Kids - the binding factor in a straining marital relationship??
By mimpi
@mimpi1911 (25464)
India
June 28, 2008 6:08am CST
My friend doesn't go along well with her husband. Even though they are civilised enough not to fight and pick on each other but certainly they aren't sharing their lives together. It's like living in the same apartment with a stranger. Here I am not judging any one of them but what's important is that they have been living (Is this living at all?!) like this for 4 years now! Just because of the 5 year old they have, they are sacrificing their life. May be its good for the child but in the long run, when the kid grows up, what will happen?
[b]Will they ever find the same opportunity, the youth or the inclination? Will they be able to re live the lost years, the prime time of their life? Is there any chance of patch up?
What do you think?[/b]
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28 responses
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
28 Jun 08
For me, I guess its worth the sacrifice for the sake of the child. He is the innocent party on the issue and should not in any way be troubled by it at his/her age. I guess parents should be responsible to make their child grow in a complete family setup. I have seen many young minds being crushed by families separating and I guess it has a big impact on the child. But if the child is affected because of the conflict too there are cases its better that they separate but if its manageable and the issues could be settled then its better for them to stay as father and a mother at least to their children.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
30 Jun 08
That's what my friend has to say as well. But don't you think that a child has strong sense of perception and pick up the wrong vibe instantly?
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
30 Jun 08
Thanks for coming back. I do think that the children can sense things that we wouldn't have imagine and in this case also I am sure he's smart enough.
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@cupid74 (11388)
• Pakistan
30 Jun 08
Hmmmmmmm
Tough question
more tough to reply
But sure, if they are doing compromise for their kid, and living togather for 4 yrs, which is really an effort.
but if they just made some more efforts and some more compromise to adjust and accomodate each other and mould themselves then i am sure their would be happy family( both husband and wife to do it)
Thats best i can suggest
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
30 Jun 08
Cupid, even I wish the same but do not see that happening!
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@apsara60 (6610)
• Israel
29 Jun 08
Mimpi you have pointed out a very bitter fact of life. Unfortunately this is very true and very true in India, where couple can really know each other only after marriage and by the time they realise that they are not made for each other, they are already parents and they definitely love this beautiful gift of god....and then life goes round and round making children happy.....and life leaves the couple with no choice but to adjust and accept life as it is.....This adjustmnent is sometime accepted also as it gives security and stability.....as most of the girls are fully dependent on husband....and you know in India, not all girls who come back from in-laws are welcomed again in the same family where she was born......so sad........so I agree with you that kids are very strong binding factor in straining marital relationship
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
1 Jul 08
yes apsara, its sad. Though things are changing but way to go. Most women, if not men, in India are just living others; lives and not theirs. They are not happy obviously. However, most have come in terms with what has hapepned to them.
Very strange and sad!
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@faith210 (11224)
• Philippines
3 Jul 08
Hi mimpi1911! I really think that they should live their own lives. I know that they love their child very much that is why theya re sacrificing their own happiness for the sake of the child. But I don't think it is healthy to live that way. The child, even how young he may be can still sense that there is something wrong with his parents.
Take care and God bless!
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
4 Jul 08
Yes, I agree with you Faith. Children can sense such things and it's not advisable to pull on like this just for the sake of the kid.
Have a great day.
@newzealtralian (3930)
• Australia
14 Jul 08
Unfortunately, a child that grows up in a household where the parents are staying together for the child, will grow up entering bad relationships because that is what they are raised with.
Parents should split up instead if things are that bad, and be as fair on each other as possible for the childs sakes, and their own.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
15 Jul 08
I endorse your views totally. That should be the right approach I guess. But many parents think they would do right by staying out together. I just cannot understand this.
@Mainframeguy (200)
•
2 Jul 08
Not tricky AT ALL in my view. Very simple criteria - if you fight wth partner or find it detracts in any way from your life, then separate and make your own homes and let the children share both. Kids love this, they get extra space and options and maybe double holidays too. Kids hate seeing their parents fight or be sad a lot more.
So I see it as a really simple thing - it is almost always very dumb to "stay together for the children" and sets them a bad example and causes unnecessary suffering. Kids are not dumb and soon work this out for themselves, I know I did and wish my parents had separated years earlier than they did!
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
3 Jul 08
I completely endorse your views. And this I have been explaining to them but in vain. After all its their lives, they have to take the final decision. And I strongly feel that the children can sense it all.
Thanks.
@academic2 (7000)
• Uganda
30 Jun 08
Yeah my dear, kids usually stand in there to reconcile their enstranged parents-I agree that a marriage is not about the parents and kids perse-it is between the parents, mother and father-but you see, the kids are the innocent parties, and kind people put asisde their irreconciliable differneces and handle their kids as the most mportant element in their relationship-some kids could in the long run help to reconcile the parents and make the marriage work-dont let a child suffer for what he/she doesnt know, even if you must quarrel for the sake of the kids, do it behind closed doors-and come out to the living room and smile with them-they are innocent!
