I Am So Disappointed In Bill Clinton. He's Not Campaigning For Barack Obama.

I disagree. All Ex-Presidents try their hardest to re-elect the nominee of their party. No one would question his loyalty to his wife if Bill Clinton campaigned for Barack Obama. I think he is angry and that his feeling are hurt. He needs to act like the senior statesman that he is. Lloyd

It wouldn't be disloyal to his wife at all. Even Hilary said she will put a 150 percent into supporting Barack's campaign. Who care's what the media will say; everyone knows they are full of crap. Bill needs to take the high road now.

I think Hilary would understand if Bill is disloyal to her. I don't think she would fuss too much about it.

There is nothing wrong with the generation of today. Just look at the Republican side of things. John McCain beat out the popular Mayor of New York City, Rudy Gulliani. Gulliani now supports John McCain. John McCain beat out Mitt Romney. Romney attended McCain's campaign office opening and is now considered a solid Vice Presidential prospect for John McCain. Bill Clinton should be doing what all Ex-President have done and that is to support the current Democratic nominee. He already have critics on the right. How would his legacy look to have the same about of critics on the left? Lloyd

Not every republican who ran is supporting McCain. The ones you mentioned are, but Alan Keyes hasn't had a kind word to say about him. He's been extremely critical.

"Not every republican who ran is supporting McCain. The ones you mentioned are, but Alan Keyes hasn't had a kind word to say about him. He's been extremely critical." All the major players in the Republican party are supporting John McCain. To put it plain and simple, Alan Keyes, has very little clout. Alan Keyes is extremely critical of anyone who doesn't agree with him lock, stock and barrel. Lloyd

The hilarious and ironic part is, this is exactly what happened for a little known governor of Arkansas. He came out of nowhere to beat an sure thing incumbent. I guess Billy Boy just hates his own strategy being used against him.

There may be some irony involved, but I don't find anything funny about their behavior. You make a great point because Barack has used many of Bill and Hillary's previous tactics. It's called politics and they should know it better than most. "Billy Boy" needs to get his act together and do it soon. Lloyd

I agree with you. The Clinton's thought they were next in line for the throne. And here comes this so-called "lightweight" stealing their thunder. Well they need to get over it and follow Democratic protocal and support the Democratic nominee. I'm getting really angry at their behavior. Lloyd

Hillary's 23 million dollar debt is of her own doing. She spent lavishly, believing that she would be the eventual democratic nominee. I worked for Barack Obama out of his Philadelphia headquarters. You wouldn't believe how cost conscious his campaign was. The food we ate was made by volunteers. All of the phones in our phone bank were cell phones of volunteers. Volunteers took out the trash and cleaned the offices. From what I've heard, Hillary's campaign headquarter workers were treated to catered food. Many of the vendors that catered to the Clinton campaign still haven't been paid. I think she just mismanaged her campaign finances and Barack Obama managed his correctly. Lloyd

Well if it's Bill and Hillary's business in regards to who they support and they don't want to help Barack Obama get elected, then they should keep their hands off of campaign contributions made by people like me and pay off their debt with their own money. They need to completely break all ties to Barack Obama and start behaving like a former ex-President and ex-First Lady. They need to just go away and stay out of our business if that is the case. Lloyd

Yep that is right. That is how it should be. And if anyone sent Hillary money to help pay her debt, you must have plenty of extra money - I'm in debt, please send me some. I think it was ludicrious that Obama asked the American people, with all we are all going through now with high gas prices and foreclosures and low wages etc, to send her money to help pay off her debt. IF I was going to vote for him prior, after him saying that I wouldn't. Why do I have to pay her debt that she ran up on something she wanted? ANd if that is the way his thinking is, who's debt will I be expected to pay off next? Why don't I get any help paying my debts and all I got are the bare necessities? I bet she never stayed a single night in a Motel 6 but always in a high prices lavious hotel suite. ANd of course doesn't even know what a "value meal" is while to some of us that is the special treat of the week.

You are so very, very wrong. Have you ever paid attention to a Presidential campaign? Those who compete for either the Democratic or Republican nomination always support the winner of the primary election. What went on behind the scenes is what happened in front of the whole world. Barack Obama beat Hillary Clinton in a free and fair election. Nothing more, nothing less. This is not the American way when it comes to Presidential politics. Lloyd

I don't think that's always the case Lloyd. In fact, I'm pretty sure McCain was more than a little brutal towards Bush in 2000 after losing to him in the primaries. He got a lot of flack for it.

