how many trolls do you think are on here?
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
United States
July 6, 2008 1:02am CST
trolls im meaning the people that just like to go around and start things and rate people badly just for kicks.. i havent had much of a problem with it but i hope that people that respond to mine dont think i am one of them since i know a few people seem to be apologetic that their opinion is different from mine which i dont care since i wouldnt have posted something if i didnt want opposing opinions too ya know?? but i know some people are just worried that maybe there are people that just will knock them down just for thinking differently.. to me unless that person is being abusive etc there should be no reason to "- or !" some one.. but that is just me.. do you fear trolls or fear that if you disagree you will get rated badly?? i know that there was a discussion about if you were worried about putting up topics but nothing about people replying (at least when i did a search) i know some discussions i have posted knocked me down in rating but i figure there are a lot more good people than bad so its wrong to deny the site of good discussions because a few people
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@greysfreak (1384)
• United States
6 Jul 08
I am thinking, or at least hoping that there are more nice people than mean people here. But I can definitely relate to this discussion. Since I have experienced this recently. I agree, unless a person is being really abusive or going against the rules, there is no reason to minue them or ! them. I've never used either of those. I actually give plusses to pretty much everyone I reply to, and a good amount of time I give plusses to responses I read. I go by how good they express their opinions and even if I don't agree, if someone makes me think I am definitely going to give them a plus. Otherwise, I don't do anything and I go on my way.
Anyway, I am pretty much over my rating loss, for the most part, sure.. it bugs me because I am pretty sure it's a troll, just because I have been here almost 2 weeks, and my rating was rising really fast, and the whole time I have been pretty open about my opinions. So I am trying not to take it too personally. I do expect different opinions here, but it would be nice if those people replied with why they disagreed, instead of taking the easy way out and minusing!
I really do think that 99% of people here are good. So I will just stick by my friends and the haters really don't matter.
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
yeah its easy to rise fast but once you get hard it takes awhile before it goes back up.. drove me nutz because it took DAYS of constant posting to get mine back to a 10.. im just waiting for it to happen again lol
@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
6 Jul 08
If I believed all the hype about
the power of the "trolls" around here,
I'd be quaking in my boots.
But if a person carefully reads
the MyLot terms of service they can easily
see that such "troll" behavior is in fact
easy recognized by the MyLot system and
defeated.
The TOS clearly states that rating a
quality discussion or quality response
as negative will only backfire on the person
doing it.
This protection was implemented by MyLot
after the "troll" issue came to bear awhile
back.
And while it might seem that many people
are being trolled, take into account
that some people don't even know they
are doing wrong.
Some people simply harbor ill opinions about
others and consider it to be a normal thing.
They don't realize that they are being offensive.
Maybe it's the way they were raised or brought up.
So rating such a person negative would be
within TOS, but the person receiving
the negative rating would simply assume they
had been attacked by the star trolls.
As for me, I don't use either the - or !
symbols.
Most times, discussions that are offensive
are deleted by others or caught by
board moderators.
Differences in opinions don't scare me.
So, I don't fear to post my honest but
tactful opinion.
Outright rudeness and mean behavior, flaming,
bad mouthing, generic discussions started
to "call out" another member are all acts
that can get members banned.
Think before you speak.
That's my motto.
I'm happy to hear that you are not
afraid to speak your mind or view other
differing opinions.
Other members could learn much from your
example!
Thank you for your insightful discussion.
Be well.
Happy posting.
BeautyQueen
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
do they really check though on if its a legit ! or -? i mean there should be so many i would think that it would be hard to do.. if they do then GREAT!!
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
7 Jul 08
i don't know how many trolls we have actually here at mylot... i guess i am lucky enough as well as i never been attacked by the trolls yet so far... hopefully never will... i just try to be a good person here and make friends with everybody... and i don't think what the trolls are doing is right... they are already hurting so many good users here until they leave the site and don't want to come back here again ever... take care and have a nice day...
