Stay away from your children for higher education?
By SViswan
@SViswan (12051)
India
May 20, 2008 6:38am CST
I had my cousin and his family over this weekend. My cousin's wife is a research scholar (doing her PhD) in another city. They have a 6 year old son. My cousin, his son and his mother-in-law stay together in our hometown. My cousin's in a job where he has to travel out of the city quite often.
We were talking about how my cousin's wife managed to stay in another city without missing her family...she can't go home often and it's been a year this way and she has 2 more years to go. As we were talking, I realized that I would never be able to do it...ie. stay away for the family (kids actually) for further studies or even career...I'd rather give up my dreams for my family. And if I did, I'd hardly be able to get anything done because I'll be thinking about the kids all the time. I'm not saying she's a bad mother...I personally think she's very strong to be able to do what she's doing.
So, which category do you guys fall under?
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
21 May 08
Well, i think i am in your category... since i opted not to go work abroad anymore just to have a baby... and i did not return to my teaching profession because that type of job means being away from my baby for a long period of time in a day... i also did not go back to finish my Master's Degree since i want to concentrate in raising my daughter...
So, in short... i have already sacrificed a lot... but i don't regret any of it...
@SViswan (12051)
• India
21 May 08
I don't regret it either...though I do want to study further. I am doing it right now...but am able to do it at my own pace and not have to stay away from home. It will take me longer than normal...but that's okay. I don't think I would be able to do it if I missed my kids...and stayed away.
@Jemina (5770)
•
21 May 08
Yes, she must be very strong to be able to stay away from her family. It must be a real struggle and sacrifice for her. But if it will improve the her family's situation and she can look forward to a brighter future then she's doing right.
Some people are just lucky enough to have no need to seek further developments in ther life as they are already contented and secured with what they have.
Many people in my country leave their family and small children to work abroad to alleviate poverty. Sometimes they stay away for many years and visit their family only once every two years. I know if they had a choice they wouldn't do that.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
22 May 08
Oh yes he is! He has his grandmother and father with him.
The point of the discussion is that I wouldn't be able to do what the mother did....stay away from my kids to study. It's another matter if I had no other choice but even then I'll always be thinking of them.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
22 May 08
I know what you are talking about because I was a child in such a situation....my dad sometimes had to work abroad and we couldn't meet him till we went over for vacation or he came to visit. But fortunately for us....most of the time we were able to live with him...and the separation happened only for around 3-4 years. But having lived abroad and seen such situations, I know when someone cannot help but stay away.
But in the above situation that's not the case. She is doing it for herself. She has a good job (she's a post graduate) and is right now on leave from the job to continue research. She's got the right kind of support from the family too...and her child is none the worse for it....he's a very nice and well behaved boy....and is attached to the mother too.
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
21 May 08
Very Good Post!
Like you, I would prefer to sacrifice my own ambitions and goals for the sake of my family. I would not prefer, at any cost, to say alone, without my family. I know if this kind of thing happen, not only I would be in trouble, but my family may also suffer, without my presence. It would be really hard for me to stay without kids and my better half. You see, if the kids go away even for 2-3 days to stay at their grand-parent's house, after few hours we start missing them. Two of us find it difficult to spend out time, after few hours, because when kids are around, you need to do lots of things which keep you busy. So without family, it would be a punishment for me to stay at another city, irrespective of the fact, whether the reasons is my study or career.
How are you?
Have a great day!
Deepak
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
21 May 08
Yes, I understand what you say. My husband wouldn't be able to stay away for long either. Even when he has to go out of town for work related stuff for a few days, he feels so bad...he would never stay away for higher education.
I found it so hard when I had to stay away from my son when I was in the hospital to have my second child....and that was just one day! I can't even imagine being able to do anything constructive if I'm away longer.
My parents had to stay away from us (mostly due to career)...and though I was used to it...when I was married, that was the only demand that I had made...I want to marry someone who will take me wherever they are.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
21 May 08
LOL! Great friends think alike..........!!! For both of us, leaving the family and staying separately would be a punishment.
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
20 May 08
I support what she is doing too, but like you I would never do that myself. One reason we never had kids was that we felt the need to complete our education first, and considering the combined number of advanced degrees we have between us, obviously I was past child-bearing age by the time we PHinisheD. Cripers, if I am away alone for one night on a business trip I am already completely freaked out about being away from him, and in 40-odd years of marriage he has never gone on a business trip without taking me.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
21 May 08
I support what she is doing too...and I can also see that she's getting the right kind of support from my cousin. I don't think my husband will be able to do that. Anyways, I can't stay away from my kids that long either....one day (when I was in the hospital for my second child's delivery) was bad enough.
I'm studying too...but I know it will take me a little longer to get my degree but that's okay since my kids are right now my priority.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
21 May 08
Now what does that mean?
Why shouldn't I want to do my PhD? Is my life meant to be in the kitchen and look after the kids and then what do I do when they don't want me anymore? Sit around and mope? Or do little crafts and keep myself busy...or read women magazines and watch serials of television?