First of all I didn't say that you were right or wrong, I simply expressed an opinion...mine. I would say that you should be careful with making judgements, this forum is a place for people to share with each other--so no opinion is either right or wrong. Secondly, if you had said that Hillary was not supporting Obama then I would have agreed with you since she was the one running. Bill, as such, is a private citazen and is allowed the right to support or not support whom ever he choses. I wonder would we have said the same thing if Hillary would have won the nomination. Not every EX Democratic President is on the campaigne trail for Obama.

Hello Lloyd, Just a friendly word of caution here, Lloyd: You're putting the horse before the cart. Obama is not the winner -- yet. He is considered the 'presumptive nominee'. Yet, there's a plan a cookin' to force the August Dem. Convention into an 'Open Nominating Convention'. So, Clinton's supporters (including her husband) are not on board with Sen. Obama being considered the "winner". This battle is not yet over -- or so says 2,000,000 Democrats! (And, they claim their numbers are growing rapidly.)

I agree with you 100%. Both Bill and Hillary should support the winner. It's more than a duty to support the winner. It's the right thing to do. Like you, I am starting to question his character. And I don't like what I'm seeing. My theory that they want Barack loose seems to be picking up steam. It won't work. We will not support Hillary under those circumstances. Lloyd

You are right. If he doesn't want to back the candidate he shouldn't be forced to. But I just don't understand why. He knows how important this election is to the Democratic Party. Just look at the millions of newly registered democrats. I know Barack Obama would work hard to get Hillary Clinton elected if things were reversed. Lloyd

Hello Lloyd, "All will be forgiven and we can move forward." Sadly, we all know that that is not true! Forgiven does not imply forgotten!!! And, few have better long-term memories than scorned politicians! Petty rivalries, wounded feelings, voting blocks created and dissolved to accomodate or defend against these kinds of ideological and personal rivalries are all reasons why our Congress has a measly 9% approval rating. AND, Clinton, McCain, and Obama are all members of our current Congress. You give these polticians WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT, Lloyd!

"Sadly, we all know that that is not true! Forgiven does not imply forgotten!!! And, few have better long-term memories than scorned politicians!" "You give these polticians WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT, Lloyd!" ---------------------------------------------------------- ladyluna. Even though we disagree about everything. I must admit you are the best. Thanks for being my friend here at myLot and making my blood boil. lol Lloyd

Yes there is very much at stake in this election. I certainly wish that the candidates could just stick to the issues affecting the American people. I believe that Barack Obama has tried to stick to the issues, but he has to respond to all the smear tactics aimed at him. Maybe he should play "ugly", but who does that benefit. It only clouds the issues. If Bill Clinton really believes that Barack Obama doesn't deserve to be the next President of the United States he should just say so and get it over with. All will be forgiven and we can move forward. He just needs to remember the support he received during his most difficult times. Lloyd

If Hillary's lost is hard for him to swallow, he needs to get over it. This is one of the most important elections in our lifetime and he needs to get on board. If any action or inaction by either Bill or Hillary causes Barack Obama to loose this election, there is no chance she will ever be elected to the Presidency of the United States. Both Bill and Hillary need to get on board right now. Lloyd

The actions or non-actions of both Bill and Hillary are creating some division in the Democratic Party. They need to get over it and get on board. Lloyd

You're right in there. If there's no unity inside the party it would have a hrd time winning the game this time and the republicans might just get this as an opportunity to overshadow the democrats candidate.

Hi Howard. I also hate the way these campaigns are being run. But Barack Obama can't change the rules in the middle of the game. At this time I think Barack Obama is the best man for the job. And if he is not, then he can be voted out in 4 years. What I do know is that he can't possibly do as much harm to our country as this administration has done over the last 8 years. You make a great point. If you are not going to go out and fully support Barack Obama, then why are you asking people like me, to help you pay off your campaign debts? If Bill and Hillary really believed in her attempt to become President of the United States, then they should pay off her debts with their own money. Afterall , their income was aroung 90 million dollars. Lloyd

