Does racism still exist?
By shamsta19
@shamsta19 (3224)
United States
June 28, 2008 3:57pm CST
Now I don't want to start any arguments but I want to know your opinion. Recant events and discussions have led me to post this topic and I wanted to know the general consensus on the subject. I have my own personal opinions but do you think we've made ant progress in the past thirty, forty or fifty years? Do you believe there is a such thing as racism in this day and age or have we evolved beyond that?
Let me know people.....
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28 responses
@cobrateacher (8432)
• United States
28 Jun 08
If only it didn't! I remember many instances of racism I encountered as a Jewish child in a southern town. When my high school was ordered to integrate, in the 1960s, we got one black boy and one black girl, and the principal called that integration. By then, they'd removed the full-wall signs from the parking lot sides of the fancy hotels on Miami Beach that said, "No Jews, dogs, or Negroes Allowed!" There were still separate restrooms and water fountains for blacks and whites, and I don't think anyone black ever found a good restaurant that wasn't all booked up before they tried to get a reservation.
Has that changed? Only somewhat! There are a lot of mixed-race couples in Miami now, and a lot of multiracial people, but they still get hasseled constantly. There's also reverse discrimination, by which blacks have opportunities others would like but can not get in on.
When filling out as form that asks for race, I often fill in, "human," but I'm always asked, not very politely, to change it.
May we all join in the human race and discard the other designations before long!
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
29 Jun 08
And it isn't much different in South Carolina either!
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@ayumitakashi (4462)
• United States
28 Jun 08
We have made some progress over the past fifty years but I believe that there is still racism today. I'm hispanic and I still see racism against many races. When I do see this I am really saddened and just get really mad because it's really stupid. When I met someone from another race I don't act mean towards them and treat them differently. I like learning about other people and their culture and stuff so I just try and find out more about them instead of alienating them.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Jun 08
You are like me. I don't pretend it doesn't exist, especially since I moved to the South, but I approach everyone as equal and take it from there. And it is prevalent in ANY race.
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@ayumitakashi (4462)
• United States
28 Jun 08
Yeah I know. It happens to all races at any time and it's really dumb. I don't understand why people can't understand that we are all humans and we have the same organs and everything inside of us.
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@prasanta (1948)
• India
19 Jul 08
I say it is very much existing in our country -- India. Although in workplaces, it is not very prominent. In religious shrines often it is clearly written. A perfect human mind needs to see everyone with equal value. We should not forget that we have no hands on where should we be born. Then after taking birth, why should we feel high or low about others?
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@cyberfluf (4996)
• Netherlands
29 Jun 08
I don't think racism can be banned completely from society, but we have made tremendous progress. The fact that there are laws prohibiting racism is one of the big steps forward, and a police force and government that don't close their eyes for it but take action. I do hope someday racism can be totally banned, but I'm pretty sceptical it will totally fanish. As long as we can keep it down that's allready a very good thing, and we have to keep fighting making this world a loving and safe place for everyone.
@cyberfluf (4996)
• Netherlands
30 Jun 08
Thanks :) Our last game was kind of said, even if we would've won as one of the players (Boularouz) lost his 1 day old daugther the day before the game :(
So basicly lots of Dutch people weren't that happy and celebrating any more, and Russia was very, very strong too ;) They played an awesome game. I glad we made it this far and had fun with all the games.
