What is the Global Poverty Act?
By jormins
@jormins (1223)
United States
May 5, 2008 2:43pm CST
I have recently seen that very few people actually know what the Global Poverty Act really is, but are very quick to spread a rumor that it is from Barack Obama and 845 Billion dollars of your money about to be taken away from taxpayers. As ludicrous as that number sounds, apparently many are very quick to accept that very easy definition and apply it to their favorite candidate to hate. Here is how the bill is defined by a few websites that don't have a right wing agenda:
"Global Poverty Act of 2007 - Directs the President, through the Secretary of State, to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the U.S. foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.
Requires the strategy to contain specific and measurable goals and to consist of specified components, including: (1) continued investment or involvement in existing U.S. initiatives related to international poverty reduction and trade preference programs for developing countries; (2) improving the effectiveness of development assistance and making available additional overall United States assistance levels as appropriate; (3) enhancing and expanding debt relief as appropriate; (4) mobilizing and leveraging the participation of businesses and public-private partnerships; (5) coordinating the goal of poverty reduction with other internationally recognized Millennium Development Goals; and (6) integrating principles of sustainable development and entrepreneurship into policies and programs.
Sets forth specified reporting requirements. Directs the Secretary of State to designate a coordinator who will have primary responsibility for overseeing and drafting the reports, as well as responsibility for helping to implement recommendations contained in the reports."
Most neutral websites estimate it will cost a penny a person. Not quite 845 Billion last time I checked. Also this Bill that has been attached to Obama was actually presented by BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS working together. Representatives Adam Smith and Spencer Bachus introduced this bill in the House. Senator's Obama, Hagel, and Cantwell introduced it in the Senate.
Here is a link to an Obama press release giving some more details of the bill:
http://obama.senate.gov/press/071211-obama_hagel_can/
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5 responses
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
6 May 08
President Johnson Started a program to wipe out poverty in the US. During the 60's and it is estimated that we have spent 40 Trillion Dollars to wipe out poverty. The classic is he visited a man in the hills Georgia and told the man he would fix his leaky roof and get a good road for the man to take his produce to market. It is reported that almost 40 yeas later the roof still leaks and the road is still bad. What have we achieved? A higher crime rate, more single parent families, more poverty, and a third generation on welfare. If Senator Obama were truly interested in helping third world countries he would work to insure that the free market worked and people had the opportunity to advance.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
7 May 08
Bob,
Yeah I do agree its impossible to wipe out poverty altogether this bill isn't going to hurt us as a nation as its a pretty small drop in the bucket (a penny a person) it seems. I do hope if Obama wins the Presidency that he attacks our social issues, many of which he got to experience first hand despite the misconception of his elitism. I don't know any elitists around here trying to organize on the south side of Chicago. Most of them I know hang out at Wrigley way, way up on the north side (no offense Cubs fans).
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
7 May 08
If you want to see what can happen look at Ireland. They reduced Taxes and social programs and encouraged work. They are one of the few growing economies in Europe. Japan, South Korea, and even china are using Capitalism to move their country forward. Maybe we should learn from them and do the same thing at home and encourage other countries to do the same.
@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
27 Jun 08
The only things to consider in this or add to this
Foreign Aid bills/spending is typically $20+ billion per year (that could be added to the supposed 845 billion total). Someone else pointed out it might be added up over years.
Other items
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1302
[i]"(8) At the summit of the Group of Eight (G-8) nations in July 2005, leaders from all eight countries committed to increase aid to Africa from the current $25 billion annually to $50 billion by 2010, and to cancel 100 percent of the debt obligations owed to the World Bank, African Development Bank, and International Monetary Fund by 18 of the world's poorest nations."
"(1) Continued investment in existing United States initiatives related to international poverty reduction, such as the United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003, the Millennium Challenge Act of 2003, the Heavily Indebted Poor Countries Initiative, and trade preference programs for developing countries, such as the African Growth and Opportunity Act."[/i]
Now for those, the increase in annual aid spending to Africa would translate to more spending by the US, at least double the funding if taken at face value.
The second item is already in place in terms of spending, that can be found on the white house site and other services. $3 billion is the spending on Millennium Development Goal, to put it in some perspective. The continued investment can have vagaries to it. On one hand, it could just mean continued investment with reasonable increases (as what happens with most government spending). On the other hand, there maybe significant increases in spending. Nothing is certain with the latter possibility.
Jor, some sources might be forging numbers or otherwise calculating costs over a period of time. Just about most government spending/budget items over several years time would also result in some astonishing numbers (hundreds of billions or trillions).
Personal opinion, I would want to see more spending at home. I do support spending and foreign aid due to the poverty situation, but there should be focus on programs and issues in the nation. Even before that, there should be scrutiny over current spending... really it should be called investment, but I know no one will listen to that. I mean, government spending is supposed to help the nation, keep it running and it is an investment in improving the nation. Several programs can easily be called into question when looked at as investments (transportation, education, other social programs). The amount of spending and the resulting product are seriously imbalanced, unfortunately for the worse.
@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
27 Jun 08
I forgot to add, whenever the US "invests" in something, the money is not coming from a pot of gold hidden behind the White House. There is a cost, the money has an origin typically taxes or it'll be part of that nice growing deficit... -_-
@jormins (1223)
• United States
5 May 08
Very true, but anyone saying its going to cost us 845 Billion dollars and then blaming Obama really shows me whats wrong with the country right now (which is a recent attack on the net against Obama).
I'm with you we need to worry about America first, but I also don't want to cut ourselves off from the world. But we do have to be wary based on Congress & the last 8 years they have shown us so much wasteful spending Democrats and Republicans alike.
I'm personally on the fence on this bill. If its only a penny a person and we can do some good in the world then I'm all for it. However, if it is used improperly as Congress has done in the past to attach other wasteful spending to, then I would say its not a good bill. But I do get the feeling with people like Hagel, Biden, and Obama on the bill that nothing is going to be attached to taint this bill. It just angers me that some would try to wield lies about this bill as another attack against Obama.
I do think its a big step in the right direction when both parties work together like this though. A glimmer of hope perhaps for our potical system which is so messed up.
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@Kowgirl (3490)
• United States
6 May 08
Stop and look at where OUR charity has gotten us!
When any country needs help the USA is there.
When we (USA) needs help we are alone....
This is a bunch of nonsense and we should take care of our own before taking on others. It makes me sick to think about how much money gets wasted by our government in the name of "charity". We have people dieing every day because they can't afford their medication or even food. It's just another way for the rich to take more from the poor.
I think it's all BS and Obama is in it up to his knees.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
7 May 08
I do agree we need to look out for our own country first but this bill really has nothing that will hurt our economy and looks to cost us one penny a person.
If I had the power right now I'd release some of our oil from our strategic oil reserve. That would make gas prices drop overnight and really do some good for everyone struggling paycheck to paycheck.
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
6 May 08
In retrospect, I'm not sure he knew it was a bad idea money-wise. It's from last year, before anyone would even consider that the economy was in trouble and people would soon start having big troubles all over financially.
So I'm not sure I can really hold it to him that much.
Now if he were to make that stupid of a mistake concerning a bill today, THEN I could really hold it against him, 'cause he knows full well how things stand today.