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Would you tell them how to spend it?
By Jess
@JJ4Ever (4693)
United States
July 30, 2008 2:03pm CST
If you gave money to a friend in need, should you be able to tell them how to spend it? If I were to give money out of the kindness of my heart to help a friend in need, should I be able to tell them how to spend it since I’m trying to help them? If I knew a friend had a specific need such as a car repair, if I gave him or her the money and he or she spent it on illegal drugs or something along those lines, I obviously wouldn’t be very happy since that wasn’t my intent in giving them the money. What do you think? If you were to give money to someone in need, would you expect to be able to tell them how to spend it? The money is a gift to that person, so perhaps they’d spend it however they wanted anyway; it depends on the person. On the other hand, that person could have every right to spend it however they want since it was a gift. Share your thoughts.
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29 responses
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
30 Jul 08
We ran into this problem with my stepson so my husband decided that the next time he needs a loan for something specific, my husband will go with him to pay for the part or repair or whatever it is that he needs.
It's nice to want to help people but, unfortunately, once the money is in their hands, you really don't have the right to dictate how they spend it.
@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
31 Jul 08
Hi there, I have to say that I agree with Eb. I really like your husband's reasoning. Once the money is given away, you can try but you have absolutely no control over where the money is going. You can only hope it'll be spent on the right things. Something similar happened to my coworker a few months ago. It's pretty long, though, so I think I'm going to start a new discussion about it right now to see what everyone else thinks. A coworker of mine actually experienced kind of the same situation as your husband did, and the results were pretty surprising. Thanks for your response!
@checapricorn (16061)
• United States
30 Jul 08
Hi JJ,
It's very rare for me to give money to my friends since I was the bread winner in the family when I was single..I asked my Dad to stopped working and I will just handle everything..My friends are aware of this so, when I want to help it will only to my closest friend whom I know needs it for a very valid reasons and not for other stuff..
So, I will only be choosing whom to help, I can't allow anyone to harm themselves using my hard earned money!
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
31 Jul 08
Hi! Your reasoning is very down-to-earth, and I agree with you. You're used to what it feels like to have to earn money to pay for things for yourself as well as others in your family. You're a hard worker who doesn't just give away money to someone who wouldn't deserve it, especially unless you know exactly where it's going. They need to put it to good use knowing the person who worked so hard for it! I'm glad you handle your money well because that makes you rich in the end! (LOL) If you don't know where your money is going, then you shouldn't have to spend the money in the first place...that's the way I look at it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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@ebsharer (5515)
• United States
30 Jul 08
I have a lot to say on this subject but not a lot of time so here is the short of it.
"Money lent is money spent" that has to be the best quote I ever heard!
I am the type that if I lend some one money its only because I can afford to lose it. There is a reason they had to ask. The way I figure it if I lend some one money and I don't get it back - thats what I figured would happen. If I do get it back then great, awesome, fantastick!
If some one asks me for money for a spicific reason then I DO expect them to use it for that. I would say some thing to them if they didn't use it for the reason they asked.
@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
31 Jul 08
Good one, Eb! I have to say that I've either never heard that quote before or I haven't heard it in a really long time. That's a great saying to apply to this discussion because it's more than the truth! I like your reasoning and sincerely appreciate your contribution to this discussion. Wow, your response is very exciting. I think you hit the nail on the head! Great ideas and thanks a bunch.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
31 Jul 08
By the way, I completely agree with you that people shouldn't give away money they can't afford to lose. That goes with borrowing or giving. It doesn't matter for what purpose because if you can't afford to lose it and give it to someone anyway, you're in trouble! (LOL) Thanks again. I love your response...it's very inspiring.
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@schulzie (4061)
• United States
30 Jul 08
If you were to give it as a gift it is not your right to tell them how to spend it. It is up to them to spend it as they need or want. [u]Once you have given something away then it is not yours anymore and is theirs to do with what they want.
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How would you feel if you really needed money and a friend gave you money as a gift but then proceeded to tell you how to spend it? For example, what if you needed the money for groceries but your friend told you that you were going to buy clothing with it instead? Wouldn't that upset you as it was a gift they gave you and now they are trying to dictate how you spend your gift?
I always try to see things from the other person's perspective all the time.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
1 Aug 08
Thank you for two excellent points and perspectives. I have to agree with both of you because it's all in how you look at it. Schulzie, I like your answer because you look at it from the needy person's viewpoint to consider how he or she would feel being the recipient of much needed money and then being told what to do with it. Faerie, I agree with you also because I, too, would be disappointed if I tried to help someone by giving them money and then they don't use it for what I intended to fulfill the need out of the kindness of my heart. Either way, it all depend on the giver and recipient, and how both react to the situation. Thanks for your insight!
@FaerieAne2003 (679)
• United States
31 Jul 08
What about the other way around? If I asked you for grocery money, how would you feel if I spent it on clothes? I agree, once a gift is given, it is no longer up to the giver to say what happens to it. But that doesn't lessen the disappointment.
