Of birth controls and religion
By juliefaye
@juliefaye (1214)
Philippines
July 16, 2008 1:54am CST
The catholic bishops is threatening to raise the issue of the so-called anti-life bills before the Supreme Court should they be passed and even issued a pastoral letter where they said Catholic political leaders who vote for death bills should be denied Holy Communion.
The controversial bill? an Act Providing for a National Policy on Reproductive Health, Responsible Parenthood and Population Development.
In my opinion, third world countries like us should be more aware of the consequences of having a growing population. Though the bishops are saying that there were natural methods of birth control, but let's face it that sometimes it fails. These holiness should widen their eyes and should see the poverty at the tip of their nose. We know that there were uneducated parents who uses the bible verse go and multiply and making babies are their past time.
I know there were pros and cons in this issue and denying a holy communion is just too harsh. With or without the bill, parents have the choice and all they need is to be educated. Anyway, have you seen a congressman queueing for a communion?
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@spyjob (214)
• Philippines
16 Jul 08
The rules being followed by the bishops are those written by Padre Damaso. LOL. When abacus is being used for addition and subtraction, they can't see that the rules is no longer applicable in computer age. Controlling birth gives the family to enjoy the whole piece of pie.
A threat of denying a communion doesn't affect our lawmakers for they don't know the road to church.
@juliefaye (1214)
• Philippines
16 Jul 08
Ha ha ha! you're right here, it's like threatening the dogs that they can never eat bones when what they are eating nowadays are Alpo.
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@polgeram (83)
• United States
10 Aug 08
LOL and LOL again!
While I very much agree with you about lawmakers not knowing the road to church (except when it's campaign time!), those that are true church goers and good people should remember that they're representing their ENTIRE constituency, not just Catholics.
@Trinibreeze (2)
• Trinidad And Tobago
16 Jul 08
Religion set apart,logically speaking how could a group of unmarried, financially supported by the Church and not having monthly bills because you own nothing men understand the need for birth control. On the simplest and most basic level one cannot expect these people who live in a not to mention underpopulated city (Vatacan City) to feel the strain of the average family. Across the world the looming food shortages, in creasing gas prices and competition for living spaces are overwhelming. Families are just not able to provide for an additional mouth. Maybe in this progressive world we live in it may suit them then, to solve all of the other co-dependent problems of the world if we were to surrender this necessity ?
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@juliefaye (1214)
• Philippines
17 Jul 08
They simply doesn't understand what they are doing. How can they say that contraceptives are wrong when they didn't know how to raise a child? much less the pain felt by parents who cannot afford to give a decent life to their children.
@polgeram (83)
• United States
10 Aug 08
But you're forgetting: "Ask and ye shall receive; Seek and ye shall find; Knock and the door shall be opened." Any true believer in Christ will believe that all their needs will be taken care of. Kids are a blessing and God will make sure they're taken care of.
Bullsh1t!
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
16 Jul 08
I live in Canada which is a developed Nation. One of the reasons Canada is a developed nation is because we have separated Church and State. The Catholic Religion does not care about over populating a country. Catholic Churches in Canada are being closed because there are not enough Catholics to fill them. Also its becoming very difficult for the Catholic Church to attract enough Priests. People in Developed countries are not as Religious as those in underdeveloped countries. The Church as a business does not encourage its people to use Birth control and be happy in Life. They want every baby possible no matter how negatively it effects the Parents.
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@juliefaye (1214)
• Philippines
17 Jul 08
Religions became popular in third world countries like us and you can see them like mushrooms everywhere. People pray because they are hoping for miracles to happen--asking for mercy from God without doing anything to alleviate their situation. I think religion is becoming a grown business nowadays.
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@longbangod (1785)
• Philippines
16 Jul 08
For the last question, my answer is NO, I didn't even see a congressman in person, hehe.
My opinion with regards to the Holy Communion is to allow everybody to receive it. I think everyone being a Christian and considered as children of God has the right to receive the body and blood of Christ, and I don't even agree with some of the priest's who are refusing to let illegitimate children to receive Holy Communion, after all its not their fault to be born outside marriage.
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@juliefaye (1214)
• Philippines
17 Jul 08
Hi Long,
Welcome home my friend!