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@cyberfluf (4996)
• Netherlands
20 Jul 08
There luckily are more good people than bad people on mylot but more trolls are adding and that's something that worries me. About 2 years ago I didn't even use the term troll because there was little trolling around here. Today I responded to a troll discussion and got a pretty mean response which I've decided not to read because it would just piss me off. I did feel it was a good thing to respond because I am reporting this guy and don't like to be sneaky about it.
It's only fair if they know who did it and why and mylot will be able to see that I did so too.
@cyberfluf (4996)
• Netherlands
21 Jul 08
True, that's why I allways add links to the discussion or respond straight away from the discussion and tell why I think this case should be looked at. It's up to mylot what they do with it.
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
21 Jul 08
the only reason i like the fact that mylot hides who reported people is because some people will go psycho and even if they deserve it they will retaliate and try to ruin peoples lives.. but of course that scenario is based that people reporting would actually only report people that deserve it which as we know 90% of people prob dont
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
knightrider i was asking about if people thought that there are a lot of trolls (trolls being the people that go around and rate people badly for fun or start mean replies etc) and does it make you worry when disagreeing with people if they will minus you and or make you worry when posting on a topic if it will hurt you badly because it might be something that some one might not agree with
@gjg418418 (8)
•
6 Jul 08
It is natural that mans have different opinions. Do not be afraid to express yourself, Do not be afraid to other's oppisite ideas.
@Wolfechu (1193)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Trolls in any sense of the word, on any website, tend to be mostly in the minority, at least if it's at least reasonably moderated. They just tend to be rather loud, and therefore sound like there's more of them than there are.
I wouldn't worry too much on here; If someone's going round giving nothing but bad ratings to stuff, I believe the system compensates by lowering the worth of their opinion in the figures.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
6 Jul 08
yeah mylot said something some where where they track what you rate and your patterns on here so hopefully they do and will keep people from being awful about it
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@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
6 Jul 08
Since I post and reply to mostly controversial topics, I have encountered trolls quite frequently. I don't care too much about my rating. It does bother me that they disrupt the discussion. I have no problem with people who disagree, but to post idiocy is disruptive and it takes away from the dialogue. That sort of thing harms the entire site.
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
yeah hopefully they dont drive people away from mylot and give the place a bad rep but i dont think that there are enough to do that
@subha12 (18441)
• India
7 Jul 08
I think i have been already attacked by them few months back i lost my reputation a big time. it was down from 97/100 to 64/100.its raelly bad. i think there can't be one. for which reason those sick people rate us negative I do not know as its beyond my imagination. i believe soem are there.
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
i dont see anything you could have said that could have offended anyone people are crazy
@carrotcake14 (361)
• Philippines
7 Jul 08
I love your topic! You are absolutely right. We don't have to please everybody. Just because we have different opinions doesn't mean it would degrade our own individuality. There's no such thing as right and wrong opinion . I think it all lies on how we perceive things. Ratings are not tat important as long as you know how to express what's on your mind. They say to argue with a fool means there are two. so if somebody is starting to irritate you just because they don't like what you say then just ignore him or her, but thank them because even though they you're very different at least they ave the guts to spend their time with you.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
i try to reply to every one (i sometimes cant think of anything to say back to my replies since a simple 'thanks' or 'lol' is against tos here) but i try to see others point of view.. if its something rude i just try to not pay it attention and hope that person doesnt start harassing the people that do answer
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
7 Jul 08
I just had a couple on a topic I started on gay marriage. Mylot got rid of them and that was the end of it. They seem to be drawn more toward the controversial subjects but I have seen them on some very innocent ones as well. I got accused of being one on some topic simply because my opinion didn't agree with hers. Apparently her star had been going down and she just assumed it was me. My different opinion was in no way rude or anything. Still it's not a nice thing to be accused of. I doubt anyone thinks your a troll. These guys stand out.
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
with all the members here it seems insane that a person would think they know who is secretly trolling and who is not..
