not to use her cell phone as it is prohibited in our library. and yes they would reallygive me a bad time. One hispanic woman said I was a bad word racist pig and I told her she was only one of six people who were breaking the rules and I had told all of them the samething. My branch manager overheard her and she gave the patron a bit of lip about it but then the boss can get away with stuff where the rest of us could not.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
13 Apr 08
My boss is married to an African-American man, so if she called her a racist, then she definitely would be whacko.
I generally don't pay attention to what race anyone is, I try to be fair and tell everyone. I admit that some branches can't enforce all the rules because they are bigger or busier and it's not a top priority.
@britany_renee (156)
• United States
13 Apr 08
Yes I have encountered this before...as recent as last week. My husband and our kids and I just moved to the city (from way out in the country) this past Feb. We moved into a community that is very racially mixed. We are white and there are several African Americans as well as Mexican-Americans in our new neighborhood. Well...last week our friend had a kid (probably 12 or 13 years old) throw a phonebook through his living room window! So while my husband was at their apartment (about 10 doors down from us) I was standing on our front porch watching the action. I couldn't go down there cause our kids were in the house sleeping...
To make a long story short, my husband had come back to me to update me and tell me he was going to help our friends clean up the broken glass out of their living room and would be back in a few. He gave me a kiss and started walking back over there.He had gotten about 10 yards from me when we heard someone yell out 'Hey N@#@!' My husband and I didn't think this person was talking to us and so he kept on walking. then this person yelled it a couple more times and my husband turned around. This unknown person said something along the lines of y the f are you ignoring me N? My husband said first of all i didn't think you were talking to me and second of all i'm not going to respond to that kind of language. Then this unknown person came out of the shadows and was yelling at the top of his lungs at my hubby (it was like 11 at night) and I thought he was gonna charge him. I called to my husband that I was going to call the cops. This unknown said go ahead and call the f ing cops. he was the one that called me a N. I was dumbfounded. My hubby doesn't talk like that.I have a cousin who is half black who brings is "full black" for lack of better terms to our family dinners. We are not racist ppl by any means. Then he started charging towards my hubby so, having my cell phone in hand, called the cops. I was talking pretty loud to the dispatcher cause the "unknown" guy was still screaming at us. He ended up taking off somewhere before the cops got here. But it was just rediculus! I've never encountered anything like that in my life!
I know about slavery, and I agree it was a horrible thing! But that didn't have anything to do with me, or my parents, or my grandparents, or my great-grandparents. I do believe racisim does still exist in this country but it absolutely drives me insane when people use it as an excuse to act like a crazy person! (like the incident i told you about) I don't care if you are black, white, or pink with purple polka dots...if you treat me with respect i will treat you with respect
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
13 Apr 08
Wow, that's quite a story! I'm glad you were alright.
With regards to your last paragraph, my family once lived in Ontario, Canada and there are stories about our family helping ex-slaves on the underground railroad. I don't know if they're true, but it's plausible because they were living in that area at that time and had a lot of land that they could hide people on. So, I know my ancestors weren't involved with slavery and were definitely against it.
@HelpSouthAfrica (1)
• South Africa
15 Apr 08
Hi. I am from South Africa and am a 5th generation born and bred, white african male. I am 35 years old.
In South Africa, the race card gets played from every angle. Even if someone black tries to mug you and you push him onto the ground, passerbys will attack you and call you a racist.
You cant do or say anything and you are labeled a racist, you cant complain about govt, poor service or make any suggestions or criticisms and you are called a racist.
I think that this whole race issue needs to get dropped, as its now being abused and is standing in the way of true reconciliation.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
15 Apr 08
Thank you so much for responding. I haven't been to South Africa, so I can't really compare how it is here compared to there. But, in the United States, what you are describing is very common. And, I think it's beginning to wear thin over here.
I don't want to discount that there really are people in certain parts of our country that are still blatantly discriminated against in horrible ways. It's often seen in our news broadcasts. But, to have such a "knee jerk" reaction to everyone who is "not of color" bothers me. I don't know if people who do this realize it is hurtful to someone like me who believes in civil rights.
@maxienline (2)
• Mexico
13 Apr 08
Weel, You has been the correct; the rules are clare and She couldn´t said that you´re racist. However, she not see that other people also were told for the same. Don´t worry for this incident, you have be the reason.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
13 Apr 08
Thanks. I also have to admit that sometimes I might miss a person or two because enforcing the cell phone rules is not a top priority over helping other people when it's busy.
@sunkistroses401 (281)
• United States
13 Apr 08
well not because of trying to enforce rules in my place of business but i have been accused of being racist by my boyfriend's cousin because i was born and raised in kentucky. obviously she knows nothing about me i have only seen her a few time since i moved in with my boyfriend one in which i broke my ankle. but anyways i resent being called racist as i am not and i care about a lot of people from a lot of different ethnicities.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
13 Apr 08
Yeah, that's pretty sad when she doesn't even know you and just assumes that when you haven't done anything except being born in that state.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
27 Apr 08
I have been accused of making preferences, but not flat out racism. I am very much into a rule applying to everybody, I even raise a stink about double standards as they are sometimes applied to boys vs girls and gender roles.
I probably would have told the lady that her being 'of color' had absolutely nothing to do with anything, and I would have wondered why she even mentioned it in the first place. It is very disgusting to me to see people victimizing themselves based on their gender, race, or social position. There is never a need to use those things to justify not getting ahead, being refused service, or refusal to follow rules which apply to EVERYONE etc.
@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
28 Apr 08
I'm from California, also, but strangely I didn't experience as much blatant, violent racism towards me as I did when I was in Detroit growing up. I mean, there were a few kids that had some problems, but I've never felt threatened here before. But, I found out that a few people thought I was Native American because of my high cheekbones and the fact that I was always very tan. I found out, later, that I may have an Native American ancestor, though I'm not sure. I don't know if that was the reason why I was mostly left alone in that regard.
@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
27 Apr 08
Thanks for answering. I didn't see the point in arguing with her about that because people that I know who do that say that all of us "white" people are racist anyway or something similar. I think that it was a knee-jerk reaction that got her some kind of benefit in the past.
The sad thing is that there really are victims of racism out there and when people like this lady spit it out at every turn, it really hurts the real victims.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
27 Apr 08
Well, my (step)kids are white and my daughter is half white and I hate to say that my older kids have experienced threats and degrading for being white. We live in CA and there are lots and lots of hispanics here. This really shouldn't make a difference but it has. I had not experienced this before, feeling like a 'minority' for want of a better description.
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@jesbellaine (4139)
• Philippines
13 Apr 08
No, never. I have never experienced that before and hopefully, I won't have to experience of doing that. :)
@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
13 Apr 08
I think it's common when you work for the government. Some people try to start lawsuits because they think they can make money that way.
@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
2 May 08
So, you're basically saying that people don't feel like they are being discriminated against for any reason? What about social class or religion? No one would ever accuse anyone, ever, of being treated wrong because of that, either? That must be a fantastic country and must be like heaven.