Dumping on mylot must be stopped.....I am taking a step....help me
By darksorrow
@darksorrow (4666)
Bangladesh
August 6, 2008 2:13pm CST
Now a days i am finding many newbies are dumping mylot with meaningless discussions. So i am going to complain to mylot to do about it.
Why i am saying this? Today i saw a newbie started about 6 or 7 discussions in one interest. If these things continue then many interesting topics go to second page which is most of the time get unanswered. Some people also say that other members are copying previous discussions.
So i thought i should complain mylot about this. Also if you have any complain you can write it here. The complain i am going to do is:
Many newbie are starting lots of discussions. So make a rule for this. Like we can copy & paste after we have done posting 500 posts. So put a limit on starting discussions. For example: unless you reach 500 posts you can not post more than 10 or 20 discussions.
This way i think many interesting discussions won't get unanswered. If you have any complain then write it here i will add them with my complain.
For my help at first write Complain: & then write the complain.
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21 responses
@liltunergirl (467)
• Canada
6 Aug 08
Complain: I am new on MyLot and I was expecting there to be more serious questions on here. I have noticed people asking some pretty dumb questions. I have posted a few questions and I really needed some help with them but no one answers them because they get pushed to another page so quickly that no one gets to see it. I didn't join MyLot to answer stupid questions. I joined to have real discussions with people and have my real questions answered.
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@CoffeeAnyone (3210)
• Canada
7 Aug 08
I don't know if it is true that people don't see the discussion because it moved to another page. I know that I will keep scrolling through the pages until I find a discussion I want to read and then hopefully reply to. I don't always feel I have something to say so I don't reply sometimes. I admit I do reply at least 95 percent of the time. I know there are others that also scroll through until they find discussions that interest them. So it is highly possible no one who is on line at that time want to read or reply to yours or my discussions. I actually have about 10 or more discussions that have no respones. It could be because they are just plain boring or it could be that they are to intimidating for some. I don't really know the reason but I do think people saw my discussion and simply decided it wasn't in their interest level to interact. So I would just assume people saw our discussion and weren't interested. So then you and I have to take the challenge to write something that makes me want to engage in discussion we have chosen to write about. I know it is a challenge as I have been frustrated by my lack of responses in the beginning to; even some times along the way. Actually I have had a couple of discussions that took off with more then twenty replies and I think wow that is great but why? It doesn't make sense they responed when I think this discussion is just so trivial. I have noticed silly topics get pages of comments and serious ones hardly nothing. So you just have to go with the flow. I wish you happy mylotting!
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@enihpesoj_zetroc (190)
• Philippines
7 Aug 08
very well said coffeeanyone,i completely agree with you..
i guess,we should not take it against them if we
don't get any response from the topic or discussion
we made,..they may not find it interesting even if we
think it is.don't let those thing upset ya
liltunergirl..,everyone are entitled of their own opinion dear,
let's learn to respect it and try to be more understanding with other.have a nice day to everyone...heaps dear..="^_^"=
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
6 Aug 08
well, you are right!! do whatever is right to do.. but for me, I don't mind about it. I will not spend my time on that stuff. I am here to participate and I will just ignore those newbies who are doing that. I don;t want people to get upset with me, and ruin their enjoyment. let them realize later when nobody will reply to their postings.. that's the best lesson they would learn..![](/Content/images/emotes/wink.gif)
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@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
7 Aug 08
Darksorrow, MYLOT cannot limit posting. There is a misunderstanding with the Newbies, they post alot of discussions under one Interest instead of utilizing the others. What we need to do as seniors and person who understand the guidelines of MYLOT is to inform them what they are doing wrong. Mooch and DFN were the ones who guide me when I just came here.
When we show these NEWBIES how MYLOT operate then they will understand and do the right thing. What MYLOT need are moderators who will see to it that all INTEREST are be done in the proper way. Other sites employ Moderators who see to it that the well being of the site is protected.![](/Content/images/emotes/happy.gif)
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
That's nice suggestion kerrinac. I have already submitted the complain today morning since i have started this discussion yesterday. I hope my lot notices your suggestion.