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@teka44 (3420)
• Brazil
30 Jul 08
Hi JJ4Ever, I agree with you they have the right to spend the money however they want because each person have needs that are most important than anothers and it is different for each one. For some the most important is food; for others the most important is school bills and eat less; for others is pay the bills like eletricity and the rent. So if we give money to help them we don't have the right to say:"you will buy food with this money" if they need urgent to pay for eletricity or the rent. Who want to eat in the dark or in the street? We need food is right but you can eat in a friens's home or parent's home. Do you get my point? But if you know that this person spend the money in illegal things you never more give him/her a penny. It is my opinion.
Cheers.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
31 Jul 08
Hi, Teka! I understand you completely. I like your ideas because we have no way of knowing that person's needs. We're not them, so we can't judge exactly what they need that money for. It's good for us to know they have a need, give the money, and then see it work and be blessed by our sacrificial gift to them. We shouldn't become a dictator when it comes to giving away money. If they plan to spend illegally, then it's time to step in and have some boundaries on how the money should be spent or not give it away at all in the first place. I appreciate your response because I never thought about it that way. Take care, friend!
@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
1 Aug 08
I'd surely hope not! Ha, ha. You never know. I know how it feels to be in need of something and having that need fulfilled, but with insane stipulations. I felt like a fish in a bowl because I could see everything going on, but could do nothing about it. It takes on a whole new meaning when you've actually been in that spot. I can honestly tell you, I hated it! (LOL) As soon as I could, I got myself out of that predicament. It was kind that the people involved were trying to help me, but they were going about it in the completely wrong way. I'm thankful for what they did because I wouldn't be as well off as I am today if they hadn't given me an incentive to change my surroundings by making things frustrating for me. (LOL) Probably sounds weird and confusing, but it's a long story. Anyway, thanks for your comment. I appreciate it!
@dahlindy (13)
• United States
30 Jul 08
I think if you're willing to give a friend money when they're in need, you need to be open to allowing them to spend it on whatever they need it for. I would just hope that you asked enough questions before offering the money to know what they needed it for. I also wouldn't personally be giving it to anyone who would use the money for illegal means.
@rmuxagirl (7548)
• United States
31 Jul 08
I would think that if you knew that your friend was spending money for something illegal then you wouldn't give it to them correct? I wouldn't feel right about telling my friend how she should spend money I lend her. If she's in need she's in need and should use it for whatever she needs it for. It wouldn't be much of a gift that way would it?
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
31 Jul 08
If (and when because I have) I give money to a friend in need, the friend usually will either approach me to ask for something specific (groceries, gas, etc) and I will decide whether to provide it or not, or I will offer to give them money for groceries or gas or whatever it was they were struggling to get. I don't think you necessarily get to decide for them, but I would be very irritated to discover that I gave a friend money to buy food for her family and then found out she went to the bar, know what I mean? I want the truth when someone is asking me for help, if they are going to ask for money to go drinking with, I won't provide it.
In my humble opinion, money given to somebody who claims they are in need is different than a gift. When I give a gift to somebody, it is because I love them and want to do something special, give them a gift of an item, experience, money, what have you that is something they maybe wouldn't get for themselves or something they couldn't afford for themselves. It has no strings attached, is never something they have to pay back or return the favor, and it probably is not something they need, it's supposed to be something they might want and that I get to enjoy sharing or giving to them. I don't tell someone what to do with a gift or how to use it, but if someone asked for a favor, I think I could have specific guidelines on how my involvement in the favor is going to pan out.
I realize I might be in the minority with my opinion here, but I have been taken advantage of before and also paid somebody else's bills for them, thinking I would be reimbursed, and I never was. I had to learn from my mistakes there (and eating about $300).
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@property (453)
• United States
31 Jul 08
i think if you have a friend in need of something specific, and you know they lack good judgement, you should just purchase the item in need. Of course, if the money has already changed hands... the money was the gift... and how they spend it is ultimately up to them. i live by two big rules concerning money and friends.
1. never LOAN money to friends (i will GIVE money to a friend in need but i never expect it back, LOANING money can kill a friendship)
2. if i give money to a friend i never tell them how to spend it.
Just my opinion.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
28 Jan 09
Hi, Property! I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you for sharing your two rules with me. I live by those rules also. That's what they always say...if you're going to LOAN something to someone, don't expect it back. You probably never will get it back. I've loaned money to friends, but I've learned that it either never comes back to me or it comes back much later than I expected. Also, sometimes I get less back than what I lent out. I don't lend money anymore. Either I give it away or I don't even bother. Thanks for sharing your words of wisdom. I agree with your excellent opinion. Thanks for taking the time to respond!
@KellyMate (361)
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30 Jul 08
No because if they were in need, they have to spend it on whatever they need! Not what I tell them to spend it on lol!
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
31 Jul 08
What if their need and how you tell them to spend it match up? What if they need new socks, and you tell them to buy new socks? I have a coworker who has been given money before because the giver felt she needed it and felt sorry for my coworker. My coworker turned around and didn't spend the money on what the other person intended, which was to repair her car because she needed money for the repair. People can lie about their needs too. They'll say they need money for food or something normal like that just to get money. If it's a true friend, I'd certainly hope we'd know their needs better than that and be able to trust them to spend it on the right things! Thanks for your input.
