How do I tell this to my boss?
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
India
May 19, 2008 2:30am CST
Well the situation is this. I work as an office assistant and the general typing of the office is my responsibility. I love doing it and am quite fast at the keyboard. Now this guy comes into the office often and he is supposed to be ‘known’ to the boss. Many times, my boss has called me to his chamber and requested me to do typing and internet jobs for this guy. Till this it was OK. After all my boss is signing on my paycheck and its his office and his computers too! But gradually this guy started coming to me straight with his work at anytime and his attitude was particularly insulting. Being ‘known’ to the boss, he’s behaviour was like he owned the office too and that I am bound to work for him (leaving everything aside) and then I did not like his looks and his overtly intimate attitude. He would pull a chair beside me, sit down and get his job done (all the while glancing at me sideways and smiling for no apparent reason).
I told my boss a few times that I could not always give this guy priority over everything else and that he could send me the papers and wait at the reception while I do the work, but you know how bosses are! To him this guy was ‘known’ and that’s what mattered. Of course I could not tell him about the irritating vibes that this guy keeps sending my way! Any diplomatic advices?
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22 responses
@TheManager24 (1302)
• Philippines
19 May 08
well, set up a meeting/ one-on-one with your boss. ask for performance feedback and set expectations. revisit your job description. tell him/her your concern.
i am sure it will be a great step.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
20 May 08
Well Manager, this wont work you know. I am an employee here and this guy’s not an employee but a close acquaintance of my employer. So you see, we are not really on equal terms.
Thnx for the response though.
@warmweatherwoman (2233)
• Atlantic City, New Jersey
20 May 08
This is a tough situation and one I have been in a few times- but the "known" person never stuck around- they always just showed up every now and then.
There was this one guy who wasn't friends with my boss but did business with him that really creeped me out though. If he had to wait for my boss to get there- he would pull a chair right up to the front of my desk and sit there and just stare at me and try to conversate while I was working. At first I was very polite about it but then I started to be stern with him- I had to- If I am feeling some type of way I am one that will speak up- regardless of consequences. I feel everything happens for a reason and if my feeling uncomfortable about something at work is that much of a problem, maybe I shouldn't be working there in the first place.
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
19 May 08
You appear to have caught in a difficult situation, Sudipta. Nonetheless, you have to find out the way and means to get rid of this tricky but unpleasent situation. First of all, you need to tell your boss about his unacceptable behaviour again and can tell him - "Look, Sir, I do not have any problem in executing his job, but it would be better and in the fitness of things, if the job is routed through you, instead of he asking me to do it direct".
You need to be very patient with this fellow, what you can do is, you can delay his job, specially when you see that the man wants to get the job done in a hurry, I mean you will have to find out the ways to irritate him. As far as his advances are concerned, you need to ignore his 'uncalled for intimate attitude' totally and need not 'smile' at him, rather show a 'cold' attitude towards him. What I gather from the whole episode is that the guy appears very close to your boss and he would have done some heavy favours or would have obliged your boss in one way or other, that is why your boss is unable to send him away.
I think you be patient, till you feel that water is starting crossing your head.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
19 May 08
Yes, Deepak, even I think they have some other business and such. I made certain discreet enquiries with the driver and came to know that both of them sit in the evenings for long. Now the thing is that initially, I used to go to the Boss with this guy’s papers for his permission but then Boss used to get irritated. And then he was like ‘why do you need to ask me everytime…whenever Mr. So and so comes, try and do his work as fast as possible.’ Now I think there are two options before me… one is to delay (as per your suggestion) and the other is to confide in another lady colleague who sits very close to me (this is our Sandhya’s suggestion). I think I will implement both and try out a two-pronged strategy.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
21 May 08
Sudipta, Sandhya is not only very intelligent but she speaks in practical terms also.
So my guess about the other fellow's proximity with your boss was correct and as you have told that your boss gets irritated, if you tell him about the other guys' work, it clearly indicates that your boss cannot avoid him, due to one reason or other. SV, has given some good suggestions in her responses, I really appreciate her practical ideas. Accordingly, you need to gather some courage and need to act diplomatically to come out of the tricky situation. Best of Luck to you and my best wishes are with you.