Bill did a great job as President. He did hurt Hillary in the primaries by running his mouth. Remember Bill Clinton's comment that it was a "fairy tale" that Obama has consistently opposed the Iraq war from the start. "Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen," Bill Clinton said. That really made a lot of Obama's supporters angry. Remember when Bill dismissed Obama's victory (and the importance of the vote in South Carolina) by pointing out that, hey, so what, that other black guy won here, too. He was referring to Jesse Jackson. That really made a lot of Obama's African-America supporters angry. He might have been a factor in Hillary loosing the election. So he has no reason to be mad a Barack. Lloyd

I agree with you that Chelsey was the voice of reason when it came to the Hillary campaign. She was calm and collected. I was very surprised at her composure and ability to communicate. I wouldn't be surprised it she one day became the President of the United States. Lloyd

So true. I really wanted it to be Hillary and Barack with Barack as VP. I rather doubt that Barack would choose Hillary as VP. Some times I wish Bill would just shut up. Chelsey did a much better job speaking on behalf of her mother.

I read it in the Telegraph. Here is the link: http://tinyurl.com/4byxln Bill and Barack did have a telephone conversation, but it seems as if it was just a publicity stunt on behalf of the Clintons. I'm sorry to hear about your mother. I hope that she feels much better. I'm like you. I never expected him to act in this fashion. Your $5 contribution is what makes Obama's campaign so special. Finally the "little" people like you and me can make a difference. Lloyd

You're right about how little contributions like ours makes this campaign special. That's why I couldn't understand why there was so much controversy when Barack Obama decided not to use public financing. For once, a candidate doesn't want to spend taxpayer dollars and everyone flipped out. I'm glad your mother is doing well. Keep an eye on her and do the best you can to make her comfortable. Lloyd

Thanks for the link, Lloyd, I had heard that story but I guess I thought that since they had spoken on the phone that maybe it wasn't true or that they'd worked things out. If they haven't then I'll repeat it again, I'm as disappointed in Bill as you are! You're right about how little contributions like mine are what makes tis campaign special. That's why it really makes me mad when people accuse Obama of "flip-flopping" regarding public campaign financing because he's absolutely right when he says this IS public financing the way it should be, little people like us can give a small amount because we WANT to and he won't be beholding to a bunch of fat-cats! My mom's much better, thank you very much. She gave us a scare by acting confused and disoriented so we finally got her to go to the ER by ambulance. At first it wasn't something I could really "put my finger one", if you get the drift, but as someone who is with her 24/7 I could see that SOMETHING wasn't right. My daughter has been a CNA for years and she said right away she suspected a UTI which is quite common among the elderly and often causes confusion in patients and that's what her tests showed at the hospital. However, they wanted to be thorough so they also did a CT scan of her brain and saw what they thought to be a sign of bleeding, therefore they suspected she'd had a stroke even though she showed none of the usual signs. They transferred her to a hospital that has a trauma center of 24 hour specialists about 20 miles away where it was determined that what they'd seen at our local ER was something that had been seen years ago on an earlier MRI and was nothing to worry about. There we were with a 91 year old woman who uses a walker and the only way to get her home in our van, which we'd taken so we could all go in one vehicle from the local hospital and we'd assumed she'd be kept at least overnight! All's well that ends well, and we got her in and out of the van and home safe and sound and tucked into her own bed - at after 3 am, the latest she'd been out for about 30 years, I'd guess! She's taking antibiotics now and is just about as good as new, thank God! Annie

If Bill Clinton honestly feels that Barack Obama would make a poor president, then he should say so. I don't think the Clintons are getting way too much crap. They are the ones who played dirty during the primaries. Barack Obama showed nothing but respect for Hillary Clinton. He never once smeared her like both Bill and Hillary did to him. Bringing Hitler into this conversation is just rediculous. I'll let "the man" make his own decisions, but don't ask for a penny of my contributions to pay off his wife's debt. Lloyd

Bill Clinton wouldn't DARE say he thinks Obama would make a poor president. If he did the entire democrat national committee may very well burn him and Hillary at the stake. Just look at what's going on. Hillary has already campaigned with Obama, and Bill Clinton has actually claimed he wants to campaign with and for Obama but apparently after missing one fundraiser that's not good enough for people. So Hillary campaigns with Obama, Bill says he will, and you guys are so freaking angry and disappointed in him for what? Not trying hard enough? Don't say all that and then pretend you'd be ok with it if he had said he thinks Obama would be a poor president. You'd call him a traitor to his party and vow never to support anything he or Hillary did. As everyone's saying, he needs to "Get on Board" and "Fall in Line". There are already democrats who want Joe Lieberman kicked out of congress for supporting McCain and he's just a senator.