@lijiahui (187)
• China
31 Jul 08
i wont tell them how to spend the money if i really lend them some, for that before my lending i think i have know enough about them~~~in other words ,i will only lend money to those who i trust and dont think they will use the money for useless things~~~
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@danrunsfast614 (1396)
• United States
31 Jul 08
I would always give conditions. If it is my money I want it going somewhere useful. I normally wouldn't even give money, but just buy what it is they needed. It means I know I won't get cheated.
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
28 Jan 09
I think that's probably the best way to go - to buy the specific item the person needs rather than giving money. Money is more universal and can be used pretty much any way possible. I normally don't give money either. A friend of mine from work actually learned the hard way on this one. She gave another coworker of ours $100 because she felt sorry for her. The other coworker had been going through hard times. She actually took the money to go out and party with her friends...and she wonders why she has no money! Another hard time hit, and this particular coworker had her purse and wallet stolen right out of her hands one night when she was trying to get in to her house. She came to my friend and told her sob story expecting to get more money since my friend had given her the $100 before. When my friend didn't give her any money, she stormed off quite angry with her. I don't the two have talked since...at least, not on personal things other than the necessities of work. It's really sad, isn't it? I'm not one to want to ruin friendships, so if my friends are in need, I'll spend money toward their direct need rather than give money. I think that's the best possible way to be a help to someone. Thanks for your insight, my friend. I appreciate your response.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
31 Jul 08
I think that you have the right to initially ask what the money is needed for..... This is a given seeing as you are forking it up! If you make the decision to give them the money then what they do with it from this point is their business. Personally I don't feel that you have the right to dictate where and what the money is spent on from that point. (Unless you are a Financial Adviser!) Worse case I guess is that if they misused the money given to them for something unsavory or for something other than what they told you it was for; at least you have the knowledge not to give them money again!
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
28 Jan 09
Hi, James! I think you covered all the bases in your response. I like the comment you added about a financial advisor too. That made me chuckle. I agree with you completely. You have the right to ask about a need (money, in this case) since you're planning on attempting to fulfill the monetary need. Hopefully the recipient would be honest, but if not, a valuable lesson would be quickly learned (not to lend anymore money - LOL)! Thanks.
@lily3753 (388)
• China
31 Jul 08
I am not a rich man ,so if I give money to a friend ,this will happen only he is really need money . So I think he must spend the money in where in need. So I wouldn't tell him .
Buy the way ,from this question ,I just wonder that, if I have only these dollers without anything else . what will I do? go to buy bread or go to have a gaming for more money?
@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
28 Jan 09
I like your response in that you consider where would be best to spend your money (or to just save it). I agree with what you said because my friends would also have to be in great need for me to give them money since I'm not rich either. Money takes times to earn, and I'm sure most of us can say we really don't have extra most of the time! I like that you consider trying to make more money by using the money you have. I think that's the way to go. Thanks for your response!
@magojordan (3252)
• Philippines
31 Jul 08
It depends, if he owed me money then I might ask where he spend it but if it is a gift I really wouldn't care. However if I know he is involved in illegal activities I might not give him money in the first place. Also I really don't have enoguh money to give to my friends
@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
28 Jan 09
I can say the same as you! If I had money to lend to my friends, I'd be in pretty good shape. I never lend out money, not because I'm trying to be rude or not a good friend, but because I never have any! (LOL) I never thought of if that person owed me money, though. You brought up a very good point. I probably wouldn't lend that person anymore money if they still owed me something. I heard of that once. Someone asked their friend for money when they owed them $20. The friend lent them $20, and they used the $20 to turn around a couple days later and try to pay them back with it! At least you're a kind person to give them a chance and ask what they spent the other money on (if they owed you something) to then consider if you'd lend them more money or not. I can tell you put a lot of thought into your response, and I appreciate it!
@vinayakgole (19)
• India
31 Jul 08
If I was to know my friend will be spending the money on illegal stuff I would take extra care never to lend him money. Money does not come easy and so does friendship. It is very important to help friends but it is also our responsibility to prevent them from doing something illegal. I would not tell friends how to use the money but I definitely would be careful whom I am lending the money to
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@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
28 Jan 09
Great answer! Not only would you care enough to consider lending money to your friend, but you would also NOT lend the money if you knew something illegal would take place because of it. You're definitely looking out for your friends! I would certainly hope that wouldn't be up to no good after you being so kind as to lend them money, but I love your thoughtfulness. I'm sure your friend can definitely appreciate what an honest person you are! Keep it up, my friend. Thanks for your response too!
@lyy284891086 (623)
• China
31 Jul 08
IN MY own opinion i think it's not necessary for me to told the person which i give money to how to spend the money ,i think is misesteem for them,once the borrowed ,maybe it they will take it in some way ..what we say maybe become redundant..it may hurt your friend
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@muneyuki04 (343)
• Philippines
31 Jul 08
if you give him a money,,,
give him some advice on how
to spend it.,,,
so that,,,
it's now a waste,,,
right?..
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