Would You Let Them Die?
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
April 30, 2008 7:12pm CST
In another thread I wrote about the case in Wisconsin where couple prayed while their daughter died. Almost all of the comments were based on the commenters' religious beliefs (or lack of).
That got me wondering about how people might answer one basic question...
If you were convinced that using technology to save your child's life would commit him/her to hell, would you choose heaven now or hell later?
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13 responses
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
1 May 08
It would take a really twisted individual to tell their followers that technology to save lives was evil and would send them or their children to Hell.
I would never believe such a thing in the first place, because it could not be true.
This would be a false religion and the leader a false prophet, so therefore using the technology would have no bearing a person's destination.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 May 08
What I'm asking requires you to look outside your own beliefs, so any answer based on your own beliefs is a "cop out".
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
1 May 08
My answer is not a cop out at all... it is the reality.
What you describe would be the indoctrination of a cult type of religious belief, which is usually ran by a larger than life egomaniac with delusions of grandeur and godhood.
Anyone who would fall for the lame scenario you described would be just the type of individual that gets sucked into these cults.
You asked and I told you... I would not let the false teachings of a false prophet influence my decision to seek medical attention for anyone who needed it regardless of what amount of damnation and hellfire they threatened.
In other words, I would seek the medical attention and be damned to whatever that agent of Satan had to say.
Now, is that good enough for you... or is there some other comment you would like to make?
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@Lambchoper (538)
• United States
1 May 08
I would not let my child die. I couldn't do it no matter what. I'd make a deal with the devil my soul for my child's and I'd kick in my husbands too.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 May 08
So, you would make a deal with the devil to take your soul now, and let your child live, knowing that your child would end up in hell eventually anyway?
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 May 08
But the question posed was not based on the concept of a trade.
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@Lambchoper (538)
• United States
1 May 08
No the deal would be my soul for my child's and if that was not an option I'd expect some help from God. No matter what, I would not sit there and watch my child die. NEVER
If my God allowed my child to go to hell for getting medical help I'd rather live in hell where the bad guy is recognizable. Red with a tail and a scary pitch fork and not some lofty angelic looking creature that would damn a baby to hell for taking a pill.
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
1 May 08
I just don't' understand how healing your child could ever be bad. I would think that if you were religious that you would believe that you would go to hell for killing your child.
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
1 May 08
Even if I believed that it could send me to hell, I would not torture my child.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 May 08
It's a cop out answer because you are changing the question. You took out the "if you truly believed" part so you could tell me what you believe now.
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
1 May 08
Actually the question is simple...I would save my child. Despite everything and anything I would seek whatever medical help they needed to save them. I can't imagine that there would be a situation where my actions would influence another persons final destination but if so...so be it. My child would be a gift from God and therefore I'd do whatever is necessary to protect their life.
Personally, concerning the original post about the parents allowing the child to die...I think the parents were blinded by religion and selfish in their beliefs to allow their child to die rather than save her life. When the saw that religion and prayer weren't helping her they should have put their own beliefs aside and do what was necessary to save her.
**AT PEACE WITHIN**
~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 May 08
So forever in hell is better than a short earth life?
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 May 08
It's not about what you believe right now, it's about what you would do if your beliefs were different.
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
1 May 08
As I said...I would do whatever is necessary to save my child. As I also said...I don't believe that one person's actions have any bearing on another person's final destination. Since God gave them life, only He can take it back and therefore they would be with Him. There's no way my seeking technology or medical help would change that. If that were the case then all these kids that are killed by their parents would all be in Hell b/c their parents committed sins by murdering them.
**AT PEACE WITHIN**
~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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@nova1945 (1612)
• United States
1 May 08
That would be a tough question, except for one thing. If you are convinced, as you say, of this fact then it must be based on your religious belief. I don't know of any religion that would hold a child responsible for his/her parents actions or decisions.
So, I guess I'm saying that I would choose to save the life of my child and face the judgement of that decision myself.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 May 08
You're projecting your current beliefs into the equation. To answer the question you can't to that. You have to go on the idea that the concept is true.
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@edgyk8inmomma (2157)
• United States
1 May 08
I would chose heaven now. I am convinced that this life is only temporary, and the things we endure and trust in while we are on this planet, will surely pass away. I continuously give my children to the Lord for afe keeping. Everytime they walk to the store, or ride their bikes to a friends house, I imagine the worst happening, getting struck by a car or kidnapped. I'm not saying I ask for these things, but I worry about them. I give them into my father's habds for protection and guidance. If it is His will to take them from then I ask for peace and understanding and eventual healing. I am confident that I will be reunited with them someday. I'd rather them be peaceful and hapy, and get to watch over me and their siblings they leave behind. Than live a life of regret knowing I chose their destiny.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 May 08
Very heartfelt answer. Thank you
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
1 May 08
Now I admit I don't know a great deal about their particular faith and who would be blamed if the parents did this. In other words would the parents go to hell for their actions while the child wouldn't or would all three? Also is it just one sin alone that condemns them no matter how much they might do otherwise? That does make a difference.
For myself I would save the child. I could not sit back and watch them die. If everything else done in my life and the child's isn't enough to outweigh that one sin then so be it. I would have to do what I believed was morally right and if my God cannot understand then that is his fault not mine. If I have the power to save a life I would have to do it especially when it's my own child's.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
2 May 08
I should probably rephrase that to mean that I would not doubt God but doubt the teachings of his human ministers. Of course I had the same problems with the Catholic religion when I was taught that anyone who did not follow Jesus was condemned to hell even if they had never heard of Jesus. I didn't doubt God but the teachings of the humans of the religion.
I don't know if you ever read the book "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" but in it he had a moral dilemma. He was taught that to lie was a sin and could condemn him to hell but he also knew in his heart that slavery was wrong. So when asked about a runaway slave he decided to do what was "morally right" and lie and stated he hadn't seen him. He went by his conscious and what it told him to do. I would have to do the same.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 May 08
Hmm, so you would tell God how He should view things, even though He has the big, eternal picture, and you are stuck with only a tiny fragment of it?
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
1 May 08
Anything to save my daughter I would do. Decision on heaven or hell will come after. God knows who he'll bring up there. I would never sacrifice the life of my child for anything in the world not even religion would stop me from saving her.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 May 08
So you would choose temporary mortal life for your child over eternal salvation?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 May 08
Thanks for answering, and for not giving a 'copout" answer.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 May 08
Even if it meant you were just "saving" your child for an eternity in hell?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 May 08
So what's the difference between a life of abuse or an eternity in hell?
@olivebranch56 (910)
• United States
1 May 08
You are so bad! I don't know that any of us without actually having to make that decision could answer truthfully. If it were a matter of my soul, I would say let me die now, but as we all know when it comes to our children we see things differently. I am going to say I would let them go on to heaven, because I don't want to see anyone perish in hell. Having said that though, someone better have some dang good evidence to show me.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
1 May 08
no tolet someone die is a sin in itself no never and you would not go to hell for saving someones life. only sinners go to hell and a child is in no way a sinner. I could and would not kill my child as one of the ten commandents is thous shalt not kill.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 May 08
I didn't say "kill" your child, I asked if you would choose to keep your child alive, even you truly believed it would mean damnation for him or her.
@mkb518 (5)
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1 May 08
That I think would be one of the hardest decisions I would ever have to make. My first knee jerk reaction would be I would do anything to save my child. But to condem them to a life in hell I just don't know. I guess that I would have to believe that my God would not sentence my child to hell because I was trying to save there life.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 May 08
God asks us to do a lot of things we don't understand.
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