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
2 Jul 08
yes, that should be the approach, I agree. But sadly most do not cater to this. However the one I am talking about is little more civilized.
Thanks.
@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
30 Jun 08
I believe that a kid or kids are the binding factor for the couples to go together. Had there been no kids, many of the couples would have parted their ways, after their marriage. A woman when becomes a mother develops a bond and attachement towards her kids, which somehow forces her to go along with her hubby for the benefit and welfare of her kids. Marriage is another name of adjustment in life and those who can make adjustments go along well in marriage. Adjustment in each every relationship is essential, however, degree may be more if one has to adjust with her/his spouse. If one of the partners adjusts, life goes on smoothly and if none of the partners is willing to adjust, marriage will fall apart.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
30 Jun 08
Thanks for your valuable response. Yes, marriage is compromise and understanding and they are doing it all. They in fact have been doing it for years now, all for the kid. But don't you feel that the children are smarter than we feel they are? I am sure the child is intelligent enough to read the silence. They have had good sessions of counseling and reasonings and arguments but nothing did work. In that case, what do you think?
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@anonymili (3138)
•
1 Jul 08
Hi sweetheart, I have to say that I do not believe for one minute that having kids is a way to mend a relationship. People thought that I should have had kids with my ex, but I am glad I did not as I would have ended up as a single parent and might not have met my lovely 2nd husband and been so happy with him. I have never been particularly bothered about having kids and those that I know who have had kids to repair what they thought was an ailing marriage - well it never worked out for them, they're either unhappy and staying together just for the sake of the kid(s) or have split up and the mother is struggling to bring up the children alone. One of my friends had a bad marriage (arranged) from the beginning - she went off and had 1 kid, he calmed down for a while (her hubby) then started playing up again, so she had another kid, things got worse, so what did she do? She got pregnant again cos she had 2 boys and wanted a girl, now they're separated and going through a divorce, he gives her no financial support and she's struggling to bring up 3 kids and is miserable most of the time and always complaining about how hard her life is and how she never has any time for herself. In this day and age, even if you are in a stable marriage, it's difficult to afford 3 kids so imagine having to bring up 3 kids as a single parent? Even having 1 kid in a single or no income is a struggle, so unless you really are sure you can cope with a child alone, don't have a kid to save a marriage which might break up anyway...
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
2 Jul 08
I agree totally. In this case however, things were fine until they had the child. It's only after a year or so of the birth that problem started. It's a difficult case both ways. she is financially stable but not that much and bringing up a child all alone is out of question. For they feel that without anyone of them the kid would suffer, which is right. But one has to take the decision for pulling on would not help the child or anyone for that matter.
@miamilady (4910)
• United States
1 Jul 08
I have some similar things going on. The thing is, when you have a child, they become the most important thing in your decission making.
There are times when divorce is the better option. If the couple is constantly fighting and making things bad for the child, then the couple should probably get divorced.
But, if the couple can get along, then sometimes it's just better to "stick it out" in order not to disrupt the child or childrens lives.
Sometimes there are no simple solutions to some of lifes problems.
What works for one person may not work for another. It's up to each couple to figure out what is best for them AND their children.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
2 Jul 08
Yes, this is but subjective and the couple must figure it out themselves.
@ellie333 (21016)
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30 Jun 08
Hi mimipi, I personally would rather be a single parent than living unhappily in the wrong relationship as this can also have an effect on the children. It is not ideal but it works if both the parents still give the children love and attention even if they are living apart. I know some people do stay together for the sake of the children but surely this must build a resentment towards the fact that they are unhappy for doing this. I won't advice her to leave him as I am an outsider looking in a I don't know the inner secrets of their home only what is written here. But a happy healthy parent I feel is better for the child in the long term. The first thing this couple need to do is communicate to each other how they are really feeling and move on from there. Ellie :D
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
30 Jun 08
I couldn't agree more with you ellie.
I think that the child is getting the wrong vibes even though the parents are not fighting and sometimes silence could be deterrent! I have asked them to separate and give good share of their lives by talking it out.
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@anex08 (868)
• Philippines
1 Jul 08
I dont know what to do with that kind of situation, actually i cannot stand being unrecognized or not to talk at all by the person which plays an important role in my life. Maybe they were hoping that by living together, they can still reminisce the past and try to live on and save the relationship they have. They might still have faith and love and eagerness to save their relationship. Maybe, that was a wishful thinking, I just wish it is, not only for the child but for both of them.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
2 Jul 08
You are a wonderful person anex and this reflects your thoughtfulness. Even I wish the same for them.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
1 Jul 08
it's not good for the child for them to stay together just for it. a 5 year old can sense the strain between them. they are not doing it as favor to the child or themselves either.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
2 Jul 08
I appreciate your thoughts. Only wish they could sense it as well!