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
We who are here who knows that what can be consequences of doing that. If mylot limits postings then they also realize it over time. Not in the hard way. At first i also did that dumping. But over time i realized that dumping is not right in a hard way.
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
7 Aug 08
Umm, you do have a point there and yes, I noticed it too. In fact, I was also thinking that almost the entire pages are being filled up by one person, so how far back do we have to scroll? Are you trying to say that a person can post max 20 discussions till they reach 500 and then have unlimited access? Sounds good and this will help them to respond to others discussions and get themselves better acquainted. You know, most newbies just stick around for sometime, see how much they can make and then vanish into thin air.
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
Actually there is a better idea than mine. Check the response no.6 where ironmaiden gave a better choice for posting discussions.
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@CoffeeAnyone (3210)
• Canada
7 Aug 08
Congratulations darksorrow on starting a excellent discussion! It seems many are in support of regulations for newfies. I thought ironmaden had a really good scale for all mylotters to follow. I wonder what myLot management will choose to do about this topic after reading your discussion? I do think it would be a good idea for them to read your entire discussion to help them make a decision on how best to deal with this issues. There were great ideas and points brought out in this discussion. Good for you for starting it!
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
I also think ironmaiden had a good scale. In my opinion he had a better idea than me. I have already sent them a message. Lets see what happens.
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@joyadalia (1408)
• Philippines
7 Aug 08
I do not think that people are copying posts. It just so happens that there is no subcategory here in MyLot. And it is not possible to see similar discussions BEFORE posting, except if you search for keywords. I wouldn't read all discussions before starting one, either. So if MyLot can't find a way to make us see - before posting - similar threads, I don't think that you can complain about that. It's unfair for people who meant well in starting such a discussion only to find out that someone else had made a similar one months ago. You also said that posts get pushed back as new ones are posted, so it is not really fair to make a generalization that people are copying discussions.
I do agree that there are a lot who start meaningless discussions but I think that they were misled into thinking that they can post anything they want. I have complained about this one some time ago: That MyLot should have a way of posting some guidelines for everyone. I have recently joined a site similar to MyLot and a large banner can be seen on all pages, above the blank forms for posting discussions or threads: Read the Rules first before Posting. That will really help newbies around. Not all people have the same level of thinking as the majority of people here in MyLot may have, so they tend to just post and not read the rules. I know that you will say that is stupid but it is a reality that we must understand as well.
There are a lot of people that do not really know how to start a discussion and are just trying to start one to see how it will go. They may sound stupid to you but for the person trying hard to make a discussion that was big deal.
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
I agree with you what you said. Here is actually not a proper place for introducing a newbie & it also does not come in mind to introduce myself. But you misunderstood me. I am not against newbies.
The step i am talking about actually will help them & also us. I am not going to repeat myself. If you want an explanation then read other responses that i have made on this discussion.
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@joyadalia (1408)
• Philippines
7 Aug 08
Yes, I see that. And I was not really against your post but of the idea that somehow this will become anti-newbie. Thanks for clarifying that it is not so.
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@mrpsychotic (253)
• United States
7 Aug 08
I agree about the complainers.
I think the biggest factor is that their money is not updated right then.
I also think they have unreal expectations.
They expect a full time job.
My backing of mylot is that it is like a regular forum with money and not a gold mine.
You can't make a living but you can make money while having a fun time.
Thanks for reading and good luck.
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@djoyce71 (2511)
• Philippines
7 Aug 08
Don't you think you're being too harsh to newbies like us already? Somebody just invited me to sign-up because he told me that mylot is a good space where you could discuss interests, be it simple, light, serious or whatever. Mylot welcomed us newbies and I really liked it here because it helps me in a way. I get to express, communicate and improve my English.
I didn't know that there are limitations in the discussions. It was not stated in the guidelines.
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
There are no limitations in discussions for now. And one more thing I have no enmity with newbies. I am also not that old here. I am not going to repeat myself.But if you want an explanation of my statement then read the replays i made to others. It will clarify things as it was not in the detail section of my discussion.
