How much of the Bible is true?
By rebecca1957
@rebecca1957 (265)
United States
April 22, 2008 9:29am CST
In Deutronomy it states 'do not add to or take away from any of my words'. That's God speaking during the giving of the ten commandments together with all the other laws given to Moses. That tells me that maybe the whole New Testament has been added. Any thoughts?
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@WhatsHerName (2716)
• United States
29 Apr 08
I can't say it any better than this.
In summary, the Old Testament lays the foundation for, and was meant to prepare the Israelites for, the coming of the Messiah who would sacrifice Himself for their sins (and for the sins of the world as well). The New Testament shares the life of Jesus Christ and then looks back on what He did and how we are to respond to His gift of eternal life and live our lives in gratitude for all He has done for us (Romans 12). Both testaments reveal the same holy, merciful, and righteous God who must condemn sin but who desires to bring to Himself a fallen human race of sinners through the forgiveness only possible through Christ's atoning sacrifice as payment for sin. In both testaments God reveals Himself to us and how we are to come to Him through Jesus Christ. And in both testaments we find all we need for eternal life and godly living (2 Timothy 3:15-17).
http://www.gotquestions.org/difference-old-new-testaments.html
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@Marie37 (63)
• United States
30 Apr 08
Morality is for those who are mortal. God is not mortal and therefore not subjected to the same laws of "morality" that humans are.
If you create something, then it stands to reason that you can do whatever you like with it. If I make a pot from clay, would it be immoral of me to use that pot to store water or to hold urine? And does the pot get to have any say in the matter? And if I decided to destroy that pot, is it not my prerogative as well? Should I ask the pots permission?
You can call God immoral all you want, but since you aren't the creator and you aren't in charge, you aren't in a position to accuse Him of anything now are you?
@rhykos7 (74)
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30 Apr 08
i dont think you can really compare making a pot to making life.
if he made us in his won image, and refers to us as his children, then he surely has an emotional attachment to us.
my point of him being immoral is not only that he is murderous but treats people differently.
you have obviously thought quite hard to try and justify his actions to yourself, but if we are all but pots of clay to him then he clearly does not love us, which again brings me back to the point of him being a loving god.
@RazPenny (26)
• United States
3 May 08
*bangs head repeatedly*
IT DOES NOT SAY 'THOU SHALT NOT KILL'!!
The word used best translates roughly to murder. It would be rather hard for any human to take someone seriously who said not to kill and then orders you to kill now wouldn't it?
Seriously Rhykos, if you are going to take issue with the Torah at least know enough of what you are talking about here to not sound as if you just got out of a 3rd Sunday School class.
@richardmoses (9)
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22 Apr 08
All the scripture is good and is true.From genesis to revelation is true without a speck or an iota of error in it.The Bible stated clearly that +HOLY MEN OF GOD WERE MOVED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO WRITE DOWN THE SCRIPTURE+ what about that? Moreover the book of Rvelation also talked abt not adding nor taking away any part of the bible,it is not only deutoronomy.To me,Deut.and Revelation rather authenticated the infallibility of the Bible.
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@GigglesGrobanite (96)
• United States
22 Apr 08
i believe also that the entire Bible was inspired by God who used human writers to record His words. in the context of the scripture in Deut, when God was stating not to add or take away from the word that He commanded, he was referring to the laws including the 10 commandments (over 600 individual laws). in Rev when he says if anyone adds or takes away from these things, it was referring to the entire words of the Bible.
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@Springlady (3986)
• United States
30 Apr 08
Hi rebecca,
Every word of the Bible is true..from cover to cover. It is the living and breathing Word of God.
The New Testament tells of Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God. God became a man, Jesus Christ, to suffer and die in our place to save us from our sins.
I have found that the more I read His Word, the more I am understanding it. I pray that God speaks to me thru His Word and He does.
God is perfect and so is His Word, the Holy Bible.
God bless!
@Springlady (3986)
• United States
1 May 08
I base that on fact. The fact that God is totally perfect. I believe what His Word says and God has proven Himself over and over again in my life and in many other lives as well.
I read the Bible everyday. I know God speaks to me thru His Word. I'm finding myself knowing my Heavenly Father more and more as I study His Word.
His Holy Word is without flaw. Without error. It is God-breathed. It has been here for over 2,000 years. Many have tried to destroy His Word and have failed every single time. It has been ripped up, burned...and it is still here, changing more and more lives and bringing more people to Christ.
I am a child of the living God. I am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. I have received the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior and I put my trust in Him.
God bless you.
@rhykos7 (74)
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4 May 08
you base it on fact??????????????
your idea of a fact is very deluded, i am sorry if i have turned slightly offensive, but if you are not going to give an intelligent input, why bother at all.
you are a fundamentalist and i have no time for that state of mind.
maybe you are a nice person, i don't know, but your view of the world is far warped away from reality.
@GigglesGrobanite (96)
• United States
22 Apr 08
according to 2 Timothy 3:15 (which is in the new testament) its say "All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness. so if you believe in the Bible in its entirety like i do, then that says to me that ALL of the Bible is accurate and true.
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@rebecca1957 (265)
• United States
22 Apr 08
When 2 Timothy was written the rest of the New Testament was not in a compiled form. In fact, all of these letters were written to either a group of people or an individual. When they wrote of 'all scripture' they were referring to the original bible. All of the New Testament came from writings.
@rhykos7 (74)
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27 Apr 08
if you think the old testament is true then you worship a very very evil, selfish, megalomaniac woman hating and totally immoral god!
it's one or the other-the old testament is the truth and your god is not very loveable, or the content of the old testament is not the truth- how can you have it both ways!
the newer testament is much more believable and i don't deny that is based on true events-however i don't believe to be an accurate betrayal of what really took place.