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
6 Jul 08
moonlitmagikchild I dont think there are really very many'but somehow the few sure do do some mean damage to anyone whose star ten or nine offends them in some way. in two days I was trolled down to a six, then I got up to seven now am 8 and at 8000 some posts am staying there. I did not deserve to be minused but was done so, and others were too at the same time.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
jeeze big drop!! glad you are climbing back up!!
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
i have only been really knocked down once to where i dropped a star and that was after two post that i guess were too controversial to some people but other than that it hasnt been enough to lose my star rating but i have seen it go up and down here and there
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
7 Jul 08
There are trolls at every site like this. They get their kicks trying to make others look bad and themselves look good. They are to be pitied. But they don't worry me one bit. If I get rated downward, what difference does it make?
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
at least this place isnt as bad as another place i was at where they just took over the whole site and no one could talk about anything
@chocolateiscreams (138)
• Philippines
7 Jul 08
one of the good things I've observed here on mylot is that most people posting here are courteous, and civil. they're nice, friendly, open-minded and knowledgeable.
I haven't met trolls here as I have on other forums sites.
...I try hard to reply to as many discussion forums as possible. So, my friends would also reply on mine too... It's not really the ratings, that makes me feel bad if ever I don't recieve any replies... It's the dissapointed that i didn't get to talk about that topic, I thought was really good.
And I good debate is never bad in any forum discussion, its what makes the topic good- when opposing opinions are recognized. And by the way, it's all in a friendly manner and exchanging of ideas.
^^,
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
yeah i try to answer every ones too.. im a couple days behind on some people lol
@robert19ph (4577)
• Philippines
6 Jul 08
Hello moonlitmagikchild,
I think there are few trolls here in mylot. I have not seen anyone yet but I do see heated argument on some discussions and they are a breeding ground for trolls. If I disagree with someone opinions I don't give him/her a negative ratings because of the opinions. These is a discussions sites, so everybody is entitled to his/her opinions whatever that is. I don't usually give negative ratings. I usually a give a plus ratings. If someone is rude an abusive rating is better to give that a negative ratings.
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
yeah i wonder if more people would be open if there wasnt a rating system
@darkangel079 (1498)
• United States
7 Jul 08
Well this is an odd topic. I haven't had any problems with having what you call trolls that just rate my discussions or what not. Keep track of your discussions hoping they get responded back to. Don't mind the ratings, just hope you don't get trolls that flame war or insult. There's tons of resources to look at to find out what discussions attract people, also easier for people to find according to their interests leaving tags. So no I don't fear your term of trolls and it doesn't bug me at all.
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@blackmantra_x (2732)
• Philippines
6 Jul 08
good day.. I don't know I just hope they won't ruin those beautiful discussions. I'm not one of them
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
yeah i hope the quality of post doesnt lessen from them either
@guybrush (4658)
• Australia
6 Jul 08
I don't think I've encountered trolls on myLot YET - but another site I go to has certain members who never suggest topics or comment on topics but show their faces purely to insult and vilify people they've taken a dislike to. I haven't been on myLot long enough to notice people like that, but there must be those who give negative ratings if someone disagrees with them. I respect people having different opinions, and wouldn't rate them negatively for that, as it would be boring if we all just agreed with eachother - but I would give a negative rating if someone was insulting, personal or abusive. I don't fear trolls - there's nothing to fear from cowards who are hiding behind anonymity - but it's a shame they might prevent people saying what they really feel or being honest in their opinions.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Jul 08
its annoying that you can be persecuted for opinions though.. i some times wonder after i submit something if the next day i will notice something lol
@lazeebee (5461)
• Malaysia
6 Jul 08
Yup, you're right. We all have our own opinions, so I think it's rather close-minded to rate someone's response as negative, just bcos they don't agree with me.
Some mylotters seem apologetic - I think these are nice people, who do not want to offend. It could be they are discussing a sensitive issue, and they won't want anyone to get worked up over their opinions.
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