Thanks.
@mjmlagat (3170)
• Philippines
1 Jul 08
I admire the the greatness of your friend's love for her son; what she's doing is a huge sacrifice for herself (as well as his husband).
It's not easy at all to forget yourself and give up the best of your life for someone however, if you really love the individual, you will selflessly do so.
In your friend's situation: as long as they will not fight in front of the kid, I think the kid will just be fine and will live a normal life. But as he grows older, there is a need for them to slowly explain to him what's going on or what is the situation between both of them to avoid confusion on the part of the child.
Anyway, since your friends are still staying together, maybe they are still seeing and holding on to a bit of hope left in their hearts...I hope and pray so for that kid's sake.
I wish you all good luck!
Don't give up...Hope is NEVER Lost!
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
2 Jul 08
You got to the point and explained it very simply but effectively. You are completely in my friend's shoes and justified the response. She speaks the same when asked. I sincerely hope things get better for each of them and thy soon live a better life in which ever way it might be.
Thanks for your sensible approach towards this.
@alokn99 (5717)
• India
29 Jun 08
A few married couples I know who have kids stay in the relationship because of these kids. If not for this binding factor they would have broken up a long time ago. thier point of view is that they want thier children to grow knowing that they have both thier parents around them during thier growing up stage. Thee do not see the adverse affect of their constant rifts on thier children.
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
29 Jun 08
well, that is what happen nowadays in many families... a lot of couples are unhappy but they stay together just for the sake of their children... but there is no communications between them and they live like enemies inside the house... it is really sad... i think those couples need to rekindle their love again by remembering their vows to each other when they get married and do the things that they do in the past when they are still dating... i believe that remembering the good times that they share together and their vows can help to rekindle their love again and save a broken marriage that is on a verge of divorce... take care and have a nice day...
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
1 Jul 08
This is such a sweet response! I just wish this works for everyone. Certainly differences to such an extent are not good things. But life would have been so much fun and loved if we all could follow this.
Thanks dear.
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@misheleen73 (6037)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I think the fact they are civil to each other is good. Children do not need to be in a violent/negative emotional environment. Whether they can patch things up or not is up to them. They have to want to. I do believe that staying together for the sake of the child, is probably better for the child. If they argued or fought, then that would be different. When we bring a child into this world, we automatically put them and their needs in front of ours. There are way too many selfish people in the world, that get up and walk out on their children. In the end, it is up to your friend and her husband to decide what's best for them and their child.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
30 Jun 08
Thanks michelle. Yes, they have been staying out together for some years now, just for the sake of the child.
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@I_LUV_U (2519)
• India
30 Jun 08
I think they must put up with each other at least until the child matures emotionally. I think depriving the 5-year old of a parent is most likely to prove costly for the child by hampering his overall growth. Father and mother are two vital but totally different teachers, as far as I'm concerned, and both are equally important although I might give a faint edge to the mother (say 51%). In my own experience, I could never have received the same education that I obtained from my father, through my mother, and vice-versa.
To me, the whole essence of parenting is to put your child's interest before your own, and if one cannot do it because of their ego intervening, they can never be just in their roles as parents.
So, I repeat, they must put up with each other, leaving behind their differences, for it is their child even in the absence of the synergy that brought it into existence. Meanwhile, they could teach their child to be tough and independent, so that he could feel self-reliant and secure.
As for patching up the differences, it is most often the ego that hinders people from a reunion with their spouses and if one of them can take a step forward to give it up, there is still a hope!
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
30 Jun 08
Thanks for an insightful response.
Firstly, they have gone past that phase of reconciliation, counseling and reasoning. It's happening for quite some time now. There is no hope but you ever know I am always hopeful.
I think, they are deciding on the age thing of the child. They do not want to make him feel vulnerable at this tender age.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I strongly believe in working things out for the betterment of the child. Has your friend and her husband tried going out without the child and rekindling the lost romance? Have they gone to see a psychiatrist so that they might be able to talk about what has bothered their relationship so much? I think that if they really love their child they will try harder to become more and more happy with one another so that the child does not grow up seeing the parents separated but together. This will surely not help the child's reaction to love. Have a Great day.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
1 Jul 08
Thanks hon for your response.
But I am afraid they did all of those, it didn't kinda work...
@mimico (3617)
• Philippines
29 Jun 08
I think the fact that they are able to stay civil together shows how much they are willing to work out the kinks in their relationship. It may be that they're just putting up a farce for the sake of their child, but if you think about it,they're actually also trying to work on saving their marriage. A lot of couples just split up and take turns with the baby. I guess in a few years they'll learn to be comfortable again with each other. And hopefully someday they'll fall in love all over again. :)