I am not aware that there is such a thing as denying communion to illegitimate children. How hypocrite are those priests if they really deny this to children of God. There's no such illegitimate children, only illegitimate parents and they should put this in their rotten minds.
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@polgeram (83)
• United States
10 Aug 08
There's a whole laundry list of reasons why the church (priests) can deny communion to a person. Just another way for the church to control people and remind them that they're sinners while the priests and bishops are perfect and able to judge the sinfulness of others.
@magojordan (3252)
• Philippines
16 Jul 08
I really think that the church should open their eyes on the reality that all of us are facing right now. They're too closed minded to accept that methods as such should really be used (except abortion of course) to control population simply because the resources in this world are really not enough anymore to feed more and more people. Also I think that it's a worse sin if you produce a lot of children only that in the end you don't have enough to feed them or you don't raise them well because you can't handle them all. Regarding about giving communion, well I think that even before this controversial bill the politicians here shouldn't be given because most of the mare corrupt.
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@juliefaye (1214)
• Philippines
16 Jul 08
The CBCP spokesperson commented that artificial birth controls are tantamount to abortion or something like that, the reason why they are against it. You are very right in saying that its a sin having more children which you can't fed. Souls that became a liability to the community because parents can't raise them well.
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@sweethopia (65)
• Philippines
16 Jul 08
I really think the Catholic church has bigger problems to worry about than couples trying to limit the number of their children. (Sighs...)
For a predominantly Catholic nation with tons of religious people we sure are a screwed up nation. Why can't the Catholic church stop Catholic political leaders from thieving? Last time I checked "Do Not Steal" is still part of the 10 commandments.
I have had it with the Catholic church and do not consider myself Catholic anymore even if I was baptized one. My in-laws are frustrated (they are devout Catholics) but I don't see any sense in going to a church that instead of focusing on love, sharing, and all those Christian values insist on implementing STUPID rules.
@juliefaye (1214)
• Philippines
17 Jul 08
I still go to church every Sunday and do my obligation as Catholic. Our faith should not be affected by the actuations of these religions leaders as they are also human committing mistakes. These priests are hard core one and let them be thrown in the fires of hell.
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@rsa101 (38148)
• Philippines
17 Jul 08
This is were I also b set aside my catholic faith as I truly believe that we need to control population as it has a big impact on the way our economy is slowed down by overpopulation. I think the church should reconsider their stand on it or must allow the government to do the necessary action to solve this ballooning population we have. I grew up with my parents believing about family planning and it did had an impact on us as we were able to cope with our education as we were only two in the family and we practically grew comfortable though not financially rich but we were able to survive and finish our schoolings in time. I could not imagine if we were a big family back then.
@setroc (853)
• Philippines
16 Jul 08
they should just shut their mouth and stop meddling on something that if given to them wont take the responsibility of, they want more babies, alright they should feed them, these people only talk the talk but doesnt walk the walk, ive once see a beggar got chase out of the church by a security guard because the priest told him to do so, wow what an amazing display of holiness, so what if they wont give communion, what is that anyway, do you really believe that your own salvation relies solely on that ritual, what do these priest think people are, stupid, that they can scare into denying commonsense and just accept whatever they said just by denying them communions, and there was also that priest, forgot the name, and i think its not worth remembering anyway,that said that the government should stop giving those 500 pesos monthly subsidies coz it will only encourage those that are given it into relying into charities rather than working, for the first time the government finally shares its loots, it aint that much but atleast theyre sharing some, and that priest wants to deny them that much needed amount of money,that priest who is recieving a monthly salary and probly from a well to do family since becoming a priest aint cheap, wants the government to stop giving those people subsidies, those people who sometimes get their meal out of the trash, wow, who the f word do these people think they are, whats the use that a priest has anyway, a streetsweeper has more use to us than a priest
@juliefaye (1214)
• Philippines
17 Jul 08
Makes me laugh with your rant here my friend... so said it right and makes me think twice between the streetsweeper and a priest.
I remember a nun in a hospital run by them.. my cousin is about to deliver her baby and the pain is becoming worse makes her yell. A nun came to her and shout at her to keep quiet as she is disturbing them at the other room. My cousin fight back yelling at her -- who are you, you didn't even know how to get pregnant much more the pain! she turned her back and leave the room. Funny how these religious people used to be the role model of the society behave like this.
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