Thinking how this relates to racism; did you notice in the Dutch soccer team there is a big variety in race, religion and nationality? I think it's a good example of great teamwork between different people and a great example for us all :)
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jun 08
Amen to that. And your team didn't do so bad in the Euro Cup if I do say so myself.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
2 Jul 08
I noticed the same thing with a lot of teams and in fact every team seemed to have a Brazilian this year. I do like soccer(football) for its diversity and am glad to see such a show of comradeship and teamwork. Excellent point thanks for responding.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Sadly, this is all too true. In the United States of America, we will be having an election in November for a new president, and most people will not vote for Obama because he is black. Our country is evolving from racism, slowly, but sooner or later, we have to all come to the conclusion that we are all human and that we all bleed red, and that we all have common goals. Hopefully, in twenty more years, racism will, hopefully, almost, come to a complete stop.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
1 Jul 08
Racism in America is a major problem, but again, let us see what happens in 20 or maybe 30 years from now. I have personally experienced racism first hand as I was growning up. I am a white woman living in a Latino neighborhood and sometimes it is hard for people to understand me or for me to understand them. I am a very open person, I love new things, new ideas, changes, but the people I live around like to stick to their traditions. People would call me "weta" or "gringa" because of my race, but as for me, I began learning Spanish and I celebrated some of their traditions. My family has some traditions, but if we break them, it is not like it will hurt anyone or kill anyone. People just need to be open about things. We would get along so much better if we threw certain things out of the window.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
2 Jul 08
So true. We need to stop letting our cultural differences be the reason we don't relate to one another. I know where I live some people lack the understanding or interest to learn about other cultures and instead people just spew idiotic rhetoric about one another. The attitude towards Hispanic people here in the south is ridiculous!! Not just White people either but everyone. Don't even get me started on Middle Easterners!!
It's petty and ignorant if you ask me.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jun 08
And I hope both of you are right. Let's hope Obama doesn't get assassinated and lets toast to the next twenty years of progressive thinking!
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@lilybug (21107)
• United States
28 Jun 08
Unfortunately, yes racism still exists. It seems that people are more "CLOSET RACISTS" than they were years ago. Back even 20 years ago people were more willing to admit that they were racist. Now a lot of those same people will claim to not be racist when in fact they still are.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jun 08
Not down here in South Carolina! A lot of people here are proud of there racism and it is prevalent in everything around here, the housing development, job market, the politics, etc.
@nadams80 (77)
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29 Jun 08
Oh yes, definitely, racism still exists. You should see some of the posts here...of course you have!
I'm a new user and I know that it does exist but I didn't know people could be shockingly so crude and intolerant! I saw a post that said "those f@#%ing muslims should go back to the desert".
Racism is definitely alive and kicking. What shocks me more that it seems to be more rampant and alive in the Western countries. I am from South Africa, and while there are some people who are still racist I feel "safer" here, more accepted and free to practice my religion without stares and any preconcieved notions.
If I went to France, I wouldn't be allowed to wear my headscarf, if I went to America I stand a good chance of being labeled a terrorist. I always thought the West were more "backward" in that respect, well at least compared to South Africa.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jun 08
It was a topic I posted that made me post this one. I asked why are so many in fear of Barack Obama? The prejudice anti muslim sentiment is very prevalent in here. A believe a lot of people are influenced by the media's lies but there is a fear of the Muslim and Islam in general. And that's just one race and religion.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
2 Jul 08
Exactly my point and how can we be so smart and so dumb at the same time? It's like super intelligent people lose it when something is different and then I wonder are they intelligent at all.
@nadams80 (77)
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1 Jul 08
Yes I've seen your postings and lots of the anti Islamic sentiment. In fact we are both contributing to such a discussion at the moment about where the idea of Allah came from. We live in a world where access to knowledge is so widespread yet there still sooo much ignorance.
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@prasanta (1948)
• India
29 Jun 08
Do you have any doubts? Don't you listen the world news daily? Everywhere fulls are trying to prove their respective racial superiorities, and killing and causing harm to others.
Thoughts of racism are inflicted by the politicians and ill-willed people to all countries, societies and even localities -- the very purpose is attempt to churn out some personal or family benefit, which may be the power of ruling, gaining more profit from business etc.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jun 08
There is no doubt in my mind prasanta. I always enjoy posting thought provoking topics and you'd be surprised at the responses I've gotten in the past (ultimately the reason I posted this in the first place). Anyway thanks for responding.
And in the end doesn't it all come down to personal benefit?
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@ambkeb (782)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I think we've made progress in the last years. But yes...it does still exist. In the small community I live in...I know it does for a fact. My father is very much against interracial couples, and just about anything dealing with a person of another race. I remember growing up I had a lot of black friends...and my mom actually had to make my dad leave when I had friends over because he was a really big jerk to them. I am trying to raise my kids to look beyond color....but with my dad speaking his mind constantly around them...all I can do is hope that they learn what I am trying to teach them.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jun 08
My thing is I still can't believe there are still people that are that ignorant. i met a lot of part time racists around here. They talk about you to their friends but they try to kiss up to you when you get em one on one what up with that?