@WhatsHerName (2716)
• United States
29 Apr 08
"When one really begins to read and study the Bible, it becomes clear that God is not any different from the Old Testament to the New Testament. Even though the Bible is really sixty-six individual books, written on two (or possibly three) continents, in three different languages, over a period of approximately 1500 years, by more that 40 authors (who came from many walks of life), it remains one unified book from beginning to end without contradiction. In it we see how a loving, merciful, and just God deals with sinful men in all kinds of situations. Truly, the Bible is God’s love letter to mankind. God’s love for His creation, especially for mankind, is evident all through Scripture. Throughout the Bible we see God lovingly and mercifully calling people into a special relationship with Himself, not because they deserve it but because He is a gracious and merciful God, slow to anger and abundant in loving-kindness and truth. Yet we also see a holy and righteous God Who is the judge of all those who disobey His word and refuse to worship Him, instead turning to worship gods of their own creation, worshiping idols and other gods instead of worshiping the one and only true God (Romans 1)."
http://www.gotquestions.org/God-different.html
Oh and welcome to myLot by the way
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@rhykos7 (74)
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29 Apr 08
whats her name
you have a rather interesting view of the bible, i disagree with you when you say it does not contradict itself, there are many contradictions in the bible, and if you are referring to the various scriptures , i hope you are including the other gospels, which massively contradict what is in the bible. i would certainly not describe the god in the old testament as a loving god, in fact quite the opposite. gracious and merciful beings do not order murder upon entire villages just because they worship another being.
once again i feel compelled to point out, i am not questioning your belief in god, only the concept of what/who god is and the accuracy (and morals) of the bible.
@RazPenny (26)
• United States
30 Apr 08
No,Shaddai never killed anyone for belief. He did kill off Sodom and Gomorrah...but that had nothing to do with who they worshiped. Haughtiness, gluttony, laziness, not helping the poor, and committing abomination (which could be many different things). Shaddai never punished anyone for belief in other deities...only actions which they could control.
Which is the direct contradiction between Shaddai and the Christian god...as Christianity has god punishing for belief.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
30 Apr 08
LOL too bad that didnt work out too well for him eh...seeing how the bible has been added to, taken away from and altered numerous times over the centuries
@keep_onwatch (2680)
• India
4 May 08
Oaky now, if we observe the old testament, we can also find that God just reserves his rules and commandments and love just for the isralites, so if we just have to have those 5 books, then we definetely need to be one of them-jews, if not we dont need to follow it, as its like only limited to jews. But did you go thru the entire old testament?? If you did in isiah, micah and daniel, we can find few prophicies to be fulfilled and the place and time of those prophecies, of some one chosen to come....so it means, it has to be continued, till that chosen would come. And so according to the place and time, the chosen one, Jesus was born. And so we have salvation for all of us, this entire world...not just jews. God had been protecting and keeping clean the tribe of jews, for the birth of that chosen, to be liberated to the entire world....
@terilee79720 (3621)
• United States
25 Apr 08
I think one of the misinterpretations and misunderstandings has been dividing the Bible into the Old and New testaments. While I understand the concepts of Old and New I prefer to refer to the entire Bible as what I believe it is in its entirity; insprired by God. I don't divide the Word by Old and New, eventhough many refer to the division as the Old law versus the New law. I believe it's all the same law, depending on how one interprets it. Each section is referred to by as many different interpretations as there are religions. It has been divided by those same religions, who have interpreted its value as old or new, while, in fact, if one studies it thoroughly, the continuity and continuation can easily be seen and understood. If we could stop seeing it and referring to it as the Old and New,,,,and just see it all as the Word of God, we might come to a better understanding of it.
@lancingboy (1385)
• United States
22 Apr 08
Many scholars read through the texts and put stuff into the margin of the documents. Later scholars go back and add the stuff in the margin into the scripture because they thought it was suppose to be there, but it was only reflecting what the scholars thought the texts mean and it is their interpretation.
@rebecca1957 (265)
• United States
25 Apr 08
I've been doing a lot of research into this ever since the Davinci Code came out. I read the Holy Blood, Holy Grail, then I researched Council of Nicea and the Emperor Constantine during the 3rd century. Look at the website Christianity Revealed, which as a lot of information there as well. Thanks...
@rebecca1957 (265)
• United States
24 Apr 08
However, it was first stated in the Old Testament. The New Testament were all letters decided on by the Council of Nicea. A lot of those bishops were corrupt. A lot of scrolls were tossed, destroyed. The earliest manuscripts were not even from the 1st century, which leaves a lot of speculation on how accurate they were. There was a gospel of Mary that has recently been resurrected, plus a few others. Seems odd to me.
@cbreeze (1205)
• United States
25 Apr 08
I have read the Bible and I continue to read and study the Bible and apply its principles to my daily life. However, I think that this statement was strategically added by the powers of the early church as a means of control over common man. Considering all the different revisions and translations and versions that exist of the Bible, the fact that the books of the Bible were decided on at the Council of Nicaea by the early Christian/Catholic church to establish the official position of the Church. This was also for political purposes since Emperor Constantine had made Christianity the official state religion.
@RazPenny (26)
• United States
26 Apr 08
Actually, if you are speaking of 12:32, it says this...
All this word which I command you, that shall ye observe to do; thou shalt not add therto, nor diminish from it...JPS version
That is not saying extra books should not be added...it is stating that the commandments which are given should not be added to nor taken away from. The example which comes to mind of this happening is in Genesis between Adam and Eve. Shaddai tells Adam not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and bad or you will die. When Chava, Eve, recounts this to the serpent she tells him that G-d commanded "not to eat from the tree or touch it." She is deceived because Adam added in an extra command which was given to him.