It's more than just missing one fundraiser. He's been silent since Barack Obama captured the Democratic nomination. What happened? Is he still mad that Hillary didn't win it? If so, he needs to get over it. As far as Joe Lieberman is concerned, we all know who and what he is loyal to. Sometimes I wonder if he cares about the financial and human cost of the Iraq war. He should be run out of the Democratic Party. Look at who his friends are. Why not jut join their party and get it over with. Lloyd

First of all I am a hugh supporter of Al Gore. However Al Gore is not the Democratic nominee for the Presidency of the United States. So in my opinion, a vote for Al Gore at this time is a vote for John McCain. Is that what you really want to do? Just think about you are saying. Where did you get your information about Barack Obama having ties to terrorist Nations. I'd really like to read about those ties. I believe it's time for a change in American politics. Give Barack Obama a chance. If it doesn't work out to your satisfaction, then you always have the option of voting him out in 4 years. Lloyd

It's all about loyalty. They need to get off of their a**ss and do what's right for the Democratic Party and the America people. There is no doubt in my mine that Barack Obama would be out campaigning for Hillary if things were reversed. It's called party loyalty. There is no excuse for their behavior. Lloyd

it's not the question of opinions or likes or dislikes. It's the question of agreement and loyalty. Bill and hilary are both in the democratic party and I believe they have agree to support the party's nominee. If the situation is reverse and Hilary won, I would expect obama to accept it and support her because that's what a member of an organization should and must do. Isn't it? It's like in your coming presidential election whoever wins whether Obama or Mccain, the followers from their respective party should and must support the winner, The President of the United States whether they want to or not. My 1 cent.

You would thought he would have at least made mention of Barack Obama during his trip to Africa since Barack's father is from Kenya. I'm now looking at Bill Clinton as a sore looser and someone who only looks out for himself. Maybe Barack Obama is better off without Bill Clinton's support. Lloyd

You are so right Lloyd.

Bill does seem to be acting like a spoiled brat. I read that he might be willing to campaign for Barack Obama only if he can campaign in Black neighborhood in order to restore his image. Well that is unacceptable. He needs to be helping Barack Obama in other areas. He has to finally come to grips that Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee for the Presidency of the United States. It should be an honor, even for a ex-President, to go out and campaign for the potential next President of the United States of America. Lloyd

I don't see why he doesn't believe in Barack Obama. It's a fact that Barack's and Hillary's positions are very similar. What have you read and seen on the news that makes you say he is "bad"? I guess you heard the smears against him. Do you really believe he is a Muslim? Do you really believe that he attended a Madrasa? What have you read and seen on the news that makes you say he is "bad"? I'd really like to know. I'd really, really, really like to know. Lloyd

It does seem as if the party is over. It's just ashame that he appears so bitter. Somehow I thought he would get over it. As an ex-President he should know you don't always get everything you want. I guess he was looking forward to to spending more time in the White House and his dreams were squashed by Barack Obama. After his recent public comments, basically stating that Barack Obama isn't ready for the White House, I'm kind of glad he has chosen this path and decided to remain bitter and not actively support the Democratic Nominee for the Presidency of the United States of America. Thanks for your reply. Lloyd

I know he will get on board if Hillary gets the Vice President slot. But it should take that for him to support Barack Obama. Just look at how many people supported him during his trials and tribulations. He ought to show some appreciation for the Democratic support he received. Lloyd

McCain has a lot of followers. As far as I'm concerned, he is part of the problem and not part of the solution. Look at what all his time in office has gotten us. Barack is a new face with fresh ideas. That is what we need at this time. And after 4 years, if he proves to be as bad as Bush, we can vote him out. Barack's effort to lower Hillary's debt is very honorable. You would think here husband would be thankful. Afterall, he has the ability to write a check today and wipe out her debt. It's time for a change. We should give it a try. Lloyd

I agree with you! I really don't think voters look at what they have done while they had the chance to make a change. It's not like Obama and McCain just appeared on the scene and decided to run for president. I know that a lot of people are going for McCain, but I don't see anything new and special in him. I'm not expecting miracles because no one is Jesus, but I would like to see that the president is fighting for our country to be better instead of being so concerned with another country's problems. We have enough of our own and we have no one to help us. I'm glad you posted this discussion. I hope some people will actually research and have a good reason for their choice.