Do you support Obama and why?
By light27
@light27 (33)
United States
June 21, 2008 3:59pm CST
I could have never considered supporting David Duke when he ran for president. He had a well documented involvement in the KKK in his past. In order for me to have supported him there would have had to have been irrefutable evdince that God himself had appeared to him and he had changed. I am a white man but, I would not support a racist even though he was in favor of my race.
Today we have Mr. Obama running for president. He has a well documented involvement in a racist church, including well documented financial support of it as well. A member of it for 20 years and says he found Jesus there (maybe he found the imposter, I don't know). I can somewhat understand the 90% of the black vote going to him for he is for the black race. However, I do not understand why a white person would support a black racist. I've spent a lot of time thinking about it, and the only answer I can come up with is Prozac.
So I would really like to hear from white people and hear their reasons for supporting this man. (and if they are taking phyc meds at this time.)
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
21 Jun 08
Okay even though I sense sarcaism in your discussion I do see your point. However, I look at it this way...there is no such thing as a black racist or a white racist....a racist is a racist. ANd even though Obama says he knew nothing of the hateful talks, which as you pointed out he sat in that church for 20 years, I am a bit concerned about his character.
And Obama is not of African AMerican descent, I believe if the minority is supporting him for this reason they need to check out his background...but anyone who would vote for someone based upon color and creed are ignorant.
I have to admit, when he announced he was running and since I knew little about him and politics I thought why not...he is fresh and young, and what this country is made up of...a mixture of life. Well, then I started reading and started actually looking at how he was characteristically--which I think says a whole lot about a person--and needless to say I was not impressed at all by him. And a part of me was upset, but I have since gotten over all that.
ANd anyone who does not quesiton his affiliation with a church who would allow hatefilled sermons....well I quesiton their judgement. Because if I sat in a church that bashed AMerica, races, genders (as a guest preacher did of Hillary Clinton shortly before Obama left the church) well I am sure that many people would quesiton my intentions. As they should
With this said I do not support Obama, McCain, nor did I ever support Clinton. My vote in the primaries was for RON PAUL. ANd if I have a chance of a write in it will be for Ron Paul and I will not waste my vote on any other.
Nice discussion starter.
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@light27 (33)
• United States
22 Jun 08
TO: Toledo Mark, I never voted for Bush SR., or JR. I am not a part of the vast rightwing conspiracy. I attended a very large church, and very liberal. All races, short skirts and some leather, need I say more. We welcomed all. As far as the bush thing, why do people try to make me defend him? You are not the first... O.K. here goes, (LOL man don't make me do this!) I'm not a supporter of his even though I feel like people have been very hard on him. The speach you referenced I know nothing about and is questionable if true. It however does not rise to the level of 20 years of membership, and writing lots of big checks to perpetuate.
Oh, by the way I'M NOT A REPUBICAN, if you read the rest of my answers that will be apparent.
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@kareng (61772)
• United States
22 Jun 08
I don't see how anyone could have sat through 20 years of sermons to not notice the hate and sarcasm. Did he just sit there and daydream? I don't see how some people can be so dense as to not question some of the these things.
@light27 (33)
• United States
22 Jun 08
Which ones? the ones that make us dependant upon people who hate us? (oil) Or the ones that would destroy the american way of life over a theory? (Global warming) Or the cap and tradeing of carbon credits? (tax on all americans) Do they have any ideas that will not destroy personal freedoms and have us all work for the good of the state? These are all real questions not just rhetoric. Please clear it up for me, I will listen to anything reasonable. By the way in the past I've voted for democrats as much as anyone... I'm not a McCain supporter, he is almost as bad as Obama... I WANT SOMEONE THAT MAKES SENSE!!! PLEASE GOD GIVE US SOMEONE THAT MAKES SENSE, I'LL VOTE FOR THEM EVEN IF THEY ARE PINK!!! (PLEASE MR.PAUL RUN AS AN INDEPENENT.)
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
23 Jun 08
If there is a choice to write him write him in.....I know I plan to.
@honeydew82174 (1720)
• United States
21 Jun 08
I am a white man from a white community. You could say that it is a racist or a prejudiced community. I don't think it is fair to say Obama is a racist because he goes to a racist church or it is said that the preacher is a racist. That would be like myself saying I don't like the color red because it reminds me of blood. There is alot of controversy over this dilemma but I don't think it will effect his judgment in running this country. Obviously, eight years of hardship is not enough for all Americans. We are still stuck in the past. It is time to look ahead of ourselves and see what the future can bring us. It has already been eight years, the with John McCain looks like it will be the same as we have now. I think it is about hope,Obama, can step out of the past and lead this country into a new beginning. If he is elected he will have many battles to fight not just racism. As Martin Luther King said "I have a dream",so does Obama! I think he is the best candidate for the job and I think he will do his very best to lead this country positively.@kareng (61772)
• United States
22 Jun 08
He also wants to provide low income housing for foreigners. Hello?? I can see us all working to support all those on welfare and getting free or low income housing. I guess I might consider quitting working too, if I can get all those benefits? Why work and bust my behind?
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@light27 (33)
• United States
22 Jun 08
WOW, Well I guess I was unfair to David Duke by that standard. To put Obama in office would destroy what is left of this country. He is so far left that he makes Jimmy Carter look conservative. $10.00 gas here we come. See you in the soup line brother, thanks for voting.
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@TCampbell (180)
• United States
22 Jun 08
Hey light27, how's it going? I'm undecided who I'm going to vote for in this election. I'm a registered Independent and I've voted for both parties in the past because I don't think any one party is right all of the time. I am from Tucson Arizona and John McCain is my senator and I've voted for him each time he is up for re-election. Usually it's because no one is running against him and when they do they're really lame.
However, this presidential election is by far the most interesting that I can remember. To elect a man that is of color would be historic but to do so primarily on that premise is wrong. I believe that John McCain is a good man and I also think the same of Barack Obama. I think they both are qualified, I think they both love America and I think they both believe they have the country's best interest in mind when they campaign. I know that Senator Obama's involvement with his old church presents a problem for some people. But take John McCain, he served in a military that until recently was very discriminatory against blacks. Does that make him a racist? No, I don't believe so. I worked with several people who hated non-whites but did that make me a racist? No, it did not. I really don't think that Senator Obama is a racist but that's only my opinion. I do wonder, however, why you would only want to hear from white people and not from anyone of color.
@light27 (33)
• United States
22 Jun 08
I was in the Navy, you don't get to choose who you serve with so therefore, not responcible. Personally, I think they are both hopless. I'm not here to judge either of them, could care less about them except how they would effect our country. As far as you and your job, we all do things for money that we would not do otherwise, so I have no judgment of your work relationships.
As I said in my question, I can understand black people supporting him, so that question does not go unanswered in my mind...
@pheromones (3)
• United States
22 Jun 08
it seems as though obama is trying to bring unification within the divisions of the political parties.
he has a geniune demeanor.
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
23 Jun 08
Time magazine claimed him to be a chameleon who can appeal to all groups.....now I dunno about you, but I do know what a chameleon looks like....anyone he is around....meaning taking on the appearance of whoever is within eyesight....scary thought.
@kareng (61772)
• United States
22 Jun 08
I do not support him because I am not convinced that he is totally converted to christianity. He has a Muslim background and that is pretty scary in itself. I don't know what people are thinking even considering voting for him. Hillary wasn't the best choice, but I think better than Obama.