It is for all of us.
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@kwenge (2487)
• Kenya
7 Aug 08
Thanks alot for highliting this because it has also been a big bother to me. You get a newbee with like 20 discussion and only 2 responses then you wonder what that person is upto and those discussions they start are just a one sentence thing and maybe a repeat of what had been posted here many times already e.g coke or pepsi?- I wish mylot could notify people on a repeated post like this SORRY THAT POST ALREADY EXISTS OR HAS BEEN POSTED BY ANOTHER MEMBERE. My other complain here is how to delete discussions with no responses.
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
I think what you said about the notify thing is not actually possible. mACHINES can not detect them & human brain is not capable of storing these much information.
But one thing is for sure that if what you said becomes possible then it would be great. I have already sent the complain to mylot. Hope they react what we are complaining.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
6 Aug 08
I hear you on this darksorrow
I don't think it has ever been as bad as it is recently
But instead of complaining here we can do it immediately using the '!' against each discussion and response and comment.
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
This is the quicker way i think. Because your way i have to go through every discussion & have to report each individual discussion. SO if i complain this way then they can take the right step.
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
7 Aug 08
My complaint is all the people who continue to post their referral links - it appears that some only joined here to do this. They obviously did not read the posting guidelines!
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
LOL. Everybody makes that mistake at the beginning. I was one of them. Then someone notified me about this.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
6 Aug 08
I'd have to agree but I would hate to be limited as to the amount of discussions I could post because I try to post quality topics. Everyone is not the same and why complain about it? Just don't respond to the topic if you don't like it. Then let em post "Why am I not getting any responses?"
They are not stopping me from getting mine so why stress it at all?
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
7 Aug 08
Maybe this is true. I have posted quite a few topics up here and never had a problem receiving quality responses since I've been here. Certain times I've expected more but I cannot really say I've noticed this problem. If in fact this is causing people's posts to be pushed to page two then I have to say it's a problem. When your topic gets a response it goes right back to the top though does it not? I don't know.
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
May be you have not noticed but for the dumping many good discussions go to the 2nd page & many people do not turn the 2nd page. So if there is a limit this would not happen.
And you said "Why i am not getting any responses?". If there is a limit then they won't need to ask this question.
So it is beneficial for for all of.
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@techgurl (451)
• Greece
6 Aug 08
Although I am one of the newbies, I totally agree with you. I have been a member of myLot for 5 months now, and have made only 40 posts. I don't have a lot of free time on my hands, and the free time that I choose to spend on myLot I do not want to waste it on searching for interesting discussions to respond to. Unfortunately that is what happens every single time I login. But its not only the newbies that do this. I find older members doing the same or similar things, and you'd expect them to know the TOS and discussion guidelines by hart. For example, last week I saw an older member posting affiliate links. Luckily probably that discussion got deleted and that person learned his lesson since today he responded on a discussion that posting such links is against the rules. And today a person with almost 800 posts and a rank of 10 started a totally pointless discussion, similar to myLot's example "How old are you", that has been asked just few days ago, plus few other times before. And this are just two of the numerous other offenders, newbies and oldies alike. Maybe instead of "Please be as descriptive as possible" on the left hand side when starting a discussion or responding to an existing one, it should say "Please refresh your memory of the TOS and guidelines".
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
L
L. Yes it can be a good improvement.
I am writing your line on bold so everyone can notice it.
Instead of "Please be as descriptive as possible" on the left hand side when starting a discussion or responding to an existing one, it should say "Please refresh your memory of the TOS and guidelines".
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@tonibabe (189)
•
6 Aug 08
i agree im still quite new and i think that when you first join you should respond to 100 discussions before you can start one then you have some idea whats out there and will help you think of some interesting discussions. there are loads of members on mylot so there are going to be quite afew discussions about the same things but i think people should try to be original
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@CoffeeAnyone (3210)
• Canada
7 Aug 08
I agree with you about the 100 posts. I am not sure how many posts I had before I wrote my first discussion but it was a long time. I still rather read and respond to discussions then start them.