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
23 May 08
I am overseas for work and have been for three years. My children are back in my home country. This is not the way I wish for things to be but I have made some less than satisfactory decisions in my life and am working hard to try to regain my feet so to speak. My goal is to get home as soon as possible; it is just a little elusive for now! So I guess I am somewhat in the middle of both the scenarios you have described. Yes, ultimately I have a choice to do one thing or another; but it is unfortunately a little more complicated than that.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
24 May 08
i am not a mother, never wanted to be so I would easily goout of town to further you studies. But i could see a mother trying to get her education So she could take better care of her children.I can see forgoing seeing them now so she could make sure they could live better in the immediate future.
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@apsara60 (6610)
• Israel
21 May 08
Hi sandhiya.......I am with you in this case. After my children were born .....my life did not remain mine after that, because source of may happiness became my growing children and each and every moment that I spend with them. I could not even dream about leaving such small children and thinking of my own dreams. We bring children in this world and it is our duty to give our full attention to them atleast as long as when children are so small. Some women are strong and they can have stone hearts and you know sandhiya, such women get big positions in society, and you and me just remain simple housewives, but I don't care I am proud to be good mother and I am happiest person when I think that I am the reason of smiles on lips of my children. I am with you sandhiy.......I am with my children.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
21 May 08
Though even I have dreams that I want to achieve I don't want it to be at the risk of not being with my kids. I don't think I can do it even with the support of my family. But I won't judge the women who do. I think if they have the right support and they can do it, then they should. This boy (my cousin's son) is well behaved and he is attached to his mother too...so it's not always a bad thing.
It just depends on how strong a person is to get what they want....and what kind of support they have from the family. My cousin is also a post graduate in engineering. If he wanted to, he could have done the PhD instead of his wife....but he chose to let her do it....and be there for the child instead.
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@eden32 (3973)
• United States
22 May 08
It would take very extreme circumstances for me to be away from my children for any period of time, I can't imagine doing it for years. I work from home so that I can be with my children almost all day, every day. I wouldn't say that your cousin is a bad parent either, this is what she feels is best for her family I am sure. I feel bad that any mother would have to sacrifice being in their child's daily life in order to finish their education.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 May 08
My cousin and his wife aren't bad parents....and there's no sacrifice here. Both of them are post graduates in engineering and have well paying jobs. They are doing it for their personal satisfaction. If my cousin's wife waits for a couple of years to do her research, she might lose touch with studying and then it's going to be hard to do it.
My cousin (the husband) is also a research scholar...but he's doing it from a local university so that he can space it out and be with the family....while his wife is doing it from the topmost university in the country.
@youless (112586)
• Guangzhou, China
23 May 08
I won't do this. Education is important, but my child is much more important for me. Besides, I don't think I have to give up one of them. Why not getting a higher education meanwhile taking care of your child? I know it's difficult, but it is still possible. Perhaps they can move there for a while, so that your cousin's wife can finish her degree and also take care of her family.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
23 May 08
It's difficult to move to a different city with the child and the main reason she wanted to stay away is because she couldn't get any studying done at home while taking care of the eneds at home. My cousin (the father) is in fact doing his research too...but from one of the local universtities so that he can space it out and not leave the family. The wife is doing it from one of the topmost universities in the country.
The child is well taken care of...and there are no problems on that front. He is attached to the mother too...no issues there either. It seems and works out perfect for them.
But I know I won't be able to do it either. I'm studying too...but I chose a local university and not the one I wanted because I couldn't leave my kids and stay without the family. And it's tough to be a research scholar if you have to take care of other things too.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
5 Jul 08
I think this depends on how a person would think. I'm sure it's tough on her but maybe she's thinking more of the future she could give her kid.
On the other hand, there are really people who could do that. I have an aunt and uncle who'd leave their 3month old baby to a care of a old couple and just finance the baby's growth and visit one in a while.. around once a week at most.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
6 Jul 08
My cousin and his wife have well paying jobs and she is doing it because she wants to. The are well settled in life...they have their own home and their car and everything that they need. Money was not the issue or a secure future. Both are post graduates and are now research scholars. She chose to do it from one of the topmost universities in the country.
The child is none the worse for it and is well behaved and attached to both the parents. I guess they have managed to get the balance right...though I wouldn't have been able to do it.
@newzealtralian (3930)
• Australia
22 Jun 08
I have dreams of what I want to do, but my family has to come first. I didn't have kids just to palm them off on anyone all day every day to raise, I feel that it is my job to raise them, otherwise, what was the point of having them?
While I have given up so much for my family, and grumbled about it more than once , I know that my time is the most precious thing they can have right now, and watching them grow makes it all worthwhile.
My study dreams are on hold, but Uni isn't going any where. When the time is right, I can start my studies, but I will not allow my family to suffer for it.