@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
29 Jun 08
hi sudipta! so what has happened to that guy?
if i were in your position and that guy is always taking the liberty to give me work without getting the permission from my boss, i would tell him to talk to my boss first and get his permission and then my boss should be the one to tell me to do the work. my boss is the only one who has the authority to give me work and nobody else. i would do as he would tell me to do. and that guy should understand that even if he's someone important in the company, he should know how to respect authority and he shouldn't bypass that authority.
goodluck with your work sudipta.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
30 Jun 08
I am not seeing him for sometime now (good riddance)…I think he’s gone somewhere on some other work. I say this because the boss does bring in jobs which this guy used to bring in himself…
Feeling much better these days, also because I could talk to you guys on this.
Thnx for being there for me
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
4 Jul 08
that's good for you sudipta! i'm glad for you. good luck with your work.
@aplaza (630)
• Netherlands
19 May 08
Sometimes men need a little help in communicating. If your boss says it's ok to have somebody - who doesn't work at the company in the first place - come in and demand that you type for him then maybe your boss will not be as tolerant when the work he gave you gets to his desk late every time that "Fred" happened to have come by....
And if your boss has the gall to complain then possibly you could look "very innocent" and sweetly reply that you really worked as hard as you could but that "Fred" gave you so much work that held you up.
Now this all sounds really circumspect but I have a feeling that unless your boss "feels some pain" he will not be likely to change his opinion of thinking you are a robot and will keep typing no matter what.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
20 May 08
Yes, even I have been thinking so and I would have to change myself a bit for this. Usually I am fast in my work and Boss dear is used to get his job done pronto but I do think I will purposefully slow down. But first I will have to get rid of this guy…he sits beside me and so he knows how much time exactly I spend on doing his work. Let’s see, some friends here have suggested something like ‘lack of air, feeling of discomfort’ and such so one of these days I think I will try one of these to get rid of this guy and then slow down my work. Something needs to be done about it to make the Boss feel the pinch.
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
19 May 08
well, i think you have to tell the guy yourself in a nice manner and not your boss... try to have a friendly chat with him first and tell him honestly what you really don't like about his attitudes towards you... hopefully, he will be matured enough and change his behaviours... good luck and have a nice day...
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
20 May 08
Thnx Lingli, I do think that I would have to force myself to have a chat with him sometimes. Some guys are like that…just because a lady keeps mum and does not smile at them, it irks them somehow and they try to become acquainted in some other way. they just cant accept that not all women would want to talk and smile at them. Problem is, basically I am an introvert and like to do my work quietly, I just don’t find enough topics to chat on. But yes, I think I will have to try to chat up with him in the hope that it might normalize the situation…
@4mymak (1793)
• Malaysia
20 May 08
in my case.. i already have a 'job description' or 'responsibilities' spelled-out for me... but there is always the last remark/clause :-
'others jobs described or intructed by the Head of Department'.. and usually using this 'clause', they'll 'ask' you to perform odd jobs - including.. entertaining requests from other departments whose jobs do not exactly concern us...
i really hate it when that happens..
but although i dont really enjoy providing this 'service' to them.. i dont mind it so much if my own boss gave me the instructions himself.. but when these people comes directly to me with their 'requests' - it really, really annoys me...
but.. we already had all this cleared out..
instructions will only come from my boss.. i have a right to say 'no' to them when they come directly to me.. and tell them to get my boss to tell me to do it... and in the meantime.. i'll tell my boss.. when is the best time i can perform the 'extra job'..
well.. i guess in your case.. your boss somewhat already told you to give 'priority' to this man...
still... him harassing you and making you feel uncomfortable - IS A SEPARATE ISSUE.. and should be handled separately.. talk to your boss again..
not so much about the 'extra workload' but more of the guy's 'bad attitude' towards you... well.. the guy may think your boss can order you to give priority to his work.. but dont let him think that your boss can order you to please him at the same time... (somehow.. i think that's what he's beginning to think...)
good luck with your boss... take care.
@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
20 May 08
Hi dear
sure its tough and un pleasent situation
but the best thing u can do is to discuss with ur boss again and tell him that he is directly coming to u and asking u to do fis work, and by this her other work is being distrubed and he should always come to u through bosses.
Other thing, when that guy comes, simply tell him that u r occupied and in middle of some one, he should leave stuff with u and u will send it to him when work is donr by office boy.