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@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
7 Aug 08
i agree with you... i really admire you... i see that you are a newbie yourself as you only had reached your 500th posts milestone... but you already know the rules and making complains to the admin about other newbies who are breaking the rules here... well done... hopefully mylot will do something about this... take care and have a nice day...
@marababe (2503)
• Philippines
7 Aug 08
Nothing personal against newbies here but I noticed some discussions with just one-liners and usually just: "which do you like most? coke or pepsi?" and then when you read the whole thing you'll only get: "pepsi for me. how about you?". I mean, they could ask questions like that but at least be more descriptive about it, and not just stick with the coke and pepsi thing, or the pink and blue thing, those kind of questions. Also, I think the admin should delete discussions that are almost and the same, especially if the other 5 has zero responses, or just merge the whole discussion if the others get 2 replies to their topics, that way mylot will be "clean" of flooding discussions.
@gr8life (6251)
• Malaysia
7 Aug 08
Hello darksorrow,
I came across so many discussions from newbies who might not really know the rules here. I won't say that only newbies do that but most of them tend to post and post, thinking to earn more. In fact, MyLot actually offers more than just earnings here. You can find many good people out there though you never met them. Throughout a year after joining MyLot, I have so many newbies who 'went missing' - they might get banned from MyLot or maybe they started to feel tired for posting non-stop *smiles* Backstabbing among seniors too, seems quite normal here and as for me, I just follow a very simple rule - I am not going to be rude to others. But you don't feel worry, these newbies will definitely disappear later on. Anyway, I am happy to get to know more new people here as it means more online friends for me too. And for the complaint, I am out of it. Anyway, good luck with your mission, dear friend!
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@lronMaiden (993)
• Finland
6 Aug 08
I agree with you but maybe it should be more like this:
0 posts: 5 discussions
100 posts: 10 discussions
200 posts: 20 discussions
300 posts: 35 discussions
400 posts: 50 discussions
500 posts: 100 discussions
1000 posts: limitless amount of discussions.
Then there would also be more of those interesting discussions... And the copy-paste limit would be really good at 500. The most stupid thing is people asking how to add friends! One day I saw about 10 NEW discussions where people asked that. And I only checked new discussions about 20 times that day!!!
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@lronMaiden (993)
• Finland
14 Aug 08
Thanks for supporting my idea! Really appreciate it. And I checked what coffeeanyone wrote about my idea, responded to him too. And the reason why I came back to see check this discussion is that I noticed that you can't copy and paste before 500 posts :) Congratulations! Your idea got accepted!
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
That's a great idea ironmaiden. I will recommend mylot to review your post. It is better than my idea.
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
Hey ironmaiden you should look at some of the responses what Coffeanyone said about you. I think like me he also liked your idea. So i request you check them.
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@insulin (2479)
• Philippines
7 Aug 08
WEll I agree with that copying your own discussion is definetly not good but in the other side,maybe some of the newbies didn't notice that you have d same discussions i guess you will never notice because there are thousands of discussions here in my lot that you can't read just in one day...But if that what you think that you need to make a move about it,then we support you...:-0 have a nice day and god bless...:-0
@lisa0351 (303)
• United States
7 Aug 08
Wow, I have seen all these posts on newbies lately, and it kind of makes me feel like crap. I just came here the other day and started posting topics that I didn't see anyone else had posted. I just like to start conversation, I don't care about making money or anything else. I wish that instead to going above the newbies heads, you could just confront them. If I'm a culprit, I want to know. I am new, and yeah, I am excited about posting. I'm sure alot of other newbies are the same way. They will be a little post-happy until they get the hint. After a week if they are still doing it, thats another story. If you don't like their post ignore it, let them get the bugs worked out.
@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
7 Aug 08
Believe me if this rule implements then it will be good for newbies. I was one of the dumpers. And faced the consequences of it. So if the rule implements then they will be benefited not penalized.
And also i think 20 posts each day is enough for a mylotter.
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