Separation of Church and State

I agree 100%! But, do you agree that there should be separation? Or are you happy with the way things are?

I am soo not happy with the way things are. There needs to be a separation. It seems to me that the government is over looking the freedom of religion amendment and trying to make us all follow there religion by using it to make laws.

"I honestly dont think there is a separation of church and state as much as people say that there is." Think that all you want, but if you read the stuff the founding fathers wrote, it's obvious what their intentions were. "If there was why are so many of our laws based on christian beliefs." lol, none of our laws are based on Christian beliefs. Let's look at the ten Commandments (paraphrased): 1. Worship God and only God: not a law. It's perfectly legal to worship other gods, or none at all. 2. Taking God's name in vain: not a law. It's perfectly legal to do this. 3. Keep holy the Sabbath: not a law. It's perfectly legal to live your whole life without doing anything special on Saturday/Sunday/etc. 4. Honor your parents: not a law. Even if a child is a minor, they do not have to honor/obey abusive parents, for example, and will be put into foster care if they are bad parents. 5. No murder: it is illegal to murder, but societies have had rules against murder LONG before Christianity even existed, so that doesn't count as being "based on Chrsitian beliefs". 6. No adultery: not a law. It's not illegal to cheat on your spouse. 7. No stealing: see #5. It's illegal, but theft was 'against the rules' in society long before Christianity existed. 8. No lying: not a law. It's not illegal to lie unless you commit perjury, and it's hardly "Christian based" for perjury to be a bad thing--systems of laws existed long before Christianity. 9. No coveting others' spouses: not a law. It's perfectly legal to desire others' spouses. 10. No coveting others' goods: not only is this not a law, but in fact it's the main driving force behind capitalism. Coveting is what keeps the economy going. No self-respecting "Christian nation" would not have the first commandment not be a law, yet it isn't in the US. Then of course there is the Treaty of Tripoli, which was passed unanimously and without controversy by Congress in the late 1700s. It contained a clear statement that the US was not founded upon the Christian religion. Obviously, if this was untrue, there would have been SOME sort of outrage against it. However, no one voted against the treaty, and there were never any protests against Article 11 of the treaty, which contains the aforementioned declaration. In conclusion, you're full of crap. :)

Many constitutional laws need to applied more often. Our government openly spits in the face important constitutional laws every year, and they get away with it. Not only do the violate the amendments, but the articles that set up their powers as well. DOMA and the Patriot Act are the two main examples of their unlawful seizure of power. Sure, it should be used more in the decision making process. I just wish we'd have an honest politician willing to do such a thing.

But don't you think an improvement in its APPLICATION in the USA is necessary? I mean, how well is this followed by our government? As a small example, every year the Federal government along with the state governments sponsor a National Day of Prayer.

I agree with you. We need to be able to practice whatever faith we want, and not be forced to follow the dictates of other religions.