But dear u have to speak up, ur silence will make it more worse for u. and by doing u will not be voilating any company rule
@kwenge (2487)
• Kenya
20 May 08
First of all tell off this guy in a polite way. Tell him that he should send the work to you then wait at the reception for his work to be completed. Tell him that you dont entertain such vibes that he is sending to you and that you came there to strictly work not other business. Stand up for your rights dear friend. Dont let him intimidate you just because he is known to the boss. If he does not stop then organise for a meeting between the 3 of you - boss, you and the silly viber. Talk out your case while both are listening. Tell your boss how you would like to be treated and am sure they are going to respect you. And this is not going to affect your job.
Hope all goes well.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
20 May 08
I would tell your boss as diplomatically as possible
what this jerk is doing and that it is interfering
with your ability to get your own work done on time
vibes or no vibes. He has to listen to you as he is your
boss.
@lieanat (1137)
• Malaysia
20 May 08
Hi, sudiptacallingu,
If I am in your case, I'll gather evidence about that man's bad behaviours on you through other people help. For example, ask other colleague who you can trust to video tape his action silently since nowadays mobile phone can use to capture video. Then, I'll use that video to show to boss. If boss still ignore, I think you can start find new job! Don't be bully and yet still work double job for a single pay!
@painkiller77 (2073)
• India
31 Aug 08
try to avoid his glances. just try to stay away and make moves like not feeling well, would like to go home . and yes, dress up in very serene way for the office. any hint of provocative dressing and he may think that you are interested.. all the best..
@yurishibuya13 (185)
• Philippines
3 Jul 08
you have to let your boss/manager know what you are being paid for. go through your job description and talk it over with your boss. it doesn't matter if "the other person" is a close acquaintance of your boss; he doesn't pay you to do his job anyway. just be straight-forward but not argumentative. :)
@vanities (11395)
• Davao, Philippines
20 May 08
that was tough!! since your boss allow this guy to give you some additional work which is not supposed to be the case...i understand that you had already told your boss about this guy and dont pay any attention on your complain...which i can conclude that he is tolerating this guy or maybe they have some agreement before giving you some additional work loads...well i guess you have to go with the flow ..but tell him that you cant work straight if he sits beside you and that you have some work to finish coz youre beating the deadline or any alibis you could think off without letting him sense that youre not in favor of all the work he had given you nicely and you called with diplomacy..
@checapricorn (16061)
• United States
19 May 08
Hello sudiptacallingu,
wow! quite hard especially you tried to relay that problem to your boss and no action was taken towards it! If I am in your situation, I will report again to your boss that you are more comfortable to work without the guy's presence and demand for an immediate action on it. You efficiency is affected and you need more privacy while working. I hope he will listen to you if he can feel that you are really serious to what you have requested!
@liranlgo (5752)
• Israel
19 May 08
well i am sorry to tell you that
but i do think that if you want to keep holding your job
you can not do anything about this person
it does seem like he is very important to your boss
maybe there are things that you do not know
like a special agreement between those two.
maybe he is lending him money or somthing like that.
the second choice is to go to your boss and tell him that this guy treats you in a way that is not acceptable to you, but i am not sure he will favour you over him.
i am sorry about the situation
@makingpots (11915)
• United States
19 May 08
I am sorry to hear you are going through this. It's just undue, unneccesarry stress. One thing I would consider doing is keeping very accurate records about the time you spend doing this person's stuff. I would also write the conditions under which you were required to do it (while he waited, sat right next to you, but don't get too detailed). You might even want to come up with a system of coding how much work you had in your inbox at the time of these 'interuptions'. All this might come in handy someday.
It is always a good thing to be able to account for the use of your time. Employers often love that.
@newtondak (3946)
• United States
19 May 08
I agree that a one-on-one meeting to discuss the matter is in order. Clarify with the boss what his expectations are regarding this "known" person. If his expectations are not in line with what was expressed to you at the time that you were employed, let the boss know that fact and let him know how you feel about.
If you feel that this person acted inappropriately towards you, you should also make that fact known, and let the boss know that you will not tolerate such behavior.
@devon1754 (2)
• United States
19 May 08
It sounds to me like you need to sit down and have a heart to heart with your boss. If he's understanding to his employees, simply tell him that you are very uncomfortable with the guy's actions and that he must do something about him. Tell him everything that you posted here and whatever else is bothering you. Every company must have some sort of harrassment policy and if he's a good boss, he will have an open door policy as well. Don't be afraid to talk to him. He is the one who signs your check but after all, if it weren't for you, he would be the one doing the work... Good luck!!