@ladysakurax (1161)
• Canada
29 Jun 08
racism is still present but it has decreased. We have been taught at school about this issue and we have this mentality that all people from any backgrounds are equal. However, there are still parents who hates other races and teach their children to do the same. Eventually, I believe racism will exist no more but it will require alot of time. As for myself, I am fine with everyone. People who are racist will only have this feeling of hatred inside them. I am not going to pretend my family is super cool as well. My dad is from couth America and my mom is Asian. I do cherish both of my ancesters but some members in my family simply look down on me. When I was in science field, they told me to give it up because someone with latino blood will never become a doctor. That was my aunt. She behaved like this as well as her husband. But her children and i get along very well. So I think it's just the old generation that has to get over it.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jun 08
So how long before we reach this state of perfection? When do you think these attitudes will dissolve and we no longer think along the color lines? I am not saying it isn't possible but is it possible in my lifetime? Do you think generations to come will teach the same prejudices?
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
2 Jul 08
And we are told in America that the Palestinians are evil and the enemy because of politics and our country sides with Jerusalem. When in fact they are the ones who stole this land from the people of Palestine. I try to explain to people how the media twists these events and make it seem however they wish. So we hate Palestine and have no reason to. Thus creating a mind state of racism towards these people.
@ladysakurax (1161)
• Canada
30 Jun 08
In this present generation, I think it's 75% no racism. My mom's generation was 40% no racism in the 70's. I would say the next generation which will be your children's or your grandchildren's if you want an almost perfection in North America. School is providing enough humanity to the young children and they will understand things which their parents don't. So you might not have a perfect non racism in your present life.
However, racism will still be present in certain place in the world and it's is impossible to make those attitude disolve. People think it's only about discrimination and races being look down as inferior...it's just not 100% of that. I would say 50% comes also from politics...something beyond my understanding. Like Israel who took some land from Palestine and create this grudge against each other. The hatred will be there forever i believe. Then there's also Tibet and China. I bet Tibet people tell their children that China don't want to give them freedom and to not ever trust them.
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@sudalunts (5523)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Yes, unfortunately racism still exists. I am African American, and for the first 20 years of my life, I had blinders on. I went to school with mostly white students, and was accepted, and actually most of my closest friends were white. I would see the marches on TV for equal equality, and think that that was another world, because I was not experiencing any of that.
Then one day, a white woman called me a N#####R, and I thought what is going on.
I live in the Northeast, NJ, I have never had a feeling of racist in me, I accept everyone, if we are like minded be it white black red etc I interact.
My husband was married to a White lady, her mother offered to pay him if he didn't marry her.
Even now, my husband and I socialize and do business with all races.
It's been said to me by other Blacks, that I act like I am white, what does that mean?????
Racism, is still alive, it is a taught behavior, because you are certainly not born a racist.
The media plays a big part in racist as well, example the Obama campaigns, speculating just because a person is black they will most likely vote for him. There are some birds of a feather stick together people out there, and they need to know that they are wrong, it is not an issue of the color of the skin, the agenda and platform is what matters.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jun 08
You know I was called a N****R for the first time in 2007. Didn't really bother me but I knew there was racism, this is just the first time I was actually called out of name though and I found it amusing to know people still even go there. I am a much bigger person because I could crush that guy and he's really not worth it to me. I'd rather see what he says next and laugh hard about it...
@TessWhite (3146)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Yes unfortunately it still exists. My ex is a racist. One of the many reasons I'm glad he is my ex. (and something I didn't realize before I married him) His favorite expression "everyone otta own one." Makes me sick. He also used to make fun of asians. Now we have two grandaughters who are half asian. I think he finally quit making fun of asians after that.
I live in south Texas. There are many mexicans in this area. And while I'm not going to get into a border war discussion here I can tell you that most of the "white" people here are very racist about mexican people. I can't stand that.
People are people, regardless of color. I wish the rest of the world could live with that viewpoint.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jun 08
Not just Texas. Im from the Bronx where we don't have too many Mexican people. I came to the South (SC) and I hate the way people refer to people from Mexico or Central America for that matter. Doesn't even matter where there from, they are all "Mexican" down here and people hate on them so much.