I'm lucky in that what I want to do, I can do most of it from home. Distance Education was actually designed for parents like me, and the course I want to do is designed for online learning, and self paced.
Right now, i'm expecting my 5th child, so plans are on hold again, but I know when I am ready, I can apply and get things rolling. I can take on as many or as few units as I can manage, which is good, and the resources for online students is greater than those who trudge into Uni every day.
Homework time at my place will consist of me and my girls working together to complete tasks, of course me putting mine aside to help with theirs, but my doing my work with them will set a very good example!
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
6 Jul 08
My cousin and his wife are research scholars. That can't be done through distance education. The wife chose to do it from one of the top universities of the country and moved to the hostel so that she wouldn't be distracted with the home responsibilities. The husband (my cousin) is doing it at a nearby university so that he can be close to the child. Both of them have other well paying jobs.
@jyoti_medha (567)
• Mauritius
23 May 08
Sacrifices have to be made to achieve something in life but I do not think its a good idea of being away from your children as they also need their parents' affection and care and if you are very close to your children and you cannot stay without them its better not to take such a chance because if you stay away from your children you would not be able to concentrate on your studies.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
5 Jul 08
Well, my cousin's wife is a research scholar and the main reason she is staying away is so that she can concentrate. Being with the child, it will be difficult to concentrate because the child's responsibility will be on her mind and she can't get any reading done when he is physically around.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
21 May 08
The wife must be having her own justifications and everyone has different priorities in life but had I been in such situation I would definitely give up my career at any cost. I do not have kids but I am sure it would have been painful to live without kids. I am a very sensitive and out and out family person and living without family, specially the kids, would have been a big NO for me.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
22 May 08
Same here Mimpi.
But she's doing it for her personal satisfaction and the good thing about the whole thing is that it has not affected the child in the negative. She misses the child, of course...but she can't go home often and when she can't go...sometimes her husband (my cousin) and the child visit her for a day.
It's not her priority and she has a well paying job. I just got to know that my cousin is doing his PhD too...but he's spaced it out so that he can be home most of the time and doesn't have to stay away from home for it. She's doing it from IIT while he's doing it from a local university.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
22 May 08
Seeing and talking daily is not enough for me.
And the education is paid for because it is research. And she's doing it from a prestigious university. I just got to know that my cousin is doing his PhD too...but he's doing it from a local university because he didn't want to be away from home and he could space it out so that it won't affect the child.
And they aren't doing it so that they get well paying jobs. Both of them already have well paying jobs...this is just an extension of what they personally want to do...their dreams.
@makingpots (11915)
• United States
22 May 08
I wouldn't be able to do what your cousin and wife are doing. But I am just very different from them. My dream actually is to have and be with my family sharing life experiences.
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
22 May 08
It's nice that you get to live your dream.
I want to study further too (and I am) but I wouldn't be able to stay away from my kids to do it. This way, I can do it at my pace without having to give up the time I share with my kids. So what if I can't do it from a university of my choice? I get to fulfil my dreams without compromising my time with family.
And I just got to know that my cousin is doing his PhD too. He's doing it from a local university and has spaced it out so that the family isn't affected. They both have well paying jobs and they are doing it for their personal satisfaction.
@4mymak (1793)
• Malaysia
21 May 08
dont think i can either...
i think i'll miss my childnen more than they would miss me..
but i think with the technologies of modern times.. with 3G phones.. webcam.. and what nots.. you can always 'see' each other, even when you are apart..
maybe that's how she survives the 'separation'...
@SViswan (12051)
• India
21 May 08
No, we don't have all there here yet. Once a month, if she isn't able to get home, her husband and child visit her for a day.
The main reason why she didn't stay home and study is because she knew she'd have too much work load and no studying would get done when she was home. She wanted to concentrate on her work and for that she needed to move away from home. But of course, she misses her child....but her guide does not let her go often.
@MisterPlus (1915)
• Philippines
21 May 08
I guess I would do the same as your cousin did. Thinking about my son's future is the thing I could do best for him. I believe that the step to have a higher education is getting ready for my family's future. I would be very thankful to my relatives who had been there for my child. To my child I'll make sure that we will be talking a lot on the phone so we will be more closer even we are apart.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
22 May 08
Wow! I wish I was as strong as you are.
But my cousin's wife is doing it for herself. She has a good job and she's on leave to do her research. My cousin's doing his PhD too....but from a local university while she's doing it from one of the prestigious universities. And both of them already have well paying jobs and are quite secure. What they are doing right now is for their personal satisfaction.
But it's all good because the child is well taken care of...and is not lacking in any aspect...he's well behaved and attached to both parents. And yes, telephone is the only means of communication.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
21 May 08
I am a senior citizennow but I cannot imagine when mykids
'were little being able to go someplace and not be
with my family at all. I went back to college at age
fifty and got my Ba in English as Ihad never finished
my college years when younger. my family was everything
to me and now I live with my son. I lost my little girl
when she was eight.Family always came first with me.
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