That attitude right there creates racism and prejudice though. Instead of trying to understand the culture they lash out and alienate them. Pisses me off.
@rane0328 (129)
• United States
29 Jun 08
We have made some progress but there is still alot of racism, a whole lot here in the south where i am from.. and not that far from home if u know what i mean, i hate being around the older ppl in my family b/c its "n***** this and n****** that" and i am not racist at all so that really offends me and i say things to them about it but i guess they are just stuck in their ways and thats how they were raised. i try not to judge anyone, but that is something i think is very stupid and just makes the ppl doing it and saying it seem very ignorant
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jun 08
And i appreciate your honesty. Fact is I don't blame you for the feelings of your elders and in fact I commend you for having an open mind. Many older people in the South are still stuck in the fifties and sixties and even worse many people of color in the South accept this to be righteous! They accept an inferior role to the "white man" to the point of degrading themselves. Not everyone but I found this attitude very prevalent since moving to the South.
@HISMINEOURS (77)
• United States
29 Jun 08
I think its great that you started this discussion. I do believe their is still racism and probably always will be to some extent unfortunately. I think we must remember though that on the whole most people are not racist. I wish everyone could live on a military post for atleast a couple years of their lives. My husband is in the army and we live in the most colorful neighborhoods in America on these posts. Your Neighbor, no matter what his/her color could be the one next to you in war watching your back. Our children all go to school together and it really is no issue to them. I'm not saying either that it doesn't exist here at all but it does seem to be less prevelant. Your forced to step out of your "comfort zone" and when you do I think you realize "Hey that person is a lot like me!" I am from a "mixed" marriage and we do't focus on either of our races. We just teach our children to be the best person they can be. In my book there is only 2 types of people "jerks" and "nice people"!
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@mansfield2008 (15)
• South Africa
29 Jun 08
It still very much exist.You find it all around you,at work,in public places,everywhere.It is saddening at the fact that especially in South Africa,where I am from they say it is a democratic country.I will say that only to a certain extent.Yes there is still racism in this day and age.Its like you say fifty years ago it was at least in the open whereas now they trying to hide the fact that it will always exist.If racism did not exist or had to be over the politicians would not have that strong support they had yesteryear.Why do you think they are incorporating all these new laws with regards to Black Economic Empowerment where companies has to employ a certain amount of coloureds,indians,whites and blacks.At schools or colleges you will find groups of the same race sticking to each other,and it goes on and on.Why can we not accept each others race and religion,it will make the world a much better place to live in.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
30 Jun 08
You ain't lying brother. I cannot expect for those of the same race or group to stick together, nor do I have a problem with this. It is when judgment is placed on others because of their race or religion, or whatever.
@urbandekay (18278)
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29 Jun 08
I cannot speak for US but here in the UK I would say it is rare, generally people rub along together. And whilst it does still occasionally occur most people regard racists as ignorant ijots. I myself have witnessed two clear examples of racism. The first was from a chap in a burger van I overhead insulting black people. The second was when I was walking down the road with a girl from Africa, two black men walking on the other side of the road started shouting at her calling her all sorts of dreadful names cause she was with a white man.
Anther African girl I know tells me that when she is here she prefers to hang out with white people because the black folks here look down on her and treat her bad.
It all seems a bit silly to me, people are just people and more similar than different where ever they hail from or look like.
all the best urban
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@underdogtoo (9579)
• Philippines
29 Jun 08
I believe that we as a race and I mean the human race have progressed somewhat but we are still a long way from being where we should be. We need to work out our differences in a rational way and do away with the intolerance and lack of openness. There is still too much distrust and hidden agenda in the world today, and too much poverty and suffering.
@Sillychick (3275)
• United States
29 Jun 08
We have definitely made progress, but racism is still very much alive and well. In fact, I think it is naive to believe that it will ever truly be eliminated. It still exists more than you think, but people are not as outspoken as they used to be because it is not socially acceptable.
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@qwedloki100 (103)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Yes. Even though most people will be like "I'm not racist" some people still involuntary judge people base on their race.
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